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Jack 1000
Who will win this anticipated match-up and why?

Jack

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Calzaghe by (gulp) stoppage.

I might add that this win will do zero for Joe's legacy IMHO.
neophyte7
I predict a Jones TKO---- round 8... He will rock Joe and stop him... Calzaghe has not been hit as hard and as fast as he will on the 8th
Jack 1000
QUOTE(neophyte7 @ Nov 3 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]409200[/snapback]
I predict a Jones TKO---- round 8... He will rock Joe and stop him... Calzaghe has not been hit as hard and as fast as he will on the 8th


Interesting! Put your result in the poll Neophyte, and cast your vote. Everyone, when you comment, do the vote casting for the poll as well. I think the stats for this fight will be closer than expected.

Jack
BrutalBodyShots
Predictions on fights where a once great fighter is past prime are always closer than they should be. Just like Tyson, Holyfield, etc... too many people make their picks based on what they remember of the fighter being great. Even if they don't admit or realize they do it, they factor that into their predictions.

My initial pick for this fight was Calzaghe by decision, 115-112 give or take (Calzaghe possibly suffering a knockdown) but after really thinking about it I'm going with Calzaghe inside the distance, offically I'll say Calzaghe TKO11 Jones. I base this pick on Jones being past prime, having no legs, not being able to throw enough punches, and being in with lesser caliber 168-175 pound men over the last few years. I expect Jones to do worse in there against Calzaghe than Hopkins did in just about every way except for a few flashy fast shots here and there, but they won't be enough to win nearly enough rounds and certainly not the fight IMO.

King Eugene
Jones Win. I wont talk junk or predict how he will win. If he loses, I'll make no excuses and just take the L and all the negative comments but when he wins, I'll probably get banned from the board for too much Roy Jones Jr. talk and nuthugging! laugh.gif
Mean Mister Mustard
QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Nov 3 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]409207[/snapback]
Predictions on fights where a once great fighter is past prime are always closer than they should be. Just like Tyson, Holyfield, etc... too many people make their picks based on what they remember of the fighter being great. Even if they don't admit or realize they do it, they factor that into their predictions.

My initial pick for this fight was Calzaghe by decision, 115-112 give or take (Calzaghe possibly suffering a knockdown) but after really thinking about it I'm going with Calzaghe inside the distance, offically I'll say Calzaghe TKO11 Jones. I base this pick on Jones being past prime, having no legs, not being able to throw enough punches, and being in with lesser caliber 168-175 pound men over the last few years. I expect Jones to do worse in there against Calzaghe than Hopkins did in just about every way except for a few flashy fast shots here and there, but they won't be enough to win nearly enough rounds and certainly not the fight IMO.


I think if Jones feels he's in danger og getting stopped he might get on his bike and may make it to the end. Problem in that scenario is that Hopkins got by Calzaghe based on his tremendous dodging abilities, abilities that Jones at this stage doesn't have. Or maybe he does but he hasn't used them in his last 3 fights. Either way at this point he's no Hopkins in the defense department and he would have to do a lot of clinching.

If you are rooting for Jones you have to like his right hand, which is still straight and fast and very good against soutphaws. If he goes to the body early he might slow Calzaghe down. I've yet to see anyone go hard to his body all night.
JonnyBlaze
QUOTE(Mean Mister Mustard @ Nov 3 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]409216[/snapback]
I think if Jones feels he's in danger og getting stopped he might get on his bike and may make it to the end. Problem in that scenario is that Hopkins got by Calzaghe based on his tremendous dodging abilities, abilities that Jones at this stage doesn't have. Or maybe he does but he hasn't used them in his last 3 fights. Either way at this point he's no Hopkins in the defense department and he would have to do a lot of clinching.

If you are rooting for Jones you have to like his right hand, which is still straight and fast and very good against soutphaws. If he goes to the body early he might slow Calzaghe down. I've yet to see anyone go hard to his body all night.

