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Box in Hand
I know we might be getting tired of talking about the same fighters but this Freddie Roach's interview was very interesting. He seems a little bold in his assesment of the Mayweather vs. Pac fight and I'm curious to see what you all think.


Freddie Roach – Dave, everywhere I go that’s all that I am asked, when will Manny fight Mayweather?

DT – Kayo?

FR – Easily. He presents no problem for Manny. He is too small and fragile for Manny. He doesn’t have the skills to hurt my fighter. Manny will break him apart before he knocks him out.

DT – What exactly do you mean by “break him apart.”

FR – The key to beating Mayweather is literally beat him up. You take what you can get. He is elusive but he can’t move his body. He is very quick with head movement. You break his body down, he has bad hands, bad ribs, bad knee and he’s had rotator cuff surgery. This is not a guess it’s the facts, period.

DT – He has won all of his fights and maybe the best two wins were against Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton…..

FR – Dave, hold it there for a moment. I question that ….I think below 140 lbs. he was great and anything above that has been problems. Let’s face it, the De La Hoya fight was at least a draw. Mayweather looked very sluggish. Same with Hatton at 147 lbs. After six rounds Ricky was ahead and then Mayweather took over and won the fight.

DT – The point being?

FR – Look what Manny did to both De La Hoya and Hatton. His victories looked very easy. Mayweather struggled and Manny blitzed through both opponents. You can’t say either fighter was over the hill or a shot fighter. These were the same two opponents that gave Mayweather fits especially early in the fight. Marquez is a very clever opponent that will give Mayweather a tussle. Even though I pick Mayweather to win the fight, it would not surprise me if Marquez won. After all, Mayweather has been off for two years.

DT – So Manny will apply pressure and never let up?

FR – Now you’re beginning to see what will happen in the fight. That’s exactly why Mayweather will be, an easier opponent than Cotto or Mosley or even Marquez. Manny will be applying pressure from the beginning and never let up. He will use both hands and he is certainly the faster fighter. The difference will come in the middle of the fight. Manny is continuing to throw shots from all angles and Mayweather will feel the Kayo.

DT – How did you turn Manny into the best fighter in the sport today?

FR – With a ton of hard work. He now has lots of confidence and by that I mean he is not afraid to stand “toe to toe” without backing out of an exchange. Hard to believe but he now hits just as hard with the right hand as he does with his left hand.

DT – Any weaknesses on Manny’s part?

FR – Not really. He used to rely solely on the left but he will not revert back to his old habits.

DT – If you were Mayweather’s trainer, what advice would you give Floyd against Pacman?

FR – Don’t take this fight! Even though this is the fight that all boxing fans want to see, it would not surprise me to see Mayweather fight Mosley instead of Manny. Why fight a guy you can’t possibly beat?

DT – Anything else?

FR – Manny will be here next week. We can talk then. I would like to say one more thing about the “Pay for View” fights.

DT- Go ahead.

FR – I would like to thank all the fans who support boxing by paying their hard earned cash to purchase these fights. We are all aware that we live in tough economic times and boxing is just one of many venues out there vying for the fans to spend money. Also, I and the crew at WildCard have received a lot of positive feedback from the fans. I would like to thank them for their kind words of support.

Thank you Freddie for giving us such an insightful interview. Good luck with Manny and Amir in their upcoming fights.
thehype
I think he sounds like a guy who knows that there's no way a particular fight is going to happen so he can talk as tough as he wants in order to help build the legacy of his own fighter.

I mean, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is not happening...neither guy wants to split the purse 50/50 so it's just not going to get done any time soon. The only way it happens is if one of them loses and if that happens, the appeal of the fight will be gone anyway so Freddie is free to talk as tough and as confidently as he wants to.

