It would be great to get all of the guys together and party in Vegas this summer. What do you think? How about the weekend of Mayweather-Marquez?

We've talked about doing something like that in the past...though I'm not a fan of the "convention" word...it sounds too much like people should be showing up dressed like Captain Kirk.

It'd be REAL difficult to do because of how spread out our members are...this community is literally a World Wide group. Could you imagine the Aussies trying to figure out how to board an airplane or the Brits navigating Philly airport? Shit would be bad news!

I'll do it, but not for "Needs Money" Mayweather.

If nothing else, perhaps regional gatherings (east coast, west coast, etc.).

I'm back in Spokane Washington.

Let's meet up for a "Thursday Night Fights" edition @ the Couer d'alene Casino. ha ha

well for my part, i would love to represent scotland at such an event in vegas (any excuse) but after last time i dare say my credit card company might hit me with a "get a fuckin grip sonny"

I'm just trying to imagine myself going around the world to meet some of you guys, I wouldn't even travel 150km or so for pussy. I can barely even imagine myself boarding a flight .
Stevenski was in Melbourne last weekend, we were meant to meet up for a drink and talk boxing, but was busy.

You and Stevenski ever meet before? Or just met/talk on this forum? Sucks you guys did not meet last weekend? You could have posted a picture of him. Lately he has shown to be extremely knowledgeable with his posts, especially with his knowledge of old school fighters. I hope he has not lost all his hate though, it is good for humor sometimes.

No, never met before. Yes he does have pretty good old school knowledge, I lack a little bit in the old school department, I'm still trying to collect some of the older fights.

I'd meet up as long as its in the states and I know two months in advance. Hell you guys should come to south beach this weekend in Miami.

I only suggested Vegas because we'd get to see a fight in the process, plus it's a fun town that could lead to some crazy stories. I figure if 10,000 Brits can travel to Vegas for Hatton, we can do it it for a fighthype party, if given an ample amount of time to prepare. As long as it's not during June (I'll be in China for a month), I'm game to going anywhere for it, as long as we have a big group. Now is the time to do it because flights are so cheap (just got my China tix for $750 r/t, usually $1200).

I think Method lives down there.

How about Atlantic City?

I do live in South Beach, and this is the weekend from hell for all the locals...but all good.

LOL yep yep...memorial day weekend. I normally try not to act too much like a tourist though. I love me some Jerrys Famous Deli! What are some other pretty nice spots to eat at down there?

I'd love to put faces with names... Meeting alot of you cats would be fun... It would be cool, if we could do it on the backdrop of a big fight, say Mayweather/Pacquiao...

That would be hot...but probably pretty expensive as well. Depends on the venues I guess. There is a thread in the general discussion where posters posted their pictures though. I know I'm in ATL a lot as well, mainly for work though. If Evander fights there again I'm sure that wouldn't be an expensive fight to go catch lol.

If & when that fight comes off I will be locked in a windowless room with a heavy duty security grill. Even that may not contain my hate but I certainly could not go out in public.

Funny that you mention Evander. I met him a few weeks ago at an amateur boxing tournament. His son was competing. Really approachable guy. Alot smaller than I thought he'd be. I just need to meet Lennox Lewis and I'll have met the 3 great heavyweights of my era. Met Tyson 20 years ago when he was at the top of his game. Bastard took my prom date in his limo while she was standing next to me... Funny when you look back at it now...

Damn seriously? LMAO...that must have been one of those moments when you was so angry you just wanted to hit the guy. Did that would have put you in a lose lose situation, you lose your date and you lose the fight. LOL

Stevenski is the guy I count on when I talk about old school stuff..I really like talking about old schoolers with him..He's got depth..Not many on here are very interested in talking about old school guys..JLuv has shown some good knowledge of old schoolers too lately..I wish And The New would come back but he said he didn't like the shit talking of members(member to member) on here..I don't blame him either..I know he was like me and is here to talk boxing but people try to ruin it..

Original MrFactor,what was Holyfield like??You're lucky as hell man..I've been dying to talk to him..I'm jelous as hell..A lot smaller than you thought he'd be??Well he is 6'2 and 220 lbs at most..He stays in shape all the time..When you see him,he's not massive like other heavyweights..He is more cut than all of them though..I saw him at the AIBA amateur tournament in Chicago and I could see all his back muscle through his suit..It was insane..Did you get a pic with him??

I was gonna whoop Tyson's ass, but iIwas afraid his partners Jay Bright(?) and crew would jump in it... LOL!!! All tongue in cheek... I actually ended up going to the prom with someone else after that...

Well I know put 2 and 2 together but I'd like some clarification on this..hahaha..What do you think happened between Tyson and that chick??Like I said,I'd like some clarification..Crazy situation.

Well atleast you have a story to tell your grand kids. LOL I'm sure as hell they'll know about Tyson.