Watch for his check left hooks too(if he brings that weapon to the table)..I could see Calzaghe getting dropped by one of those..Tito was getting dropped by shots he didn't see which is what Roy is best at throwing..His straight right is like B-Hops in the sense that he doesn't need a jab to get it out there and his speed allows him to throw just the straight right like that and not get countered by it..B-Hop's straight right is better when thrown short though and Roy's is better with distance on it which is a big difference..The shot that dropped Calzaghe was very short and impossible to see..For the most part Roy's punches are better on the outside and B-Hop is good with both but I really like his short shots more,they are soo effective and do sooo much more damage than any casual fan could ever know..It looks like nothing sometimes but it is far from that..I know all you guys know what I'm talking about and that's why I like talking boxing with you guys more than anyone I know except for maybe my trainers and a maybe 1 other dude at the gym..I wish more boxers actually watched the sport..It really bugs me when pros say they don't watch fights and just fight their fights..I don't see any basketball player ever saying they don't watch basketball..I really respect Tyson a lot for his true love for boxing and how much he'd watch it..
BrutalBodyShots
QUOTE(Mean Mister Mustard @ Nov 3 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]409216[/snapback]
I think if Jones feels he's in danger og getting stopped he might get on his bike and may make it to the end. Problem in that scenario is that Hopkins got by Calzaghe based on his tremendous dodging abilities, abilities that Jones at this stage doesn't have. Or maybe he does but he hasn't used them in his last 3 fights. Either way at this point he's no Hopkins in the defense department and he would have to do a lot of clinching.

If you are rooting for Jones you have to like his right hand, which is still straight and fast and very good against soutphaws. If he goes to the body early he might slow Calzaghe down. I've yet to see anyone go hard to his body all night.


I don't think Jones will have the legs to make it until the end. I agree that a sustained body attack by Jones on Calzaghe would be a great thing, but when was the last time Jones did any sustained body work? Sure he caught Johnson with some good body shots, and even hurt Tarver in their 3rd fight with hooks to the body but those shots were few and far between, not nearly "sustained" in the least. I expect Jones to land some killer body shots on Joe, but not nearly enough to slow Calzaghe's output to a level where Jones will win enough rounds.

Imperius3
Jones will put up a spirited effort and will be competitive early on. Calzaghe will fight with that blistering pace though, and he will keep it up from beginning to end. He's gonna outpoint Jones in the later rounds, which is gonna seal the deal. Hopkins landed enough counters to beat Calzaghe...but I don't trust Roy's mentality, and I think he will be gunshy.

Calzaghe by decision, 8-4.
D-MARV
Roy Jones Shocks the world via Split decision!!!!!!

I think the Cleaner harder shots will be landed and scored in favor of Junior !
The Original MrFactor
I think this will look alot like Tarver/Jones 1. Cal will back Jones up on the ropes and wail away, while Jones covers up. Cal will step off the gas and Jones will throw 1 or two shots. repeat this over 12 rounds and Joe Calzaghe will walk away with a unanimous decision. We will all walk away pissed at Jones for not fighting. This could truly be a legacy killer for Jones. If he doesnt man up and fight this guy, he's lost all my respect as a fan. I dont want to see Jones cover up and cower against the ropes...
salvador
Nobody's been harder on Roy than I have, but the thing is that he still is the most dangerous fighter Calzaghe's ever faced.

Roy is the biggest and strongest guy Calzaghe's ever faced (at least for the first 6 rounds) and he's easily the most coordinated guy Calzaghe's ever faced. And Calzaghe is one of the weaker punchers Roy has faced. I think Roy is going to match his speed (at least for the first 6 rounds) and he'll definitely land some nice counters - if he's willing to stay in the pocket.

I can't get Byron Mitchell's knockdown of Calzaghe out of my mind. And I think if Calzaghe comes in throwing pitty-pat combinations, Roy's going to land something meaningful.

Both these guys are chinny.

I've got $100 on Roy at +260 and $50 on the fight not going the distance at +200.