Interestingly enough, he says, "it would not surprise me to see Mayweather fight Mosley instead of Manny." I mean, come on...DUH!!!!! Of course he's going to fight Mosley instead of Manny...Mosley won't want 50/50 so Floyd can make a bigger percentage in that fight. That's just posturing on Freddie's part to make it look like Floyd is afraid to fight Manny. Good move on Freddie's part. Of course, the same could be said about Manny opting to fight Cotto instead of Mosley. In a lot of ways, what Freddie does and says is very calculated and smooth. A lot of fans think he's just this "Aw Schucks" type of trainer, but don't get it twisted...Freddie's a slick, calculating dude who plots behind-the-scenes. He's a chess player and thus far, he's made all the right moves.
Keith
I used to kinda like the guy... now I just think he's a dick. Drinking a bit too much of his own kool-aid.
JLUVBABY
mayweather will pick pac apart if that fight ever happens...
DavidThaKing
Freddie Roach is talking out of his ass he thinks he is a fuckin physic or something because he predicted a couple fights he dont know shit Floyd would fuck Pacquiao up hands down let em tell you that Floyd's hand hurtin and his ribs hurtin but if Pacquiao gets in the ring with Floyd Mayweather his ass is going to hurting beleave that the only reason this fuckin joke is talking is because Cotto is about to knock Manny's ass out and he wants to make Cotto seem harder than Mayweather but Floyd would whoop Cotto's ass to i wish Freddie Roach would get in the ring with Floyd Mayweather Sr. or Roger Mayweather so they can knock Roach ass out i used to have respect for Roach but now i have non he talking all this shit he used never say anything now he fainally got some heart and then this mothafucka wanna say oh thank you to the ppv buyers tryna get some more sales Freddie Roach is a bitch Manny Pacquiao is a good fighter he aint the best in the world Floyd is the best and after he whoop Marquez ass something that Pacquiao could barley do he going to whoop Pacquiao ass if Pacquiao dont get ass knocked out by Cottto first thats why Freddie Roach said dont take the fight thats why he stuck on the 50/50 thats why he got Manny fighting these guys at catchweights if Pacquiao was as good as they say he is he could go up to 147 and whoop Cotto or Mosley but no he draning fighters because thats how he beats them Roach you can fool all the others who just stared watching boxing but you cant fool me and all the pacfans can blame Freddie Roach because when Floyd see's this interview i guarentee i promise i put it on eveerything thats Pacquiao's ass
Box in Hand
QUOTE (thehype @ Jul 29 2009, 09:43 AM) *
I think he sounds like a guy who knows that there's no way a particular fight is going to happen so he can talk as tough as he wants in order to help build the legacy of his own fighter.

I mean, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is not happening...neither guy wants to split the purse 50/50 so it's just not going to get done any time soon. The only way it happens is if one of them loses and if that happens, the appeal of the fight will be gone anyway so Freddie is free to talk as tough and as confidently as he wants to.

Interestingly enough, he says, "it would not surprise me to see Mayweather fight Mosley instead of Manny." I mean, come on...DUH!!!!! Of course he's going to fight Mosley instead of Manny...Mosley won't want 50/50 so Floyd can make a bigger percentage in that fight. That's just posturing on Freddie's part to make it look like Floyd is afraid to fight Manny. Good move on Freddie's part. Of course, the same could be said about Manny opting to fight Cotto instead of Mosley. In a lot of ways, what Freddie does and says is very calculated and smooth. A lot of fans think he's just this "Aw Schucks" type of trainer, but don't get it twisted...Freddie's a slick, calculating dude who plots behind-the-scenes. He's a chess player and thus far, he's made all the right moves.



Good post Hype. I have to admit, I always thought Freddie was dumb. Maybe it was his Parkinson's but he just didn't seem all too bright to me. I've come to see him as being one of the more intelligent trainers in the game as of late. I know that Floyd has some injuries but to say he isn't a threat to Manny in my opinion is going to piss Floyd off and make him push for that fight. Floyd is a threat to any fighter.
provo
Yeah he's full of shit ! Mayweather would pick him apart easily would counter all day on pac and he knows it !
Roach has been talking shit lately its time for someone to shut his mouth and if this was ever to happen ! He would get his ass chewed out by fLoyd and Roger LOL..
ROACH NEEDS 2 SHUT UP ! How would manny win by putting pressure on the best defensive fighter LOL , who wants that and will counter all day mayweaher has a wider stance than usual that's why he is so effective
provo
Roach Vs Floyd sr or Roger !LOL that would be tight ,either one of them would kick his ass !
I can just imagine a press conference and roger be like" hoW bout u and me get in the ring white boy 'I kick yo ass" LOL..
I think its roach's parkinsons or maybe all them ass beatings he took his carrer that is catching up 2 him !