Dude you have to know & appreciate the old schoolers to understand the disdain I hold for a lot of modern fighters especially the ones like PBF who have all the talent & potential & then waste it by fighting as little as possible & "retiring" on a whim when we all knew he was coming back. Floyd needs a old fashioned ass kicking to sort him out I think. One like Duran gave to Davey Moore would suit me just fine.

I don't care if fighters are more "scientific" these days because I still say if you have had 100 fights you know a bucketload more about fighting than someone who has had 20 fights. I am not talking about letting your trainer slap your gloves with their mitts to show how "fast" you are I'm talking about learning all the little things that make a fighter experienced.

Guys that fought all the time learnt subtle moves with their feet & hands that would stump a modern fighter & knew a thing or two about inside fighting & closing the distance. Parrying & slipping punches creates openings & I really don't see a lot of the craft these days when I watch boxing.

It is also such a myth that the old & bold were all brawlers who were the equivelant of club fighters these days. Guys like Greb did not believe in training because they believed in fighting. I believe it was HG that said why spar when you can have a fight? Do that once or twice a week & you are always fight fit. You may not have the rippling muscles but you can fight 10, 15 or 20 hard rounds easy.

Holy was really laid back. A buddy of mine introduced us. His whole family was there to support their boys that were fighting in the tourney. My buddy is a ref for that tourney, so he knows Holy pretty well. He took a pic with me and my 8 year old son. My son, has no idea... He will one day when I'm 60 talking about Holy, Tyson and Lewis in the barbershop. Kinda like the old guys talk about SRR and Joe Louis. Maybe then he'll appreciate the moment...

Damn Steven how old are you.........62? LOL I'm kidding. No but I really understand where your coming from. I've done a lot of research on older boxers myself but I'm not as confident in sharing some of my thoughts about them cause I'm not as knowledgeable about them as I want to be. Dont get me wrong I know my fair share but I'm not Burt Sugar Jr. I actually enjoy reading what a lot of you guys conversation regarding some of the older fighters because I'm learning at the same time. I think everyone knows the big name old schoolers like SRR, Archie, and Joe Louis but a lot of people dont understand where guys like Floyd and sweet pea got their styles from. You watch a Willie Pep vid and be like damn I see now. To me its like hip hop music...these young kids love some of these new Kanye and 9th wonder Jams but dont understand the importants and essences of old school music cause hell thats where most of it is sampled from.

So keep talking your old school and throw out your random hate tantrums every now and then cause those are funny as hell too. lol

He whooped Joe Louis ass!

LMAO

Nothing happened, so I was told. We were up at the Court house watching the Tyson/Givens divorce. After Tyson took her in the Limo, I went back to my ride and realized I left my lights on. Battery was dead, so I was stuck at the courthouse with my dad's car. I wasnt supposed to be up there. I was able to flag someone down after about an hour and get a jump. I lived about 20minutes away from the court house. Homegirl arrived at her crib shortly after I got home. She said Tyson was a gentleman and they didnt do anything... I believe her. I was more pissed about my battery being dead earlier that day...

King don't ever be afraid of saying what you think with old fighters. Unless it is really silly you will not be called on it here. I am 30 but learned a healthy appreciation for the fighters of old through books & video. There are some modern fighters that could hang in any era for sure but the talent pool was much much deeper 50-100 years ago with nightly fight cards in most cities & every guy trying their hand at boxing. There are a lot of people who play football or basketball or baseball or tennis or no sport that could be great fighters but they never had a go. It is not a coincidence that most boxers come from the 3rd world or the ghetto & you just don't get middle & upper class boxers because they have far more options to make a living.

We have already seen a surge in East Euro fighters & I expect to see far more central Asian fighters competing at the elite level in the years to come.

You tell me what you want to eat, and I'll tell you where to go. Jerry's Deli makes some REALLY good cheesesteaks...So does Cheeseburger Baby. Cheese Burger Baby also makes some delicious ass cheeseburgers. However if you want a burger, they opened a new spot on like 14th and Alton called 8 Oz Burger, and it's bombastic. San Loco, on 14th between Washington and Collins (I think), makes the freshest, cleanest tacos, and is a personal favorite that I dont get at as often as I should. Im just giving you quick and dirty beach food ideas. Not sure if you're gonna be doing the restaurant thing at night or if you're just gona be out bird doggin chicks and bangin beaver.

I live all the way down on first street, away from all the bullshit. I can tell you where to go for whatever you want to eat....from the quick and dirty to the ultra high end.

I could've used that info on the last night of my honeymoon. We stayed a night on South Beach and ate at a couple of hotel restaurants...$200 for shit!



Damn son! LMAO

I'm sorry, but that is about the saddest story I have ever heard...

First you get your girl snatched off your arm by Mike Tyson, and then you get stuck in the court house parking lot with a dead battery! Dude, you must've been hating life at that moment.

BTW, you KNOW that Tyson was fingers deep in that ho AT LEAST...there was most definitely some bobbing going on too. Gentleman...HA...girls always say that after doing the deed, so they don't feel guilty. He probably said something real nice to her too...like, "Hey, baby...you got some nice ass titties...let me suck on those titties."