Mean Mister Mustard
QUOTE(salvador @ Nov 4 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]409299[/snapback]
Nobody's been harder on Roy than I have, but the thing is that he still is the most dangerous fighter Calzaghe's ever faced.

Roy is the biggest and strongest guy Calzaghe's ever faced (at least for the first 6 rounds) and he's easily the most coordinated guy Calzaghe's ever faced. And Calzaghe is one of the weaker punchers Roy has faced. I think Roy is going to match his speed (at least for the first 6 rounds) and he'll definitely land some nice counters - if he's willing to stay in the pocket.

I can't get Byron Mitchell's knockdown of Calzaghe out of my mind. And I think if Calzaghe comes in throwing pitty-pat combinations, Roy's going to land something meaningful.

Both these guys are chinny.

I've got $100 on Roy at +260 and $50 on the fight not going the distance at +200.


That brings up the question of who can hurt who the most. I think we all agree that JOnes is the bigger puncher, but the guy leaves himself open a lot and you never know, Calzaghe could hurt him. But if someone goes down I'm expecting Jones to be the one sending Zaghe to the canvas.
EpTXCHAMP
I dnt think calz has the power to really make jones respect him! therefore I dont see roy covering up all night like he did against tarver. good fight but going with roy by UD
ROLL DEEP
QUOTE(The Original MrFactor @ Nov 4 2008, 01:33 AM) [snapback]409272[/snapback]
I think this will look alot like Tarver/Jones 1. Cal will back Jones up on the ropes and wail away, while Jones covers up. Cal will step off the gas and Jones will throw 1 or two shots. repeat this over 12 rounds and Joe Calzaghe will walk away with a unanimous decision. We will all walk away pissed at Jones for not fighting. This could truly be a legacy killer for Jones. If he doesnt man up and fight this guy, he's lost all my respect as a fan. I dont want to see Jones cover up and cower against the ropes...



Thats how I see the fight going.


I doubt Jones is going to man up and try to back Calzaghe up.



I really don't know who to root for. Calzaghe is closer to home than Jones, but Jones is one of my all-time favourites. I'd like for Jones to win this big fight to hopefully help erase the Tarver loss, but I'm a fan of Calzaghe and what a way to finish his career.....but I think I may be siding with Jones......even though I think Calzaghe will win via UD.
D-MARV
I disagree with most...
I think Roy is going to go balls out! He knows this is his last "Money" fight unless he wins. I see Roy stealing alot of the early rounds with his flashy style! I "HOPE" his legs are strong enough to hold up! Calzaghe will own the final rounds!

I do agree that this can play out like the first Tarver fight! But even in that fight Roy did enough to squeek out the victory... Anyhow, I anticipate a close fight either way!
JonnyBlaze
Calzaghe is not chinny..
neophyte7
looked quite chinny early against Hopkins... he may get the KTFO
ROLL DEEP
Calzaghe's not what you call weak chinned....but he hasn't got an amazing chin.


He gets floored, but never seems in really bad trouble. They're like flash knockdowns.




Jones does have the speed and the accuracy to plant a good few counters on Joe, which I'm sure he will do, but I doubt he'll stop Calzaghe.

Jones hasn't stopped anyone in YEARS and Calzaghe's never been stopped.
salvador
QUOTE(JonnyBlaze @ Nov 4 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]409340[/snapback]
Calzaghe is not chinny..


He almost got ko'd by Byron Mitchell. And I think that the knockdown in the first round of the Hopkins fight was the first knockdown Hopkins has scored since DLH.

Maybe chinny isn't the word, but both of those knockdowns were early in fights against guys with far less power and speed than Jones.
Box in Hand
QUOTE(damarvelous1 @ Nov 3 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]409271[/snapback]
Roy Jones Shocks the world via Split decision!!!!!!

I think the Cleaner harder shots will be landed and scored in favor of Junior !



