QUOTE (thehype @ May 7 2009, 08:33 PM)
I disagree. You can't FORCE someone to listen to you. Floyd Sr. makes it very clear to anyone and everyone who actually listens that it's HIS way or the highway. He's a no-nonsense, old school trainer (which is part of the reason why he and Lil Floyd can't get along when training together) that doesn't enjoy sharing training duties with ANYONE...and that includes strength-and-conditioning coaches. The comparison to Gatti and McGirt is like comparing apples to oranges. By the time Gatti got together with McGirt, he was already at the lowest point of his career. He was at the bottom with absolutely no place else to go so he had no choice but to put his trust in McGirt and everything Buddy was telling him to do. When Floyd got together with Hatton, he was coming into a situation where Hatton had just lost his first fight, but he still had the principal people in his team surrounding him. Oh sure, he got rid of Billy Graham, but Lee Beard was still in the picture and from what I hear, was actually trying to call the shots as far as the gameplan for Manny is concerned. That why in between the 1st and 2nd round, you can hear Floyd Sr. saying, "you should have listened to me from day 1!" That one statement right there makes it pretty clear that there were too many chefs in the kitchen and Hatton still placed his trust with those that were familiar to him...like Lee Beard. I strongly believe the only reason why they brought Mayweather in was to teach him some new tricks as far as defense is concerned. I don't think they ever really gave him the respect as the head trainer and the man that comes up with the gameplan. It's one thing to get along with everyone, but it's another thing to put your complete trust in someone that you barely know. Ultimately, I think that's what caused Hatton's demise...his own decision to trust Beard and his gameplan more than Mayweather Sr.
I see what you're saying, Ben, but I think that, seeing how Floyd Sr is, and knowing what Ricky's like, I just don't think Ricky clicked with him. The fact that Ricky was doing stuff with Beard, who is a decent but hardly world class trainer, tells me that Ricky and Floyd just weren't gelling.
I can't say I know Floyd personally, and I only know Ricky through a couple interviews and polite conversations, but I would hazard a guess that Floyd was pulling his normal shit and Ricky is too down to earth to get caught up in Floyd's shit.
I'm a trainer myself and I know that if you don't gel with a kid, you know it immediately. If you're a trainer, either the kid is receptive to you or not. The fact that this is their second fight tells me that Ricky was at least a little receptive.
If he wasn't, then that Floyd's shit to deal with. He's the trainer after all, and it's his reputation. Blaming the fighter for not listening is like the fighter blaming the trainer for not teaching him.
I'll say agin, the fighter's didn't gel, and I'd say that was more on Floyd than Ricky.
But like someone said, Ricky at his best wouldn't have made it to the end with Pacquiao. Different levels.