FIGHTHYPE! When's the Floyd Jr interview Coming !!!!I can't wait to hear what PBF has got to say!
iron_mike
QUOTE (provo @ Jul 29 2009, 02:26 PM) *
Roach Vs Floyd sr or Roger !LOL that would be tight ,either one of them would kick his ass !
I can just imagine a press conference and roger be like" hoW bout u and me get in the ring white boy 'I kick yo ass" LOL..
I think its roach's parkinsons or maybe all them ass beatings he took his carrer that is catching up 2 him !

FIGHTHYPE! When's the Floyd Jr interview Coming !!!!I can't wait to hear what PBF has got to say!



Stop swinging off Floyd's sack and be patient
Method
Roach can say whatever he wants about what Paq did to Hatton & DLH versus what Mayweather did to Hatton & DLH, but the indisputable FACT is that Team Paq made Hatton and DLH emaciate themselves to make weight while Mayweather stepped up to 154 to face DLH, and faced Hatton at 147.
Box in Hand
I just read this article for the third time and it gets crazier each time I read it. Mayweather doesn't have the skills to beat Manny? Is he looney? May is one of the most highly skilled fighters out today. He's too small? Wow, thats insane. He's only too small if they dehydrate him like they do all of the other guys they fight these days. Roach also makes it seem like May is too torn down and slow for Manny. I've never heard Roach talk like this. He always seemed humble which is what I liked about him. Maybe it's like Hype said, he's playing mental chess but damn, that move is like putting your Queen next to the pawn to get taken.
Big Slim Sweet
QUOTE (Method @ Jul 29 2009, 02:58 PM) *
Roach can say whatever he wants about what Paq did to Hatton & DLH versus what Mayweather did to Hatton & DLH, but the indisputable FACT is that Team Paq made Hatton and DLH emaciate themselves to make weight while Mayweather stepped up to 154 to face DLH, and faced Hatton at 147.

Hatton had been at 140 his whole career except for the Mayweather and Collazo fights. He was the champ there, he didn't emaciate himself for the Pacquaio fight (any more than he did for any previous 140 fight).

And c'mon. Team Paq didn't make DLH do anything. DLH wanted that fight and offered to go down to make it happen. Pac had only fought one time above 130 back then.

I give Mayweather more credit either way for his DLH fight. He went up and fought DLH in his comfort zone of 154. But Pac fought Hatton at Hatton's best weight whereas PBF didn't.
leonthegee
roach is on crack.
JLUVBABY
roach is just reading the headlines on his fighter and getting big headed.... cotto is gonna derail that pacman lil floyd train... and roach will be humbled with his glasses on crooked... cotto will beat pac.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (thehype @ Jul 29 2009, 03:43 PM) *
I think he... made all the right moves.


Jesus some of you are suckers. That is a fake interview. When have you ever heard of Roach talking like that?

There is one born every minute I suppose but seriously if that was a Mayweather interview I would but it but I have never heard Freddy talk like that.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Method @ Jul 29 2009, 08:58 PM) *
Roach can say whatever he wants about what Paq did to Hatton & DLH versus what Mayweather did to Hatton & DLH, but the indisputable FACT is that Team Paq made Hatton and DLH emaciate themselves to make weight while Mayweather stepped up to 154 to face DLH, and faced Hatton at 147.



Off the nutsack Meth.

Hatton's natural & best weight is 140 where his last fight before Pac was. How was he emaciated then? PBF made him step up to a weight he had previously shown he did not look good at by any stretch.

As for DLH Pac was coming up from 135 & DLH was coming down from 154 & had previously fought at 150 ish. DLH chose to weigh in light & there is no way Pac made DLH weigh in light.

Off the crack guys & time to deal with reality.

