Here they are, JLUV.......both are good reads....


Original Beer Thread

Super HUGE Beer Thread


and it wasn't the economy for me, Spyder.....I drank everyday (new selections/styles almost every week) for 2 years straight and simply got burnt out......I drink about 3 Beers/week max right now....might go hardcore again this Summer....

I've noticed that I drink more in the work week than I do on the weekend...it's like my job is driving me to drink! haha

My selection has tapered down though to save some coin. Recently I've been looking for the biggest bang for the smallest buck...there's a brewery from Hawaii called Kona. Their pale ale and porter's are pretty cheap...like 6.99 for a six...and they have a lot of flavor. Obviously not the best, but they are definitely solid for the price.

I picked up a Yingling Porter six the other day for 5.99...WTF was I thinking...I expected a poor mans version of a porter, but instead I got a poor mans verson of a dark lager. How the fuck can companies just label shit whatever they want? Doesn't the FDA or ATF have some kind of criteria that the product has to be what the label says that it is? I didn't even enjoy drinking them...didn't even catch a buzz.

Anyway, I just realized that this post should be in the beer thread, so I'm just gonna stop typing now.

JUNIOR WITTER AND DAVID HAYE....both british bums that tried to make a name for themselves by calling out people who are ten levels above them...hah well haye actually DID talk his way into a fight with klitscho, hatton on the other hand was too smart, and in time he made everyone that said he was dodging witter look like an ass...haye got lucky, because the same thing would have happened to him, he would have got blasted by another solid heavyweight, and thereby sending his ass back to obscurity where it belongs...I REPEAT DAVID HAYE AND JUNIOR "BABYNUTS" WITTER.

I will be the biggest Frank Shamrock fan if he can land the Tarver fight and retire the milk-dud from boxing.

Me and you both!

Where is Jonny? He may be having one of his monthly access visits with Dad down in Atlanta getting some tips on using your head in more ways than 1.

I'm nominating Margarito's fucktard of a trainer. I can't remember his name though.

Naw,actually my dog died last Saturday and I've been pretty depressed about it..I'll be back full time soon..

Tarver would KO Shamrock..

David Haye is not a bum..If he can stop Jean-Marc Mormeck,he is not a bum..I'm a big Mormeck fan too so I hate to admit it but it's true..

Only one??If ya ask me,more like 2..Whether he uses birth control or not,he is still having a baby if he has any form of sex..Holy could have anal sex with a chick and he'd have twins in 9 months..

Are you nuthugging on his fertility now?

Jonny..."Holyfield would knock out Muhammed Ali and impregnate his wife with one punch!" "He has the most potent sperm in the history of man!"

i hate to hear about your dog passing johnny... my dogs become part of the family too...

Cosign on Gaye...












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Thanks a lot man..She was a big part of the family for the last 13 years..It has been really sad..A dog is like having another brother or sister basically..I'm a big animal person..

Spyder,nuthugging??I really like Holy a lot as you all know,but I was bustin on him about the kid thing..His kid and women issues are fair game for me,I'll get in on that action too as ya just saw..Holy would give Ali a great fight but would probably lose..

Does that sound like nuthugging to you??

Put me down for that hairy, big headed motherfucker Valuev. Do I really need any reason to hate him? Fuck no, because blind hatred is still hatred.

Sorry to hear about that dude. Was your dog old?

I second Valuev.

I nominate Holy just because I know how cut Jonny will be if Vander makes it in the list.

Believe or not a lot of people hate Vander... I wouldn't be surprised to see him make the list.

I have never met anyone personally who hated Evander. I do not know what it is about him exactly, but he comes off as such a good guy of the sport. He always seemed to be very liked to everyone I ever talked to. Now I am sure there are some haters out there, but it can not be that many? You think he is fake, or is he really "The Real Deal" when it comes to his humbleness and soft spoken nature? Maybe some people do not like the fact that he beat Tyson twice, headbutts, and can not keep his junk in his pants with several women while he is married(especially cause he is very religious)? IDK, just speculating.