No shit!!3King3,what do I gotta do??Strong arm ya into talking about old schoolers??hahaha..If you watch the old school,you'll see where guys today got their moves and styles..James Toney and Floyd got a lot from watching Archie Moore and Willie Pep..Pep's picture should be in the dictionary under the word Defense..

Steve,again you drop another name a lot of people probably don't know..Yet,if people like Bob Dylan,they've heard the song "Who killed Davey Moore"..Davey Moore was an amazing fighter..Fighters today should look up to a guy like Davey Moore..He has to be in the top 5 best featherweights ever..It's a sad story what happened to him in the ring but he died doing what he loved..

"Guys that fought all the time learnt subtle moves with their feet & hands that would stump a modern fighter & knew a thing or two about inside fighting & closing the distance. Parrying & slipping punches creates openings & I really don't see a lot of the craft these days when I watch boxing."-- --------I completely agree..Good shit Steve..Parrying a punch is extremely important and very few guys know how to do it these days..Marciano is not known for his defense,but he knew how to really parry a jab..Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robinson who were before Marciano parried the same way..When they would parry a jab,they didn't catch it and do nothing,they'd parry it and make you wide open for a free shot by setting you off balance by using your momentum against you..I think th craft has also suffered..Trainers aren't what they used to be back in the days of Ray Arcel,Jack Blackburn,Doc Kearns(manager and trainer),and others..Ray Arcel is the best trainer ever in my opinion..

I thought Davey Moore got run over by his own car while he was working on it?

Different Davey Moore, not the one who fought Duran.

This one was a featherweight in the 50s and 60s, and died after a fight with Sugar Ramos.

Naw,he died 2 days after a fight..His neck hit a bottem rope and gave him whiplash..His brain was really messed up from it and he passed out during an interview or something after the fight and never woke up..I remember hearing that doctors had said that it was impossible for a punch to cause the injury he suffered so they either watched the tape of the fight or did something that made them realize it was from when his neck hit the rope..They had to make some safety changes after this happened I believe..They made it a rule that the boxing ropes had to be padded after this..

After he got knocked down and his neck hit the ropes,he got back up and kept fighting and got put back down but Davey's manager or trainer said he couldn't go on..Davey was a warrior and an ATG..

The fight was less than a year after the Griffith-Paret fight too. Amazingly, he actually gave an interview in the ring after the fight, no sign of any trouble, and collapsed in the locker room. Just never woke up.

Yeah,it's really crazy that that happened to him..It was definitely a freak accident..The odds of that happening is so slim..Davey Moore reminds me of Million Dollar Baby,but it was a rope and not a stool that messed his neck up..I remember hearing he was having the interview in his locker room and an interviewer asked him how he was and he said his head ached and he passed out after that..Davey Moore is a sad story in boxing..He was an ATG in my opinion..

Who Killed Davey Moore--Bob Dylan

I was actually talking about the one who fought Duran & how Floyd deserves that kind of thrashing to bring him back to reality. That said the old Davey More was a brilliant fighter.

I just feel sad that a lot of the subtle elements seem lost today. Just some of the simple things like parrying to get positional advantage seem lost arts.

I think Ricky Hatton would have had a lot more success if he had watched a guy like LaMotta more as he really knew how to use a combination of footspeed & his setup jab to get inside & stay inside. That combined with his torso movement meant he had a lot of success with all different kinds of fighters. Hatton had the tools especially early in his career to emulate Jake but chose to rely on bulling his way inside by taking shots to the head.

This here is my intentions lol. Preciate the rundown though. My lady isn't going with me on this trip so nothing too nice and expensive for me. I just need something to be on my stomach to help absorb all the alcohol I'm a be drinking while I'm down there. Once again preciate it my dude.

Ali and Pep are my favorite old school fighters. they would have been great even in this era.

Imagine Pep vs. Manny! Man that would be exciting. I'd go with pep by decision or late round stoppage.

Pep would destroy any guy at featherweight in any era..That guy was amazing..You guys may say guys are stronger now and all that bullshit but Pep would outsmart,out class,and embarrass any guy of this era..That guy would shit skills every morning..Size and all that stuff don't mean anything when you have the skills..An example of recent times is Chris Byrd(more extreme than anything Pep would have to deal with in terms of size and strength)..If you bring up Saddler,he was a freak when it came to power..Archie Moore taught him how to punch..P4P,Saddler was one of the hardest punchers with 103 KOs..Actually I believe he was ranked the 5th hardest puncher of all time in The Ring magazine..It's hard to argue with that..He was devistating and would still be the hardest punching featherweight today..

Agree with this. Robinson must have been amazing because he beat Pep in the amateurs however and I know I'll get flamed for this, when I see Pep's videos vs. Robinson's, it seems that Pep had the style that would have better transcended through different eras.

About the "meet up" and since Florida was mentioned, theres always the "Jeff Lacy vs. Roy Jones" fight,lol. I mean after all, probably those in the arena (most from comp'd tickets) will be the only ones that'll see that fight.