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dbdbdb
Here is a topic I don't see discussed often.

How do you recover from injuries you suffer during training ??

Do you have a system of recovery ??

Do you back off from training hard and go light for awhile until you recover ??

Do you stop altogether until you're healed ??


Let's hear it.
STEVENSKI
Ask Jonny's Trainer. He will have all the old school answers & most of them will involve being a man & training through it, chewing tar & brining.
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QUOTE(STEVENSKI @ Mar 29 2009, 09:11 PM) [snapback]430143[/snapback]
Ask Jonny's Trainer. He will have all the old school answers & most of them will involve being a man & training through it, chewing tar & brining.


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As entertaining as his recommendations would be ... I question its usefulness in reality.
STEVENSKI
Well brining your face & chewing a tar like substance will do the following.

Brining your face will toughen it like old leather. When did you ever hear of Manassa Jack suffering a cut? He may have had a face like 5 miles of bad road but he pulled more pussy than a Chinese takeaway. That is not very practical today because fighters like Cotto & DLH use metro mosturisers & toners as well as shaving their vaginas.

Chewing tar or a leather strap will increase your jaw strength & ability to absorb punishment. Again not so popular today due to the abundance of metro vaginal shaving so called fighters who fight once a year.

As for training through a injury well that is pretty silly.
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QUOTE(STEVENSKI @ Mar 31 2009, 06:38 PM) [snapback]430318[/snapback]
Well brining your face & chewing a tar like substance will do the following.

Brining your face will toughen it like old leather. When did you ever hear of Manassa Jack suffering a cut? He may have had a face like 5 miles of bad road but he pulled more pussy than a Chinese takeaway. That is not very practical today because fighters like Cotto & DLH use metro mosturisers & toners as well as shaving their vaginas.

Chewing tar or a leather strap will increase your jaw strength & ability to absorb punishment. Again not so popular today due to the abundance of metro vaginal shaving so called fighters who fight once a year.

As for training through a injury well that is pretty silly.


Funny stuff there, STEVENSKI -

I've read stories about the bizaar and crazy practice of brining and rubbing bull piss on your face to toughen it up.

But that was for an era where guys did battle gladiator style - they fought face-first and was proud of it. Manly-men who didn't give a sh*t how much punishment they took -- as long as their opponent suffered the worst beating of the two. laugh.gif

During that time it was a blast to tell the kids, family and friends where you got each and every scar on your face. and when you went to the local brothel, it was full of babes that loved the battle-scars ... The sweet old days are gone forever.

Now we have prince's & princesses who prance around the ring in fear of scars and marks on their faces. The desire to really see who is the toughest, baddest man\woman on the planet has been replaced by the darlings of the sport.

We're in a totally different era now -- I guess it was all the brain damage, concussions, cracked eye sockets and the such, that made the new era of boxers favor the 'Sweet Science' of kicking ass -- while NOT taking an ass-whippin in return.

I tell you, watching the sweet science, when its done right -- nothing like it!!! ..... But it doesn't compare to the down & dirty face busting, gladiator style of doing battle. Now that's excitement!!!!

Back to the brining\bull-piss ........... Since I'm not getting paid millions to box professionally ... I'll pass.

Plus, I have a loving lady at home that has 'Being A Pain In The Ass' down to a science. And its in my best interest, not to give her any ammo to startup with.
STEVENSKI
Well brining will mean a lack of cuts so it is up to you. There is nothing that will prevent you from a bit of tar chewing though.
happygocampy
Personally i train harder, I've found that my injuries linger if i back off, and heal faster the harder i work. Good bloodflow from cardio will get injuries healing faster. Though of course, i avoid aggrevating whatever is injured. When i was younger i had wrist problems, havn't had wrist problems in a long time but when i did i wouldn't work the heavy bag for a few days. Once in a while i have lower back pain from an injury i suffered as a teen, if it acts up i make sure to avoid excercises that aggrevate it, if i train hard the pain is gone in 2-3 days, when i used to back off it would last weeks.

Not everyones the same, and some people think i'm wrong. To each their own, but i understand my body and what works for me.
dbdbdb
I really back off when I get one of those deeeep muscle injuries ... I got a little one now just under the right shoulder-blade because I've really been loading up on the heavy bag. But while I was just lifting weights ... never got any injuries to speak of and I pull decent weight.

Minor injuries, I've found, can be worked through .. just change your routine so that you're not pulling the same muscle group.

And you're absolutely right, nobodies the same ... so, you have to push yourself to find your limits and then gauge how your body recovers.
Spyder
I have a lower back injury as well from a lifetime of athletics. During my rehab, they had me watch a back school video to help me know what to do when I feel pain. I thought it would say to lay off of it, but it actually said the opposite...