Amen, someone has some sense. Roy isn't finished yet. His 60% is still better than a whole lot of boxers 100%.
ROLL DEEP
QUOTE(Box in Hand @ Nov 5 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]409430[/snapback]
Amen, someone has some sense. Roy isn't finished yet. His 60% is still better than a whole lot of boxers 100%.



But he's only 80% of what a 100% Calzaghe is, so he's 20% worse laugh.gif
Al Hata

I'll be rooting for Jones but I know I'll end up dissapointed just like after Tarver/Jones 3.

Fuck it, I got Jones by one punch KO in the 3rd!

Lil-lightsout
QUOTE(salvador @ Nov 5 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]409412[/snapback]
He almost got ko'd by Byron Mitchell. And I think that the knockdown in the first round of the Hopkins fight was the first knockdown Hopkins has scored since DLH.

Maybe chinny isn't the word, but both of those knockdowns were early in fights against guys with far less power and speed than Jones.


The Mitchell shot was a BIG shot, Hopkins was a flash knockdown. I thought some other lesser known fighter dropped him also in one of his title defences? But yeah, his chin definately did not come from the mold of Antonio Margarito. So there is a chance of him getting hurt.

Wow... I can not believe all the guys picking Jones!!! Deep down, I truly expect Joe to win a decision or possibly a late stoppage. But this other side of me sees Jones having some advantages on his side.
1) He is probably faster than Joe, and Joe has never seen speed like his before.
2) No pressure on Roy, all is on Joe.
3) Roy saw how Hopkins dropped him early, he probably knows with his speed he could do the same, but just finish him off.
4) Calzage is very sloppy in there and always leaves himself open, no one as of yet has fully capitalized on that, I think maybe if Roy lets his hands go more, he counterpunch the fuck out of slapper.
5) Joe wants to sit on his punches more and go for the KO for this fight, well that plays into Roy's hands because Roy should be able to take more chances and go for a KO.
6) Roy will have the crowd on his side, that might motivate him during the fight.

So my official prediction, though not a smart one, will be to go with RJ by 9th round stoppage as Roy is reigning punches on a hurt defenseless Joe as the ref steps in to stop the fight.
rusty_trombone
I'm definitely rooting for Jones. I've always loved watching him fight, he was damn entertaining. I would also like to see what kind of shit Fitz will come up with if Jones wins. I've always like Joe also, so this fight is kind of a win-win for me.
rusty_trombone
QUOTE(Fitz @ Nov 5 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]409475[/snapback]
What do you mean what type of shit I come up with? As in excuses? If Jones wins a clear decision, credit to him. Only chance I give him if he lands a shot similar to what Tarver landed on him.

No not excuses, like funny shit to make fun of him. I don't actually pay attention to your analysis of Roy Jones, just the funny hate stuff.
BrutalBodyShots
QUOTE(salvador @ Nov 5 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]409412[/snapback]
He almost got ko'd by Byron Mitchell. And I think that the knockdown in the first round of the Hopkins fight was the first knockdown Hopkins has scored since DLH.

Maybe chinny isn't the word, but both of those knockdowns were early in fights against guys with far less power and speed than Jones.


I don't think there's anything wrong with Calzaghe's chin. Lots of guys get caught early before they get warmed up and go down. Later in the fight however they tend to take shots better. Trinidad is a good example. The guy was knocked down early in TONS of his fights, but went on to show that he can take BOMBS from hard punchers and not get stopped. It would be in Jones' best interest to try and make something happen big early while Calzaghe is most vulnerable. If it gets past 3-4 rounds I think Jones' chances of stopping Calzaghe are FAR less.

rusty_trombone
QUOTE(Fitz @ Nov 5 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]409478[/snapback]
Well Stevenski is the main man. He is heaps more funny regarding RJJ, ahha.

All you aussies look alike
King Eugene
I haven't been on here since last week but I find it some of the post quite interesting. Either there are more RJJ fans on here than I expected or there is a lot of Hate for Calzaghe.