I see how Pac is being a tool over Cotto weighing in at 145 but both the guys listed above were either fighting at their best weight or chose to come down to a weight they had not seen in years.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 29 2009, 11:32 PM) *
Well it was written Stevenski. I don't think they would actually write how he actually talks. Did you think they were going to write it like this;

"I....th....th....thi....think Manny......w...www......wi....will......knock......May.weather out"?


You know what I mean Fitz.


There is no credit for the interview or where it came from. It seems very much like the Calzaghe one a few months ago.

Someone show me the link to the actual interview with a credible site or magazine & I will believe it otherwise I am calling it BS.
DavidThaKing
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 29 2009, 07:21 PM) *
Jesus some of you are suckers. That is a fake interview. When have you ever heard of Roach talking like that?

There is one born every minute I suppose but seriously if that was a Mayweather interview I would but it but I have never heard Freddy talk like that.



this interview is not fake http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Tyler072909.htm

Freddie Roach mouth wrote a check his ass can't cash and we know who cash the checks in boxing

torvix2000
QUOTE (DavidThaKing @ Jul 30 2009, 12:52 AM) *
this interview is not fake http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Tyler072909.htm

Freddie Roach mouth wrote a check his ass can't cash and we know who cash the checks in boxing


LOL! DoghouseBoxing!!! Hahaha!
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (DavidThaKing @ Jul 30 2009, 12:52 AM) *
this interview is not fake http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Tyler072909.htm

Freddie Roach mouth wrote a check his ass can't cash and we know who cash the checks in boxing



Well doghouse is a highly credible news outlet so I guess you are right.

Second what Freddy said is exactly correct about Floyd.

He has great head movement but he cannot move his body & it is a target. The way to beat Floyd is pressure pressure pressure. Manny brings that pressure.
provo
Did Stevenski say a fake interview LOL, ok yeah guys were all in this thread talking about a fake interview but we all read it lol
Bottom line roach is full of shit ! He knows floyd is the biggest threat.
Now as far as pacs win against hatton ! Its a lot easier to knock someone out after he's been knocked out ! " I bet they watched the floyd fight over and over ! And pacs fight against Oscar ,oscar was in no way to fight . And they used 8oz gloves .
Man I hope cotto kicks pacs ass!
The CEO
lol...I think STEVENSKI's on a bender, and Hype's assessment was spot on....

I personally stopped liking Roach a long time ago...
DavidThaKing
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 29 2009, 08:03 PM) *
Well doghouse is a highly credible news outlet so I guess you are right.

Second what Freddy said is exactly correct about Floyd.

He has great head movement but he cannot move his body & it is a target. The way to beat Floyd is pressure pressure pressure. Manny brings that pressure.



how many fighters have tried to put pressure on Floyd? 39
and how many fighters have came out victorious doing it? 0





provo
Pressure ,pressure floyd yeah that's what everyone believes ! LOL, he don't fold under pressure that is everyones gameplan against him and it don't work ! LOL floyd is a counter puncher and defensive specialist and a smart patient fighter ! He would kill pac if pac pressured him , floyd has a wide stance and rolls with the punches and is able to counter ,the way to get to floyd is make him come at u! His stance wouldn't be so wide he would have to stand up higher than he is used 2 and throw , then u would be able to jab and mover and try and counter on him and get the hell out...lol
These trainers gotta stop watching castillos fight with floyd LOL "oh that's all they have " its been years !!
Ca'mon roach your full of shit!
And to make this fight happen both fighters should agree on 40 percent and the winner gets the extra 20 percent! So there for the winner gets 60 -40!
And that would be Floyd !
Box in Hand
QUOTE (DavidThaKing @ Jul 29 2009, 06:52 PM) *
this interview is not fake http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Tyler072909.htm

Freddie Roach mouth wrote a check his ass can't cash and we know who cash the checks in boxing



Thanks D, I was gonna back track and post the link. Yeah this came from Roach's mouth.
Box in Hand
QUOTE (provo @ Jul 29 2009, 07:25 PM) *
Pressure ,pressure floyd yeah that's what everyone believes ! LOL, he don't fold under pressure that is everyones gameplan against him and it don't work ! LOL floyd is a counter puncher and defensive specialist and a smart patient fighter ! He would kill pac if pac pressured him , floyd has a wide stance and rolls with the punches and is able to counter ,the way to get to floyd is make him come at u! His stance wouldn't be so wide he would have to stand up higher than he is used 2 and throw , then u would be able to jab and mover and try and counter on him and get the hell out...lol
These trainers gotta stop watching castillos fight with floyd LOL "oh that's all they have " its been years !!
Ca'mon roach your full of shit!
And to make this fight happen both fighters should agree on 40 percent and the winner gets the extra 20 percent! So there for the winner gets 60 -40!
And that would be Floyd !



