I talk a bunch of shit about Margarito. I mention how slow he looks, how wide his punches are, but that man can fight. He never stops coming and when Shane slows down, Margarito will keep coming and that will be the difference. I'll be pulling for Shane all the way.

I just can't see Shane pulling this off...I like both guys, but I really liked Marg ever since the Lujan fight. I like Marg by stoppage in the 8th or 9th

Back to the same ol work schedule. Work, workout between jobs, and work some more. My only free time is on the weekends and I spend most of that time watching fights.

Mayorga doesn't stop coming at you either.

Sounds good..

Very Different.

I'm thinking it'll look like The Mayweather-Baldomir fight but a bit more competitive. I know Mosley sometimes tend to fight his opponents fight but but I think with Naz in his corner he'll stay on his bike, counter, and throw combinations to win a UD.

Does Mosley even have a bike? He is the WW equivalent to Evander Holyfield. he does alot of little things well and he's very tough. He cant get out of the way of punches though and is prone to get into a slugfest, which he will lose badly.

If he does I wont be suprised and if he is smart he will. I think Naz will have a huge impact in the gameplan against Marg. Of course he didn't look good against Mayo but there have been plenty of fighters who looked totally different in back to back fights.

You are right. Hopkins/Pavlik and Hopkins/Calzaghe comes to mind. The question is, was it due to the opponents contrasting styles or did this the boxer make changes. I dont see Naz changing Mosley up all that much. Naz may have the perfect game plan for Margarito, but Mosley aint gonna follow it. Once the punches start coming, he will revert back to his usual self. Mosely isnt gonna start whacking away from different angles or using an effective jab. You cant teach an old dog new tricks. Thats just not Mosley. Mosley had a tough time with Mayorga. Mayorga didnt throw nearly as many punches as Tony will.

One thing I think we all can agree on is lots of leather will fly in this one. I think we'll be in for a great fight. Mosley will go down swinging for sure...

Its going to be a heck of a fight and very so much worth watching. If it goes to the cards Mosley gets the nod but if it ends early its cause Mosley was stopped.

When's the last time that Mosley has OUTBOXED someone for the W?

Margarito by Split Decision,

I think Mosley will shock a lot of people and be at the very best he can be for this last hurrah. Margarito will be over-confident thinking that Shane will be like Forrest, but that won't be the case here. I actually had Shane beating Cotto by one point. I can certainly accept a one-point win for Shane to a two-point win for Cotto, but those scores were a little too wide.

But remember, I am going with Shane at his best for this fight against the odds here for my pick. A Mosley who is just "there" will get stopped in the late rounds. Shane at his best will not win, but could make it close on the cards. I haven't gone for an underdog in a big fight for a long time, so it will be interesting to see the odds.

Jack

...Wagering opened last month on-line : The Tornado dropped -600 to -500 & Sugar dropped +400 to +300 (3-1) ... Mexicans will hammer the Tornado late on U.S. sites, shop the net before you donate . Age & lack of serious power is the problem .... you will get good final odds ... good luck . (personally, I have seen bigger upsets)

I think that Shane should watch round 2 of his first Forrest fight over & over because he will be feeling like that for lengthy periods in this fight I reckon.

Marg by brutal stoppage ending Shane's career. Shane will be remembered as a guy who ducked no one.

Shane decisions him.

Why is this still a thread? This fight is a foregone conclusion, Mosley wins laughably and margarito retreats back into the forest.

I'll be hoping that Mosley wins..The saying "you're only as good as your last fight" shouldn't be used here even though a lot want to use it..I even used it by saying he'd get destroyed by Margarito if he fights that fight..If he does it the "sugar" way,he should come out with the decision..Mosley needs to box this one,if he tries to fight like he tried to with Mayorga only bad things will happen..He should of been talkin with DLH the whole camp when training for Mayorga..

Not hardly. Margarito isn't in the same league as Forrest. Not even close...