Damn, this board is always dead on Sundays. I guess that means mostly everyone is at church all day.

Personally, I like Vander. But I know tons of people that HATE him with a passion. Not because of his boxing skills but his life outside the ring.

That puts Valuev at 7...let's throw that big, hairy pussy in The Dump.


I respect Holyfield, but I don't like him....USED to like him....after watching his performance in the Olympics (and getting screwed) and as a Cruiser....



Current Status


Kermit Cintron - Dumped and awaiting more Haters....

Antonio Tarver - Dumped and awaiting more Haters....

Bob Arum - Dumped and awaiting more Haters....

John Ruiz - Dumped and awaiting more Haters....

Nikolai Valuev - 7

ALL Fight Judges - 5

Ricky Hatton - 5

Greg Leon - 5

Jim Gray - 4

Sam Peter - 4

Vic Darchinyan - 4

Vivian Harris - 3

Winky Wright - 3

Roy Jones Junior - 3

Anthony Mundine - 3

Larry Merchant - 3

Oscar De La Hoya - 3

Lucien Bute - 2

Manny Steward - 2

Steve Farhood - 2

Jason Litzau - 2

Chris Arreola - 2

Amir Khan - 2

Jay Nady - 2

Joe Cortez -2

Richard Steele - 2

Dave Parris - 2

Frank Santore - 2

Marlon B. Wright - 2

Mikkel Kessler - 2

Vernon Forrest - 2

David Haye - 2

Junior Witter - 2

Wlad Klitschko - 2

Vitali Klitschko - 1

Andre Berto - 1

Sergio Martinez - 1

Frank Warren - 1

Jim Lampley - 1

Lennox Lewis - 1

Bob Papa - 1

Harold Lederman - 1

Max Kellerman - 1

Felix Sturm - 1

Alfred Angulo -1

Zab Judah - 1

Nate Campbell - 1

Alex Abraham - 1

James Toney - 1

Jeff Fenech - 1

Naazim Richardson - 1

Edison Miranda - 1

Anthony Peterson - 1

Lamont Peterson - 1

Leonard Ellerbee - 1

Evander Holyfield - 1

Just messing with you Jon, but it sounded more like bragging coming from you...I guess due to your posting history concerning Mr. Holyfield.


So you like the big girls huh?

Yeah I hate Cotto. Put that little prick down for me. I have hated him since day 1.

I cannot put my finger on why I hate him but I decided a long time ago that I do & I hope he suffers many more beatings throughout his career.

He deserved that beating he took from Margarito & the only bad thing is I wish it went longer & was more brutal. I hope Margs leoaded his gloves in that one as then I would enjoy it even more.

Yeah I have been watching underbelly. It is quite good.

The actual "underbelly" books focus on a lot of the general crime in OZ but there are specific ones that deal with the events in the underbelly series.

What is funny is the Sydney vs Melbourne rivalry.

The fact is that the Melbourne crooks were a lot more random & looser than their Sydney counterparts. Melbourne crims would not last 5 minutes in Sydney & vice versa.

That is due to the fact that you did not do crime in Sydney without paying the old bill for the green light to commit crime. If you wanted to be a loose cannon like say Chopper you would dissapear courtosey of the bill. In Vic the cops were not as corrupt taking money & all that so the crims did what they wanted.

That is why Victoria is perceived as a more "violent" & "dangerous" state. The simple fact is that in Sydney when the cops ran the crooks things flowed nice & easy without the gangland murders being public, people just went missing & probably went to Queensland for a "permanant holiday".

If they do not have Neddy Smith & Roger Rogerson in this Underbelly then there is something seriously wrong.

Thanks man..She was 13 years old..We just lost our other dog that was a lab almost 2 years ago..He was 14 years old..It's been rough but it has been getting somewhat better..

I've never met anyone who hates Holy either..If you hate Holy,you're most likely a Tyson nuthugger(dreamer)..Tyson would have never beaten Holy so ya all need to get over it..A cruiserweight Holy would have beaten a heavyweight Tyson..