This is on the money Provo.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 30 2009, 12:11 AM) *
I know what you meant Stevenski, but not even a laugh out of you? I thought it was cruel/funny, something you would appreciate. I was mistaken. Haha.



It is funny don't get me wrong. Hell I laughed at the Ali shuffle during the 96 Olympics saying he has not shuffled like that for years.

QUOTE (DavidThaKing @ Jul 30 2009, 12:25 AM) *
how many fighters have tried to put pressure on Floyd? 39
and how many fighters have came out victorious doing it? 0


Well JLC did beat him with pressure & got jobbed on the scorecards.
D-MARV
QUOTE
Hatton had been at 140 his whole career except for the Mayweather and Collazo fights. He was the champ there, he didn't emaciate himself for the Pacquaio fight (any more than he did for any previous 140 fight).




QUOTE
Hatton's natural & best weight is 140 where his last fight before Pac was. How was he emaciated then? PBF made him step up to a weight he had previously shown he did not look good at by any stretch.


Mayweather did Hatton a HUGE favor by having the fight at 147.
provo
Thanks box in hand ! Someone who see's the truth!
I bet this is marquez gameplan to Pressuse ,pressure floyd ..LOL... Floyd wins by tko!
Roach was wrong last time against floyd and would fail again! Oscar at 154 has way better BOXING skills than pac at any weight! And it didn't work ! Floyd will kill pac and he knows it !
Box in Hand
QUOTE (provo @ Jul 29 2009, 07:56 PM) *
Thanks box in hand ! Someone who see's the truth!
I bet this is marquez gameplan to Pressuse ,pressure floyd ..LOL... Floyd wins by tko!
Roach was wrong last time against floyd and would fail again! Oscar at 154 has way better BOXING skills than pac at any weight! And it didn't work ! Floyd will kill pac and he knows it !



Marquez and everyone else's gameplan is based on the first Castillo fight. Marquez is looking to pound Floyd into submission but that's just not going to work. He will adapt to the pressure even if it takes him 6 rounds to figure a way. Floyd is paitent. I just think Roach is a little off on this one. I'm kind of shocked at his ego these days.
DavidThaKing
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 29 2009, 08:30 PM) *
It is funny don't get me wrong. Hell I laughed at the Ali shuffle during the 96 Olympics saying he has not shuffled like that for years.



Well JLC did beat him with pressure & got jobbed on the scorecards.



so obviously that pressure shit dont help if you dont win on the scorecards i mean come on give the Castillo fight up Floyd won the fight he moved up in weight and was fighting with one arm and still beat him and to prove he was the superior fighter he fought him again and beat him again plus that was years ago Floyd was 27-0 when he first fought Castillo he 39-0 now he is much better has alot more experince so everyone needs to try to find a diffrent way to beat Floyd than pressure

just think when you do something for a long time you get good at it and guys are always trying to put pressure on Floyd you don't think he knows how to handle that by now thats everybodys gameplan and Pacquiao is to short he would be to easy for Mayweather to counter in order to beat Floyd you need a tall fighter with a great jab not a short one that throws alot punches
D-MARV
QUOTE (DavidThaKing @ Jul 29 2009, 09:39 PM) *
Floyd won the fight he moved up in weight and was fighting with one arm and still beat him

That doesn't get you any credit around here. You have to move up and suck the other fighters down. That's what you have to do to get any props.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (DavidThaKing @ Jul 30 2009, 01:39 AM) *
so obviously that pressure shit dont help if you dont win on the scorecards i mean come on give the Castillo fight up Floyd won the fight he moved up in weight and was fighting with one arm and still beat him and to prove he was the superior fighter he fought him again and beat him again plus that was years ago Floyd was 27-0 when he first fought Castillo he 39-0 now he is much better has alot more experince so everyone needs to try to find a diffrent way to beat Floyd than pressure


It is what is called getting jobbed by the judges. Anyone that knows how to score a fight sees that was a clear 8-4 maybe 7-5 win for Castillo. The second fight I had a draw.