The Viper whacked Mosely twice (2/12 rd. UD's) & El Matador TKO'd the Viper in 3 & out-pointed him in the rematch (2003) ... Sugar KO'd Mayorga in 12 ... but he went the distance w/ two powder-puffs ( Stinky Winky twice & Collazo) .... Cintron nailed the Tornado on the dimple a few times in the rematch & Antonio smiled & walked him down .... Can you imagine the Tornado returning to Tijuana having lost to Mosely ..... Margarito -650 ...bank it bro !

There's going to be a whole lot of broke Mexicans come the 25th......

LOL!

I noticed that the poster did indicate multiple choice responses in his poll. I was going to change it back to one choice, but that wouldn't change the pollsters who already picked BOTH fighters, so I left it as is. For future polls, it's best NOT to check the multiple-choice answer box. Our purpose here is to have a quality objective poll that accurately reflects the views of the Fight Hype Community. Future voters should pick ONE winner.

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If this happens, Shane also should be remembered as the guy who won 1 big fight in his entire career...DLH 1.
Other than that, he got a gift in DLH 2 (has since admitted steroid use) and lost to Forrest twice, Winky twice, Cotto, Margarito and was on his way to losing to Raul Marquez until that headbutt.

So they were in the 3rd round and it was a foregone conclusion that Marquez was going to win this fight??? Whatever.

Yeah that's not true whatsoever.

I for one think this is going to be a close fight. Margarito's Homer Simpson style isn't going to work that well against Mosley like it did against Cotto. Mosley has a better chin and better stamina than Cotto. IMO, Mosley also fought on even terms with Cotto in their respective bout. Margarito has been knocked down before and if memory serves me correctly, body shots were responsible for the knockdowns. Mosley's right hand to the body will be a very valuable punch in this fight. Mosley might be the only fighter we've seen in a long time who can really assault Margarito's body. Mosley needs to fight smart though. He should NOT try to fight fire with fire in this fight, or it might be his downfall.

With all that being said, I can't forget how old Mosley looked against Mayorga. I know Mosley will be fighting at his better weight in this fight, but there is still no reason why Mosley should've struggled against Mayorga like that. Mosley is not in his prime anymore, and that's the main reason why I favor Margarito in this fight. Mosley is up against a machine. Margarito is a steel-chinned, relentless, tireless fighter, who swings hard and keeps coming. I don't think Mosley can keep up with him at this stage in the game, especially since he doesn't throw combos like he used to. Margarito's size is going to be a problem for Mosley also. I can picture Mosley starting off well, but Margarito picking up the pace from Round 6 onwards and winning a close decision.

Once again, I think this will be a close fight. Margarito is not hard to hit, and Mosley can take more punishment than Cotto can. Mosley has a lot of heart, and he's not going down like a bitch. I'll be rooting for Mosley, but Margarito's workrate is going to be hard to overcome. I'd like to see Shane go out on a good note even if that's simply fighting his heart out.

Margarito by a close decision.

Easy work for Mosley. Margarito should change his nickname to "El Sasquatcho", maybe he can tell us when his species decided against walking on all fours and decided to be bipedal. (I bet Margarito still uses all fours at home though)

LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Yousa young fool!!! Always funny though!!!

That's another RT Gem alright...I can totally see Margarito makin' his way around his living room on all fours...lol

I have this sneaky suspicion that Shane is going to pull it off. The last time we saw Margs was against Cotto and I believe he took a lot of punishment, himself. When was the last time we saw Shane in a brutal fight? Brother Naz has been a fountain of youth for B-Hops, who is to say he won't do the same for Shane? B-Hops neutralized everything Pavlik, a relentless power puncher, with quickness, movement and distance. I see this fight as a carbon copy of that fight.

I thought the Cotto fight was pretty brutal. The Mayorga fight was also no cakewalk. B-Hops is content to box all day. Mosley is not a boxer, he's a brawler. Mosley gets hit alot more than Hopkins. Mosley is more apt to mix it up than Hopkins. In doing so, he doesnt stand a chance.

I think it's going to be like the Cotto fight. Mosley will win some rounds early with his speed but Marg will work him down in the process and by round 7 on it will be all Margarito IMO. Margarito by late stoppage is my pick. I'm really excited for the fight. Great fight between two warriors.

