QUOTE(JonnyBlaze @ Feb 3 2009, 04:07 PM) [snapback]423543[/snapback]
Vic put a guy in a coma from a insane amount of hard punches..Jess Willard killed a guy with ONE uppercut..Max Baer killed a dude with ONE right hand..Willard outweighed Dempsey by 70 lbs..Willard had 6 teeth knocked out,his cheekbone destroyed,a bunch of broken ribs,and his jaw broken in quite a few places..7 knock downs in 1 round showed how tough Willard was cause his body was fucked up and you say Tyson would of stopped him faster??I disagree..Tyson even said he wanted to kill people by knocking their nose bone into their brain but he never did..Tyson never did damage like Dempsey did with his left hook..Willard probably thought he was very close to death that night..
Roy would of never fought a guy like Willard..6'6,250 with deadly power..Roy would of been too scared to even get in the ring with Willard..
Also,Lil-lightsout,Roy's chin would always be a factor at any weight if he was in there with Archie..
hang on a minute, we are talking about William "Bull" Young aren't we, the guy who died ONE day AFTER his bout with Jess Willard where he was knocked out by an uppercut in the ELEVENTH round? Shit, if the fight went 11 rounds and Willard only landed ONE punch then I guess watching a Klitschko fight really isn't that bad afterall.
And the dude Max Baer killed, do you mean Frankie Campbell? The same Frankie Campbell who knocked Baer to the ground and when he went to the neutral corner the referree never started to count Baer and Baer ran over and king hit Campbell when he wasn't looking? But that wasn't ONE punch that killed him, Baer pinned him against the ropes in round 5 and absolutely unloaded on him, and he didn't die until the next day.
Willard actually outweighed Dempsey by 58 pounds, and it doesn't mean much, Nicolay Valuev outweighd Holyfield by 96 pounds!!!
I don't know if Tyson would have stopped Willard faster than what Dempsey did, but I do know that i've never seen an opponent survive so many knockdowns from Mike Tyson regardless of how tough they are. Tyson wanted to drive Jesse Fergusons nose-bone into his brain, Ferguson was a tough guy who went on to win the world title years after his fight with Tyson, but he wouldn't stop holding Tyson and was DQ'd. I think his grabbing had a lot to do with Tyson breaking his nose the round before, maybe he thought Tyson was actually trying to kill him. Mike has always said crazy things, he said before his fight with Spinks that he wanted to break his will, take his manhood, rip out his heart and show it to him. He said to Lennox Lewis that he wanted to eat his children, but something tells me he wasn't going to try that...
As I said before, Jesus Chavez has killed a man in the ring, don't think too much into it. 8 weight divisions in the old days, 17 weight divisions these days, fights that went for longer than 15 rounds in the old days to fights that go for no more than 12 rounds today, the addition of a 4th ring rope after Davey Moore died from a freak injury in 1964, extra padding on the ring ropes, loosening of the bottom ring rope, requirement of having a doctor and an ambulance at every fight. There have been a lot of small things done to make boxing safer and so less fighters die now than they did before. Anyway, the changes were needed because todays fighter is a whole lot tougher than yesterdays fighter