You have to break the cycle by staying active while in pain...so JonnysTrainer is CORRECT!
ROLL DEEP
I think you just have to be sensible and listen to your body.



When I've been injured, depending on the injury, I've trained through it, rested and done some light training. All depends on what the injury is.


I slipped a disc in my back, so when I did that, obviously I did nothing. I did fuck all for a few weeks.


I hyper extended my arm and just done some light training to keep in the swing of things. Focused on other things, like weight training on my legs, running and kicking (I do kickboxing laugh.gif )


Sometimes, with other injuries and illnesses, I've trained through them like nothings wrong. Sometimes I'm fine, sometimes I cause more injury or make things worse.


I think it's just a case of being sensible and knowing your limits when injured.

Spyder
My back injury is a herniated disc...it hurt like a bitch, but I should've kept working out. Now in recovery, I have to make up for lost time.
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QUOTE (Spyder @ Apr 11 2009, 09:06 PM) *
My back injury is a herniated disc...it hurt like a bitch, but I should've kept working out. Now in recovery, I have to make up for lost time.


Sad thing about a herniated disk is that it doesn't heal itself. I worked in the medical profession for 15 years and scrubbed in on several herniated disk procedures and the only way to reduce the pressure on the nerve is to clip\cut off the portion that has bulged out. Its a simple procedure but recurrence is common. So be careful with that back pain, especially if it involves a herniation.
Spyder
QUOTE (dbdbdb @ Apr 13 2009, 08:46 PM) *
Sad thing about a herniated disk is that it doesn't heal itself. I worked in the medical profession for 15 years and scrubbed in on several herniated disk procedures and the only way to reduce the pressure on the nerve is to clip\cut off the portion that has bulged out. Its a simple procedure but recurrence is common. So be careful with that back pain, especially if it involves a herniation.

Mine is in the best possilbe position...if that makes any sense. lol

L5 and the herniation is inward directly into the column. When I hurt it, I could barely move. Luckily, with work on an inversion table it has receded to the point that it no longer touches on my nerves. It's still there, and I know it could give me pain again...but I'm not going to "baby" it like I had.
JonnyBlaze
My friend at the gym gave me some stuff called Zheng Gu Shui and it's been helping me a lot(a lot of MMA fighters use it I've heard)..I had an elbow problem and it has been taking care of it..Look it up and read some reviews about it..They have some of it on Amazon too..I've been using it the last 2 weeks..Every injury is different so obviously the healing process will vary..I definitely recommend it though..
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QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Apr 29 2009, 01:24 PM) *
My friend at the gym gave me some stuff called Zheng Gu Shui and it's been helping me a lot(a lot of MMA fighters use it I've heard)..I had an elbow problem and it has been taking care of it..Look it up and read some reviews about it..They have some of it on Amazon too..I've been using it the last 2 weeks..Every injury is different so obviously the healing process will vary..I definitely recommend it though..


Zheng Gu Shui, Discover the Topical Analgesic that Chinese have been widely using for over 60 years. Zheng Gu Shui won the Chinese Public Health Ministry’s Best Quality Award and is quickly gaining a foothold in over 20 countries world wide who are turning to this topical analgesic for temporary relief for muscle pain, joint pain, bruising and pain from other injury's.

Translated, Zheng Gu Shui means bone-setting solution. Its function is to promote blood circulation, stop pain and help regeneration of bone tissue.

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I'm going to order some of that stuff .... The ben-gay odor gets annoying. And the Chinese after 60 years can't be wrong.
JonnyBlaze
QUOTE (dbdbdb @ Apr 30 2009, 04:33 PM) *
Zheng Gu Shui, Discover the Topical Analgesic that Chinese have been widely using for over 60 years. Zheng Gu Shui won the Chinese Public Health Ministry’s Best Quality Award and is quickly gaining a foothold in over 20 countries world wide who are turning to this topical analgesic for temporary relief for muscle pain, joint pain, bruising and pain from other injury's.

Translated, Zheng Gu Shui means bone-setting solution. Its function is to promote blood circulation, stop pain and help regeneration of bone tissue.

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I'm going to order some of that stuff .... The ben-gay odor gets annoying. And the Chinese after 60 years can't be wrong.

The smell this stuff gives off is like Vicks.This stuff works!!
Vega
If you can't rest your injuries, I always try to avoid working out the areas that are injured. This doesn't work so well for a bad back but if you injured your shoulder or arms, then work on your legs and mid-section. For instance you could do squats or crunches or you could run or bike. If your injury is in your legs then work out you upper body. This way, your giving your injured part of your body time to rest and repair itself while still being able to workout.

Vega Sinclair, Health Insurance Advisor
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