Mosley doesn't fight like Hopkins, that's for sure. He's going to stand and trade at times. BUT can Brother Naz possibly reign him in and remind him between rounds to fight smarter? Can he limit the damage and keep it manageable to the point where Shane could possibly still win a decision? That IMO is not completely out of the question.

I think Mosley fights smarter in this fight than previous ones. I think he'll be VERY wary of what trading with Margarito can lead to and will look to box and use his legs more than we're used to seeing him. Unlike Cotto, Mosley does not have to plant his feet to throw a punch, which like Naz said was Cotto's downfall, so he'll have a lot of success early in the fight. But Shane at 37 will not be able to fight that way for three minutes of every round. Margarito starts getting to him big time in the middle rounds. There will be some tense moments in there around rounds 7-8. Then I think Shane catches a second wind and surprises some folks by actually being the fresher of the two down the stretch. It goes to the cards and opinions are fairly divided on who's the winner. The cards are read and it's a UD for Margarito, wider than most believe it should be. 116-112 three times for Tony, with lots of heated debate afterwards.

Why is no one mentioning the high possibility of all the head shots Margarito took throughout his career finally catching up with him..? It's about that time....


Anyway...I was one of the first to pick Mosley on the board....and I'm stickin' with it...I think alot of people are gonna be surprised....

and if Mosley loses...I'll just say Margarito wasn't battle worn yet, and Mosley was a shell of his former self....

It's funny to see how many people are now giving Mosley a shot in this one, considering when this was announced almost everyone was picking Tony to destroy Shane. I always thought Shane had a chance, and still do. But though I am really pulling for Shane, I will go with Margarito by a tough decision win. I just think Margarito's pace and strength will be too much for Shane, and I see Shane fading down the stretch. Hopefully I am wrong.

Also, because I am huge Shane fan, I am going to be really nervous watching this one. Anyone else get like that? Sometimes in fights like this, I think it is better to skip it, and avoid the tension, then check the internet for results right after it is over. Then watch the replay knowing the result already.

I used to do this sometimes actually. I didn't want to risk witnessing my worst case scenario live. I think for me it was the first Holyfield-Tyson fight that got me over the hump. I was so nervous Evander was going to get killed in that fight but I still watched it live cause I just had to. After that I was good to go, but I had to face down my fear first. LOL.

I'll be nervous watching this one as well cause Shane, along with James Toney and Diego Corrales, has been my favorite fighter of the past 10 years or so now. I was real nervous when he fought Cotto too. I really like Margarito as well. This will be the first time I think I've ever rooted against him.

The solution for big fight jitters is pretty simple: Drink heavily and start early.

I guess I should clarify given the dates there...I wouldn't check the internet (early 90's I didn't know what the fuck the internet was), I'd watch Sportscenter, back of course when fights were actually mentioned on SC.

I'm going with Margarito by late stoppage, somewhere in the ballpark of 11. I put money on Margarito in rounds 10, 11 and 12.

I think that Margarito will be in control late just as he was against Cotto. I don't think at this stage of the game that Mosley can take MORE punishment than Cotto; Cotto was a fresh fighter and youth alone allowed him to take it. Mosley will take it more with heart, but I see him ultimately getting broken down. Also no one has really mentioned Margarito's body punching. I think he's going to land some very brutal body shots on Shane late once Shane starts to slow down a bit from the pace... say rounds 7-9. I think he could get hurt badly to the body the way he was in the 10th round of the first Forrest fight. If that happens, without youth on his side I don't see Shane really surviving that the way he did years ago.

Same thing with Evander-Tyson fight, I had alot of money on that fight(on Holyfield) with many different people. I was a nervous wreck watching that fight because I did not want to lose money, plus I really wanted Evander to shut alot of people up. Had like 20+ people crammed in my living room at the time, that was an amazing night, then went out afterwards drinking and celebrating. Oh, I no longer drink anymore. I know, I know, try not to look down on me too much.

That's right. Easy work for Mosley. Fuck Margarito

Mosley will use his superior speed and foot work to box his way to a u.d. victory.....Margaritos only chance is to hope for the same thing happening to Mosley that happened to Cotto.....Shane getting tired and stopping on the ropes.