I'm sticking to my initial post though. If Jones loses I'll make no excuses for another grown man. I'll take in all the insults and negative comments as they come but IF he WINS...I'm liable to get banned for a couple of weeks for all the shit talking, nutt hugging, and for constantly bringing RJJ into every post topic possible. I swear I will not shut up and good ol Stevenski and Fitz will really have another reason to hate Jones and his fans.

I'm not going to give a break down on how I think he will win or any other predictions of how the fight will go down. As long as he wins its good enough for me.


Nov. 8th we shall see!
STEVENSKI
OK i can deal with reality & fantasy in the same post.

Fantasy finish first up

After a gruelling back & forth battle with Roy getting pimp slapped repeatedly & Joe tasting some big shots both fighters are exhausted & puffy round the eyes with blood streaming from Roy's nose. At the end of the 11'th they exchange punches but Roy is starting to take a calculated slapdown now. One final combo & Roy crumples to the canvas motionless hitting his head heavily on the bottom rope.

There is no way he is getting up from this one Jones is DONE! Joe raises his hands in the air but has a strange look on his face. Joe collapses to the canvas & it looks like he is having some kind of seizure due to his thrashing spasms. Doctors are called for both parties but it is too little too late. Joe Calzaghe is finished & has turned blue. He has had a heart attack & finally proved to everyone that he does have a heart but as suspected it is weak as piss.

Roy is escorted from the ring supported by the medical fraternity jabbering about past imagined glories. On teh way to the hospital for observation & assesment by the mental health professionals the ambulance is hit by a B double semi trailer. Roy dies instantly safe in the knowledge that he is P4P in his own mind.

What a thrilling finish!

Back to reality.

Jones shows flashes of former brilliance landing hard single counters but is backed up to the ropes for the majority of the fight. Calzaghe flails away with his slaps & does more than enough to win a comfortable decision 116-112 117-111 118-110.
JonnyBlaze
QUOTE(Fitz @ Nov 5 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]409528[/snapback]
I don't know why you would talk shit. You are simply guessing and hoping you are right. Even now you don't know why you are picking Jones, and you are yet to give a reason on to why Jones will win.
All you have been saying is "Nov 8th we shall see". So I wouldn't be taking shit from you, lol. You have no idea how or why Jones will win, all you have is hope. I still can't believe you are the one that called me a Hopkins nuthugger at one time, lol.

I gave reasons about how Jones could win..I am not going to post who I think will win though..We are going to see a different Calzaghe,I'd put money on it..Roy does have advantages but for the most part disadvantages..
BrutalBodyShots
QUOTE(JonnyBlaze @ Nov 5 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]409536[/snapback]
I gave reasons about how Jones could win..I am not going to post who I think will win though..


Um... why? lol
The CEO
First of all....I can't stand BOTH of these fighters....they're both more bullshit than substance to me.....

I've hated Jones more than Calzaghe traditionally...since the focus was on him, and Calzaghe was nothing more than a protected homeboy fighting bums the majority of his career...but after hearing Calzaghe's latest comments, I want him to go to sleep....but I probably won't get what I want...

I'm seeing him stopping Jones in less than 10....where the ref steps in on a flurry.


The really disgusting aspect about this fight is the crazy shit Joe's gonna talk afterwards....as if it was meaningful and gives him the right to call himself one of The Greats....

That being said...I'm not counting Roy COMPLETELY out...there IS a chance he'll put some strong combos together early and flatten Calzaghe...something like a 10, 20% chance...

and you can bet your bottom dollar...that if Jones were to somehow win.....the shit HE will talk will make Mayweather look humble...

King Eugene
QUOTE(Fitz @ Nov 5 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]409528[/snapback]
I don't know why you would talk shit. You are simply guessing and hoping you are right. Even now you don't know why you are picking Jones, and you are yet to give a reason on to why Jones will win.
All you have been saying is "Nov 8th we shall see". So I wouldn't be taking shit from you, lol. You have no idea how or why Jones will win, all you have is hope. I still can't believe you are the one that called me a Hopkins nuthugger at one time, lol.