It is like Ali getting a gift over Norton twice. It is not forgotten nor should it be & this won't be forgotten in a hurry.
Box in Hand
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QUOTE (damarvelous1 @ Jul 29 2009, 08:43 PM) *
That doesn't get you any credit around here. You have to move up and suck the other fighters down. That's what you have to do to get any props.

Box in Hand
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 29 2009, 08:53 PM) *
It is what is called getting jobbed by the judges. Anyone that knows how to score a fight sees that was a clear 8-4 maybe 7-5 win for Castillo. The second fight I had a draw.

It is like Ali getting a gift over Norton twice. It is not forgotten nor should it be & this won't be forgotten in a hurry.



You had the second fight a draw? Man, hate really does cloud the judgement.
D-MARV
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 29 2009, 09:53 PM) *
It is what is called getting jobbed by the judges. Anyone that knows how to score a fight sees that was a clear 8-4 maybe 7-5 win for Castillo. The second fight I had a draw.

It is like Ali getting a gift over Norton twice. It is not forgotten nor should it be & this won't be forgotten in a hurry.

Anyone that knows how to score a fight could see the Floyd won the second fight close but clear. Last time I watched the first fight I scored it for Castillo by 2 points.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Jul 30 2009, 02:55 AM) *
You had the second fight a draw? Man, hate really does cloud the judgement.



QUOTE (damarvelous1 @ Jul 30 2009, 02:58 AM) *
Anyone that knows how to score a fight could see the Floyd won the second fight close but clear. Last time I watched the first fight I scored it for Castillo by 2 points.


No I just call it how I see it. I had it a draw I can see people scoring it for Floyd by a point or two but no more. The first fight was a clear win for JLC IMO.
Keith
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 29 2009, 10:27 PM) *
No I just call it how I see it. I had it a draw I can see people scoring it for Floyd by a point or two but no more. The first fight was a clear win for JLC IMO.


Agreed, the first fight was a robbery, outside of the first few rounds PBF did very little.

If I may go back to something mentioned earlier, the way to beat PBF isnt by pressuring him ... its by landing more powerful punches then he is able to handle. Maybe that has something to do with pressure but Judah wasnt "pressuring" him and he looked awful good for a bit. DLH worked pretty well behind a good jab for half a fight. Those are the 2 recent exaples where I felt PBF looked beaten and neither of them reaked of "pressure".
STEVENSKI
I feel that a consistant body attack is the way to go. If you head hunt with PBF he WILL make you look stupid as he has excellent upper body & head movement. That said he cannot move his body only defend it & BBQ his liver to get to the head. Even if you hit his arms it still hurts & makes it harder for him to keep them up.

That is the biggest mistake people make with Floyd they seem intent on going after his head when they should concerntrate on the body & once that is medium rare then go for the head.
leonthegee
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 29 2009, 07:48 PM) *
I feel that a consistant body attack is the way to go. If you head hunt with PBF he WILL make you look stupid as he has excellent upper body & head movement. That said he cannot move his body only defend it & BBQ his liver to get to the head. Even if you hit his arms it still hurts & makes it harder for him to keep them up.

That is the biggest mistake people make with Floyd they seem intent on going after his head when they should concerntrate on the body & once that is medium rare then go for the head.


that goes both ways. do u think mannys gonna be able to shoot in and out at mays body without getting punished for it? hes not big enough to back may up so hows he suspoded to pull it off? sounds like a bunch of wishful thinking if u ask me. but like roger says, "he can always get lucky." but i dont see it.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (leonthegee @ Jul 30 2009, 04:29 AM) *
that goes both ways. do u think mannys gonna be able to shoot in and out at mays body without getting punished for it? hes not big enough to back may up so hows he suspoded to pull it off? sounds like a bunch of wishful thinking if u ask me. but like roger says, "he can always get lucky." but i dont see it.