Put me down for Valuev and Trinidad(somewhat active fighter)..

The first 4 Chopper books, Neddy by Neddy Smith & the Andrew Rule & John Sylvester books are quite good.




Man that sux but at least they had a good innings & hopefully lived a full doggy life.

For sure..They lived long happy lives..It's just sad to see them go..

I'll be on here a lot more these days..It seems like I didn't miss too much..Hopefully Hype can get some chats going again..

I'll also add Sergio Mora to my hate list..I've never liked anything about this guy..

Holy fuck, I can't believe I forgot about that prick. Yes, second that for me. Shit, third, fourth and fifth it if you can. FUCK SERGIO MORA.

hahaha..For sure!!!

Yeah add me for the Latin Fake.

I don't understand the lack of hate for Felix Sturm?

This man is signed to fight Koji Sato. That should be enough to eran some hate. Especially when he was offered twice as much to fight Abraham and turned it down.


WHERE ARE ALL THE STURM HATERS?

That's 8 for Valuev.

Can't do Trinidad....if there's any word of him fighting again, we'll throw his name in....someone else mentioned him too I think....




Thanks for reminding us about that fool.....GOTTA hate him.







A quick 4 for Mora.

5 for Mora.

Another one for Sergio Mora, man I could never stand him. Does this guy have any fans?

Hahaha..I'm surprised at the responses to Mora..hahaha..He is a bum who thinks he's great..

I would've voted for Mora about two years ago...but fortunantly he is irrelevant at the moment.

Can we accept this as a vote CEO? I would love it if we could. C'mon Jonny, just officially vote for him.


But this is exactly why he's perfect for the Hate Dump. He's a fucking insignificant nobody that thinks he's the shit but we can't create an entire Hatewagon for him. He's fucking nobody. But this is the best we can get until someone puts him on a fucking stretcher.

Add me for Valuev. Never really hated him THAT much, but I would like to see more fighters in the Hate Dump, and well, I don't like him enough to put him there.

Did I vote for Saccharine Shay? He is a candidate for sure.

I was the one who got the snake tally going..I'm #1 on that list..haha..He is very irrevelant but I don't like him either way..To hate a fighter doesn't mean they have to be elite..I hate Arreola more than anyone on here and he is far from elite but HBO always is talking about how he is in the top 5 heavyweights to challenge for the title..HBO wants a American heavyweight more than anyone..Hell,I don't care where the guy is from if he's good..If all the belts were outside the US in every weight class but I liked all the fighters,I wouldn't be thinking or hoping for a US fighter to take a title..I've said it many times,skills is what I care about,nothing else really matters..

Haha. My bad. Hate for Sergio Mora is probably the only hate that blinds me.

Very true..

Put me down for Sergio Mora...

Mora's on the front page saying Vernon doesn't want to "step up" and fight him again. I think that's AMPLE reason to despise the bastard.

Has anybody put Cory Spinks on this list yet?? How has this boring crybaby avoided wrath for 32 pages???

His BULLSHIT win over Mayorga that robbed fans of the Mosley-Mayorga fight (for four years anyway). His GAY AS FUCK ring entrances. The way he SOBS like a school girl after each and every fight. Holy shit let's get this going.

Didn't Mora used to be sparring partners with Margarito?

Associaton alone would make him dump worthy...ok, dump his ass!

Agree on HeShe Smith....









Agree on CorMWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! Spinks....




You know it....

Come on, guys...that's 9 for Valuev and and 8 for Mora....MAKE IT HAPPEN!!

I laughed as soon as I saw his name on the front page..

I don't have hate for Spinks though..I really thought hard about hating him after his 10 minute gay ass enterance to a song no one wanted to fucking hear by Nelly's retarded ass..He got what he deserved though after pullin that shit..Zab almost bend him in half sideways..hahaha..I'll never forget that moment of that fight..It was definitely something you don't see everyday in boxing..I like Spinks inside the ropes though..

Yeah put me down for Stinks.