Hopkins Nutthugger...yea it was a bit overboard. I'll admit.

But just for you, I say he'll win by decision but I wont count out a knockout!

AND YES I HOPE HE WINS!!!

And I'll tell you why...
1. I dont think his legs are as gone as most people say they are. People say he looked stiff in the workouts running but how many boxers do you know take long strides when they jog? Hell look at Hopkins run, he look like nothing but his ankles move. Plus call it what you want but his ass sure was moving them legs in that Tarver 3 fight.

2. Jones dont have the best chin but he is far from chinny. Ruiz landed some clean shots, not the cleanest but clean. Tarver nor Johnson throws Cotton balls. Clinton Woods a long with a lot of other good punchers have landed some clean shots on Jones and he didnt budge. Dont get me wrong, Tarver and Johnson layed him smooth out but if you call him chinny just cause he got knocked out twice, then a lot of other fighters such as chico, castillio, and a few others you should put right along in that category.

3. People say his constant lying on the ropes is his biggest problem. To some extent I'll agree cause Tarver punished him there as well at Johnson and thats what Calzaghe probably wants him to do as well just so he can slap shots and rack up on points. I've never liked seeing him lay on the ropes just to get the other fighter to open up so he can counter. He tried it with Trinidad but after Trinidad ate a couple of straight rights he would go back in there anymore. But truth be told the only fighters that didnt work against was Tarver and Johnson. And I dont care what you say, Calzaghe will not hit as hard as those two.

Yea ok, you can claim he wont finish fighters anymore which I agree. He needs to bring that killer instinct back but we'll see if he does. I think after Calzaghe gets stunned from a few counter hooks and straight rights he wont be throwing as many punches. Roy knows its his last shot and he wont be as conservative especially after he finds out Joe cant hurt him.

This is why I'm going for Jones by UD and possible early stoppage.
But again I say, Nov. 8th we shall see. No excuses.
JonnyBlaze
QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Nov 5 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]409541[/snapback]
Um... why? lol

Check out the other Jones/Calzaghe thread..I don't wanna post it all over again..Where is Jack 1000 when we need him..There have been multiple threads of the same topic..I remember it was named Jones/Calzaghe not Calzaghe sloppy or the one about Jones..

One point though is Calzaghe keeps his hands low and Roy can catch him before he brings em up because of his speed..
JonnyBlaze
Wait it was this thread..Check out the first page..I know there was another thread too that I posted some advantages on but lost track of it..There are 5 threads dealing with Roy or Calzaghe or both right now so who knows..
BrutalBodyShots
I still maintain that Johnson doesn't hit much harder than Calzaghe. Maybe a cunt hair, but that's about it. I think just because Calzaghe has a tendency to slap with his punches and Johnson throws more textbook shots it's easy to say Johnson hits harder, but if you look at both guys history that doesn't seem to be the case. They are also pretty close in size to one another. People forget that Calzaghe started his career fighting at a higher weight than Johnson did (they are also the same height I believe) it's just that Johnson has moved up twice where Calzaghe has only once. Anyhow both guys aren't one punch KO bangers, or even 2-3 punch KO guys... they accumulate damage over the course of a fight. Shit both guys even have the same # of KO's in basically the same # of fights. My whole point is that if Johnson was able to pile up damage and get Jones out of there, I see no reason that Calzaghe couldn't do the same to a shopworn Jones 4 years later that's going to be 40 in 2 months.

buford54
I think Calzaghe could get a late KO...but more because of Roy's mental fragility then because of any power.
I think Joe CAN punch as hard as Johnson, but he doesn't. He'd rather thow 1,000 slaps then 300 hard shots because the slaps keep the opponent on the defensive and off balance.
Johnson also relies heavily on activity and pressure, but he puts a little more umph into his punches then Joe does.

