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Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (blackbelt2003 @ Jun 4 2009, 04:35 PM) *
If Klit can beat Valuev and add the WBA belt, it makes the fight even more attractive for the future.



Black


Klit would kill Valuev, I could careless about that matchup. As far as unifications go, It would be nice if the champs would fight one another, BUT the crooked sactioning bodies would eventually strip the champ anyway so they can appoint two other top heavies to fight for the title. Unfortunately I do not see a unified heavyweight champ anytime soon.
STEVENSKI
Just to state that I hate every active heavyweight right now. Who cares it is a division with less talent than one of my chest hairs & my chest hair is not talented whatsoever.
buford54
I'm sure the injury is legit...but it really looks bad on Haye.
To talk SOOOO much crap to get someone into the ring and then pull out because of a training injury?
Especially an injury that's only going to keep you out from 3 weeks.

"I'm going KILL YOU!....Actually, hold on for a minute, charlie horse....."
BGv2.0
If Haye is simply asking for a postponement.....I think Wlad should consider it, as he and his brother refuse to fight at anything less than 100%.

BUT....if he is going to go ahead and fight, there are a few decent replacements.

Holyfield=NOW BEFORE you bash me....I'm not saying I myself want to see this fight....BUT the FACTS are....Holy still generates fan interest and the crowd would love to see him, he is always in shape, and he did beat Valuev the last time he was given a quick shot and he would most likely be willing.

Ruiz=I know people would hate it....but again...in Europe he has garnered interest in his close fights with Valuev and Chagaev. He is a known commodity there and despite people's hate for him....he would be willing and his difficult "style" might make for an ugly but decent fight for a few rounds.

Povetkin=Rock and Haye pretty well muscled their way past Povetkin in the Wlad sweepstakes.....if I remember correctly he was supposed to be given a shot awhile back.

Golota=This would be a decent Euro commodity....and...despite his last outing (which I think was a legit arm tear) he was on a role. If the arm is healed and he is ready....he's as good as any.

Oleg Maskiev= Old solid name....still a decent levle of talent despite the age...could give Wlad a few rounds.

Meehan, Williamson....


KEEP IN MIND....I'm in no way cheerleading for any of these bouts.....I'm just keeping the venue and fans in mind.

The list of solid, named HW commodities is shrinking by the year.

Sure there are a few young guys that could get the nod....Chambers, Arreola, etc. BUT...they have just come off bouts or have one set up...and really IMHO have just about as much chance as any of the guys I listed above.
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (BGv2.0 @ Jun 5 2009, 01:44 AM) *
If Haye is simply asking for a postponement.....I think Wlad should consider it, as he and his brother refuse to fight at anything less than 100%.

BUT....if he is going to go ahead and fight, there are a few decent replacements.

Holyfield=NOW BEFORE you bash me....I'm not saying I myself want to see this fight....BUT the FACTS are....Holy still generates fan interest and the crowd would love to see him, he is always in shape, and he did beat Valuev the last time he was given a quick shot and he would most likely be willing.

Ruiz=I know people would hate it....but again...in Europe he has garnered interest in his close fights with Valuev and Chagaev. He is a known commodity there and despite people's hate for him....he would be willing and his difficult "style" might make for an ugly but decent fight for a few rounds.

Povetkin=Rock and Haye pretty well muscled their way past Povetkin in the Wlad sweepstakes.....if I remember correctly he was supposed to be given a shot awhile back.

Golota=This would be a decent Euro commodity....and...despite his last outing (which I think was a legit arm tear) he was on a role. If the arm is healed and he is ready....he's as good as any.

Oleg Maskiev= Old solid name....still a decent levle of talent despite the age...could give Wlad a few rounds.

Meehan, Williamson....


KEEP IN MIND....I'm in no way cheerleading for any of these bouts.....I'm just keeping the venue and fans in mind.

The list of solid, named HW commodities is shrinking by the year.

Sure there are a few young guys that could get the nod....Chambers, Arreola, etc. BUT...they have just come off bouts or have one set up...and really IMHO have just about as much chance as any of the guys I listed above.



Holyfield- No way. Would not be the slight bit competative, Klit would destroy him. Though maybe it is what Evander needs.
Ruiz- I guess I could go with this one.
Povetkin- Def would be okay with him.
Golota- Fuck no! He is so washed up. I seen him live on the Jones-Trinidad undercard struggle bigtime. He looked like a shell of himself. Total shellacking.
Maskaev- Nope. Terrible chin and Wlad would KO him within 3 rounds. Would prove nothing.

Not ridiculing your choices either, just my thoughts. I just would rather have a fresh face get in there with Wlad. Povetkin, Chambers, Arreola, Johnson, etc. would be better IMO. But hopefully he just waits on Haye.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (BGv2.0 @ Jun 5 2009, 05:44 AM) *
If Haye is simply asking for a postponement.....I think Wlad should consider it, as he and his brother refuse to fight at anything less than 100%.