I dont see that happening cuz Shane is always in great condition.

don't forget that mosley spends a lot of time on all fours, too, when his wife puts on the strap-on and has her way with him.

I get like that when it is a fighter I really like, and I have always been a fan of Mosley. But I usually watch because this stuff comes with the territory. I remember it was a sad, sad night when Vernon Forrest plastered Mosley all over the ring. Shit I feel bad when I'm watching two fighters I like knowing that one of them has to lose.

I think Mosley has a small chance to win by boxing, moving and countering, but Margarito is just going to be too much(workrate, chin, stamina) for Mosley at this point in his career. This will probably be the first time Mosley is stopped, although it wouldn't surprise me if he made the distance because like others have mentioned Mosley can fight better than Cotto going backwards and doesn't have to set his feet as much to punch, therefore he may be able to avoid some of those big shots IF he sticks to that gameplan or is trying to survive at that point. Mosley is more of a natural boxer than Cotto but that still won't be enough, Margarito TKO 11.

Its funny to hear you and Slim say that about the jitters before fights, cause I thought I was just weird when I would get like that. I get goose bumps too as the main event gets really close, sometimes when I am really amped my heart starts pounding I got to get up and walk around cause I can not sit still. I just get so caught up in the moment sometimes.

I get the biggest goosebumps during the ring walk in because I've been anticipating the fight for months, obviously at certain points during the fight, and right before the decision is announced.

First chris byrd, now shane mosley. maybe we should see if Tracy Byrd will fight Jin Mosley with their respective strap-ons on. maybe they could sword fight.

lol...the only fighter's wife I can see doing that is Byrd's....


The way Jin talks masculine level shit sometimes leads me to believe she probably prefers to be very feminine behind closed doors....

It's well known that many people who maintain a dominant persona in the public eye usually desire to be submissive in private...a "giving away of the power" kinda thing....

Those kind of personalities...whether they know it or not....WANT to be controlled and dominated in the sack.


so Jin...if you're reading this...make it happen, woman. Tell Shane you want him to fuck you pillar to post after he beats Margarito....it'll all work out.

lol...

I think a fresh new $20 to bet on Shane is appropriate after reading that. Somebody make sure Jin gets this message....

Make that 4. I get nervous as shit watching fights and again it doesn't even have to be fighers that I particularly favour.

If it's an HBO event I get it worst when Buffer starts his 'lets get ready to rumble' routine. Cliched I know but that for me signals that the fight is ON!

And yes Fitz the hands shake, the stomch rumbles I usually lubricate myself with another beer.

Funnily enough since I'm the only one I know who likes boxing I'm usually watching it by myself or I've mentioned it to my dad and I'm trying to convince him to come around and watch it with me.

In NZ the big American fights usually end up taking place around 5pm on Sunday afternoon (our time) which means I need the aforementioned nerve settlers before, during and after the fight just to keep myself sane and calmed.

On the plus side the PPV'S are routinely $24.95 NZD, so about $17 USD (including Manny/DLH) which means I can afford to buy pretty much all of 'em unless it's a total rip-off (Cotto-Gomez etc).

I will be particularly nervous this Sunday as I really want Shane to win (if only I had RT's confidence.)

But I swear to God when Buffer struts his stuff and the fighter's get into staredown mode and then the opening bell rings I always think to myself 2 things:

A. There is no better sport/moment in the world right now period. NOTHING can surpass this moment.

and

B. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else or doing anything else right now other than sitting right here watching this fight.

A great fight can leave me floating for days/weeks/months.

OR a bad one (a fighter I really like losing brutally can send me into the doldrums.)

I get nervous watching fights in this scenario:

Introducing someone new to boxing, and really pumping up how great a fighter is and how exciting he is to watch, and your friend who is skeptical is like "ok, we'll see." then the guy who is always awesome ends up getting knocked out, or looking average, or the fight sucks and you look like a complete dick in front your friend and they'll never trust you about boxing again.

that, and when a fighter i really hate is winning a fight he shouldn't. then it gives credence to all of that fighters dumb ass fans and they get to eat more sandwiches made out of their pubic hairs. fuck that.

don't worry about that shit. easy work for mosley, margarito is a poor mans version of Yogi Bear.