Roy has pretty much admitted that he doesn't strategize on how to win fights. He always referred to himself like a mechanic. He diagnoses the other guy in the ring...not before hand.
In the past, his speed and reflexes allowed him to do that. Not anymore.
He needs to have a plan. When you don't have a plan, and the other guy has you figured out, you start to feel defeated and hopeles.
That's where Joe has a chance for a stoppage. If Roy is having no success and breaks mentally, which is entirely possible.
D-MARV
Roy Jones Jr Vs Joe Calzaghe comes down to one issue... Can Roy gain Calzaghe's respect early?

Roy Jones Jr. still possess fast hands and beautiful combinations. Joe Calzaghe has laser quick hands as well but there is one flaw in Joe's game in which Roy can exploit... and that his Joe tendency to leave himself open. Roy has to hit Joe with something significant early in the fight. Roy can't just do this one time either, he has to do it often. Joe has shown in the past, that he can be hit and stunned but he always shakes it off and come back strong! Roy will have to keep him honest throughout to have any shot at winning this fight!

Many say that Roy's legs are gone, and this may be true, but his biggest problem right now is confidence. Does Roy believe he can win this fight? When Roy fights with confidence he is at the top of his game. Round 5 of his third fight with Tarver was the last time I seen him fight with confidence. (I don't count his last 3 fights because they posed no real threat) Roy has to go in there and let his hands go. If he does, I can guarantee that he will catch Joe C with some really good shots! Another key to the fight is Roy has to keep the fight in the center of the ring as much as possible! He can not back off into the ropes and let Joe C fire away! He will get battered and possibly stopped if he allows this to happen!

Joe on the other hand has to just fight his fight. Joe's style would have given a "prime" Roy fits in the ring! All he has to do is dictate the pace of the fight and keep backing Roy up. One thing that I noticed in an interview with Calzaghe was he mentioned that he needed to punch harder! I disagree. Joe shouldn't change any part of his game. I would be a bit more alert of the 1 punch wonder but I would still let my hands fly, slaps and all. If he sits down on his punches he will lose quickness and exert alot more energy! this will be an advantage to Roy.

Final Prediction

I see Roy coming out the gates smoking and even dropping Joe C. in the early going. Roy will do a good job of staying off the ropes and keeping the fight in the center of the ring. As the rounds past, Roy starts to slow down and Joe picks up the pace! Joe will back Roy into the ropes and let his hands fly! Joe will control the middle rounds. As we get into the championship rounds both men will begin to trade shots. Turning into a unexpected war both men trade until the final bell! The crowd goes wild and both men are celebrated for putting on a wonderful performance. At the end of the fight the cards are read:

114-113, 114-113, 112-115 to the winner by split decision...



ROY JONES JUUUNNNNIIIIOOOOORRRRRR!
Mean Mister Mustard
QUOTE(damarvelous1 @ Nov 6 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]409602[/snapback]
Roy Jones Jr Vs Joe Calzaghe comes down to one issue... Can Roy gain Calzaghe's respect early?

Roy Jones Jr. still possess fast hands and beautiful combinations. Joe Calzaghe has laser quick hands as well but there is one flaw in Joe's game in which Roy can exploit... and that his Joe tendency to leave himself open. Roy has to hit Joe with something significant early in the fight. Roy can't just do this one time either, he has to do it often. Joe has shown in the past, that he can be hit and stunned but he always shakes it off and come back strong! Roy will have to keep him honest throughout to have any shot at winning this fight!

Many say that Roy's legs are gone, and this may be true, but his biggest problem right now is confidence. Does Roy believe he can win this fight? When Roy fights with confidence he is at the top of his game. Round 5 of his third fight with Tarver was the last time I seen him fight with confidence. (I don't count his last 3 fights because they posed no real threat) Roy has to go in there and let his hands go. If he does, I can guarantee that he will catch Joe C with some really good shots! Another key to the fight is Roy has to keep the fight in the center of the ring as much as possible! He can not back off into the ropes and let Joe C fire away! He will get battered and possibly stopped if he allows this to happen!