Of course it goes both ways. Mayweather has never dealt with a guy with the explosive speed, pop & focus of Pac & Pac has enough to get May's respect.
leonthegee
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 29 2009, 08:55 PM) *
Of course it goes both ways. Mayweather has never dealt with a guy with the explosive speed, pop & focus of Pac & Pac has enough to get May's respect.


please bro two years ago this bum barely got passed marquez. not in floyds league this fights not even close.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (leonthegee @ Jul 30 2009, 06:03 AM) *
please bro two years ago this bum barely got passed marquez. not in floyds league this fights not even close.



You seem to be just as stupid as another Leon the grub from a 23rd rate boxing site. We will see how Floyd deals with Marquez as if this "bum" barely beat Marquez then Floyd should get him out of there inside a round.
leonthegee
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 29 2009, 09:09 PM) *
You seem to be just as stupid as another Leon the grub from a 23rd rate boxing site. We will see how Floyd deals with Marquez as if this "bum" barely beat Marquez then Floyd should get him out of there inside a round.


dude please u and ur floyd mayweather jr hate wagon. how freakin lame is that? dont they anything better to do down under? i guess not besides what could u possibly know about boxing ur best boxer came from freakin russia.
King Eugene
QUOTE (leonthegee @ Jul 30 2009, 01:19 AM) *
dude please u and ur floyd mayweather jr hate wagon. how freakin lame is that? dont they anything better to do down under? i guess not besides what could u possibly know about boxing ur best boxer came from freakin russia.

LMAO
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Dont forget about Mundine!
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (leonthegee @ Jul 30 2009, 05:19 AM) *
dude please u and ur floyd mayweather jr hate wagon. how freakin lame is that? dont they anything better to do down under? i guess not besides what could u possibly know about boxing ur best boxer came from freakin russia.


That is debatable smarty. I consider our finest fighter to be Jeff Fenech. A undefeated 3 division champion who got robbed of a 4th world title in a 4th weight class. Unlike other so called chamipons he defended his belts & went after the best competition he could.

He rightly should be the first UNDEFEATED 4 division world champion.



Keith
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 29 2009, 11:48 PM) *
I feel that a consistant body attack is the way to go. If you head hunt with PBF he WILL make you look stupid as he has excellent upper body & head movement. That said he cannot move his body only defend it & BBQ his liver to get to the head. Even if you hit his arms it still hurts & makes it harder for him to keep them up.

That is the biggest mistake people make with Floyd they seem intent on going after his head when they should concerntrate on the body & once that is medium rare then go for the head.


That sounds right to me. There is a welter that has good hand speed, a granite chin, and is pretty famous for attacking the body...
rusty_trombone
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 30 2009, 12:55 AM) *
Of course it goes both ways. Mayweather has never dealt with a guy with the explosive speed, pop & focus of Pac & Pac has enough to get May's respect.

yeah, i agree. I think the mayweather-pac fight would definitely be interesting. Not sure if it would be entertaining, but I think it would be obviously the toughest fight in both of their careers.
Big Slim Sweet
QUOTE (DavidThaKing @ Jul 29 2009, 08:39 PM) *
Floyd won the fight he moved up in weight and was fighting with one arm and still beat him

QUOTE (damarvelous1 @ Jul 29 2009, 08:43 PM) *
That doesn't get you any credit around here. You have to move up and suck the other fighters down. That's what you have to do to get any props.

I think Floyd gets credit for moving up to face CastiLLIo. And for fighting hurt. Just not so much for 'winning' that first fight.

I was rooting for Floyd that night (believe it or not I used to be a fan) but definitley felt he got lucky with the decision.
Big Slim Sweet
QUOTE (keith @ Jul 30 2009, 06:08 AM) *
That sounds right to me. There is a welter that has good hand speed, a granite chin, and is pretty famous for attacking the body...

No doubt about it. I see him every time you post.
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