Very good point. If one them gets a ingrown hair on their vagina they postpone a fight.
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jun 5 2009, 02:19 AM) *
Very good point. If one them gets a ingrown hair on their vagina they postpone a fight.


What are you talking about? Vitali's track record for going through with fights is..................................................nevermind.
JonnyBlaze
QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jun 5 2009, 01:22 AM) *
What are you talking about? Vitali's track record for going through with fights is..................................................nevermind.

Vitali had career ending injuries..For his height,running is one of the roughest things on his body..Running is what caused the injuries too..It got really ridiculous but I feel he wanted to get back in there.He was just hoping the injury had gone away..Vitali is not scared to fight anyone..
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Jun 5 2009, 06:38 AM) *
Vitali had career ending injuries..For his height,running is one of the roughest things on his body..Running is what caused the injuries too..It got really ridiculous but I feel he wanted to get back in there.He was just hoping the injury had gone away..Vitali is not scared to fight anyone..


Vitali is a big vagina. Fuck the prick if he is too big poor diddums should not run then he should keep taking the cawk up his clacker like his brother.




Yes they are incestuous homosexuals

JonnyBlaze
Lamon Brewster will do that to ya..That dude can hit!!!

Most hate the Klitchkos it seems..
MarzB
QUOTE (Maxy @ Jun 3 2009, 12:47 PM) *
If he's injured, he's injured. What is he supposed to do? Take the biggest fight of his life with only one good hand? Come on man, give the guy the benefit of the doubt. I'm pretty certain he'll get this fight rescheduled on the same terms as soon as he's fit.


Exactly. I don't understand why some people here are SOOO quick to call anyone that does something they find disagreeable a "pussy" when at the time all the facts aren't known. I will say this though, had this "injury" happened to Wlad, Haye would have DEFINITELY ran off the mouth of what a "pussy" Wlad is.

So I give Wlad credit for not going that route. The "Setanta" (sp?) theory is very interesting.

I saw a comment from Wlad yesterday (while I give him props in one instance, he messes it all up) that had me shaking my head. It was regarding HAYE asking for a postponement.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jun/0...dimir-klitschko

QUOTE
Haye has asked for a postponement of "six to eight weeks" according to a source at Setanta but this was discounted by Klitschko who insisted: "He was ­challenging me and now he's backing out. I definitely will proceed on 20 June. I have to. That's my wish.

"I've been waiting for this David Haye for half of the year so now I have no opponent so we will look for somebody else. There is a saying, 'Dogs are barking but the caravan keeps going'."


Who does he (Wlad) think he's kidding here?? "HE's been WAITING" for HAYE for half this year but his mgmt group are the ones that inserted some of the most ridiculous provisions in a contract I've ever seen but "HE" wanted the fight?? On the same token, it's obvious this fight is bigger than any of the other HEAVYweights so whats wrong with a small delay??


Summary.. Guy who's hurt asks for a delay.


Uninjured guy doesn't want to grant the "hurt" guy an extension or postponement but wants to fight someone else.


Based on that, who's the real "pussy" here??


I see theres another update on my RSS feed, so hopefully Wlad ('s people) have accepted an extension.










BGv2.0
QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jun 5 2009, 01:15 AM) *
Holyfield- No way. Would not be the slight bit competative, Klit would destroy him. Though maybe it is what Evander needs.
Ruiz- I guess I could go with this one.
Povetkin- Def would be okay with him.
Golota- Fuck no! He is so washed up. I seen him live on the Jones-Trinidad undercard struggle bigtime. He looked like a shell of himself. Total shellacking.
Maskaev- Nope. Terrible chin and Wlad would KO him within 3 rounds. Would prove nothing.

Not ridiculing your choices either, just my thoughts. I just would rather have a fresh face get in there with Wlad. Povetkin, Chambers, Arreola, Johnson, etc. would be better IMO. But hopefully he just waits on Haye.



But really...the "fresh" faces you list....have about as much chance as any of those I mentioned. Arreola might be exciting for a second or two....but the guy just came off a fight...I really doubt he would be ready to step in the ring at this time.

The list I came up with is based on name value moreso than youth and rights for a title shot value. Which is what you have to think of in terms of how many ticket holders there are at the moment. Say what you will but Haye's mouth and antics REALLY sold this fight. I don't think a crowd expecting to see this fight is going to be happy with Wlad/Chambers.

The only decent substitute IMHO is a named commodity that has either a long history (Holyfield), a decent punch (Oleg) or a combination of both (Golota) or is well known and respected by the Euro fans (Ruiz/Povetkin).

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