Joe on the other hand has to just fight his fight. Joe's style would have given a "prime" Roy fits in the ring! All he has to do is dictate the pace of the fight and keep backing Roy up. One thing that I noticed in an interview with Calzaghe was he mentioned that he needed to punch harder! I disagree. Joe shouldn't change any part of his game. I would be a bit more alert of the 1 punch wonder but I would still let my hands fly, slaps and all. If he sits down on his punches he will lose quickness and exert alot more energy! this will be an advantage to Roy.

Final Prediction

I see Roy coming out the gates smoking and even dropping Joe C. in the early going. Roy will do a good job of staying off the ropes and keeping the fight in the center of the ring. As the rounds past, Roy starts to slow down and Joe picks up the pace! Joe will back Roy into the ropes and let his hands fly! Joe will control the middle rounds. As we get into the championship rounds both men will begin to trade shots. Turning into a unexpected war both men trade until the final bell! The crowd goes wild and both men are celebrated for putting on a wonderful performance. At the end of the fight the cards are read:

114-113, 114-113, 112-115 to the winner by split decision...
ROY JONES JUUUNNNNIIIIOOOOORRRRRR!


Yes, keeping the fight in the center of the ring is crucial for Jones. I wonder however if he can do it. Hopkins said the same thing before he fought Calzaghe and just look at how many times he touched the ropes. Calzaghe seems to be able to back up anyone at will. For Jones to stopt that he needs to hurt him and BAD. Jones is a decent puncher and if he keeps firing enough Calzaghe is going to feel those punches particularly to the body. Jones has to be active, he won't be able to throw as many shots as Calzaghe, that much is obvious but that doesn't mean he should stay in a shell like Kessler did in the middle rounds of his fight. Calzaghe is going to be moving his hands all night and you can either cover up and survive or punch back.


Mean Mister Mustard
Another thing is this. The more you run away from Zaghe the more he chases you, like with an angry dog you must stand your ground and go foward. Not sure if Jones can.

I'm also expecting lots of people to pick Jones based on how he looks at the weigh-in.
STEVENSKI
Man I can't believe that no one enjoyed my thrilling account of the fantasy fight. That was my finest work I think.
King Eugene
Two more days and its put up or shut up for Jones and I think he'll PUT UP!!!
The CEO
Hey, King...you know if Jones wins this...and you go around gloatin' and actin' a fool...we're gonna kill you.

You know that, right?
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE(STEVENSKI @ Nov 6 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]409659[/snapback]
Man I can't believe that no one enjoyed my thrilling account of the fantasy fight. That was my finest work I think.


Steve I liked it but considering some of your past work and knowing how strong your hatred is for these two I think you can do better!

I think in this last piece you were only skimming the surface of your hatred.

I preferred the one were you had the ring collapsing on both of them leaving them both simultaneously crippled. This is the more the direction I think you should head in.
BrutalBodyShots
So for the record I just laid down my bets on the fight. Went with $300 on Calzaghe by stoppage to win $900. Threw $10 on Jones by KO at 50-1 odds in rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4 for a $500 payout. So if Jones catches lightning in a bottle I win $500 minus $300 = $200. Calzaghe stops Jones like I think he can, I win $900 minus $40 for a $860 night. Anything else, I'm out the $340.

Anyone else lay out cash? If so what did you go with?

King Eugene
QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Nov 6 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]409700[/snapback]
Hey, King...you know if Jones wins this...and you go around gloatin' and actin' a fool...we're gonna kill you.

You know that, right?

LMAO...I know cause if he wins yall are going to talk so much trash I'm a either want to kill somebody or take a leave for a few months til the lost dies down.
WindyCityP
Jones KO 12
King Eugene
QUOTE(WindyCityP @ Nov 7 2008, 12:32 AM) [snapback]409713[/snapback]
Jones KO 12

I like this guy already.
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