QUOTE (Spyder @ Aug 19 2009, 02:28 AM)
When people that are in the sport make those comments, that's when I take notice.
Well make sure you read what Paulie had to say on the home page then! lol
QUOTE (Byrd Man @ Aug 18 2009, 11:51 PM)
I had this thought tonight while reading an article about the Heavyweight division. I've long heard people talk about how Boxing is dead, and it becomes clear that they're mainly referring to the Heavyweight division. As if that's the only division in the sport. I realize that that's the premiere viewed division, but still....
And on Talk Radio I often hear these jackasses that trash boxing repeatedly and say things like "well nobody knows who these guys are" or "they're all foreign fighters who no one can pronounce their names" and shit like that.
And I wonder....how big a role does bigotry play? Perhaps racism as well. Everyone that feels that way is obviously not racist, I understand. But I wonder how big a role that plays, in the idea of the reasons that are given as to why boxing is dying.
I mean a lot of the excuses people give for the heavyweight's decline smacks of bigotry, or at the very least anti-anything but the USA.
If they were four moderately known AMERICAN fighters, would the same people be trashing Boxing talking about it's dying? Or is it because no Americans hold belts, and all the belts are held by Eastern European white guys? And these people keep saying things like "Their names are hard to pronounce" and shit like that.
How hard is it to pronounce "Klitschko" and "Valuev"? Even before names like "Liakhovich" (that might be a bit of a tongue twister for some admittedly), or "Chagaev"?
I wonder about that. I can't be the only one who's thought this.....
Well....you hit a very large portion of it right on the head. Like it or not the sports HW division has ALWAYS been the division that captivates the entire world....for whatever reason. When you have lackluster fighters at that level....very few "casual" fans tend to look at anything related to the sport.
The HW division has been absolute shit for the last 6-7 years (which only adds to the problem....I mean we are nearing a whole decade of a crap division!!!) so that comes into play as well. You have always had instances of less than steller HW's at times....but for it to go this long really adds to the problem.
Also....I don't think it is so much "bigotry" as it is reality. The reality is those names you listed are NOT American and therefore....no....for the average american they are not easy to say....they are nowhere near the ease and familuarity of Lewis, Tyson, Foreman, Holyfield....all of those names are very easy and rooted in American English.
I also have never been a big believer in the theory of bigotry related to the nationality of HW boxers. I honestly think this is a easy out for Klit fans and fans of this current HW state. It allows them to put the blame of the lack of interest in the division and sport onto the fans instead of placing it where it should be....on the fighters.
I don't care if your last name is "Klitchkobeabuchi-mohammed Rahman Ramadan III".........IF you are cleaning people's clocks and knocking them square the fuck out in impressive fashion on a consisitant regular basis.....American fans WILL welcome you with open arms! I have zero doubt about that!
Look at Ike Ibeabuchi....here was a guy that to this day.....still has followers due to his actions in the ring....and he was about as foreign as you could get.
Even Sam Peter had developed a decent fan base based on his ring actions....and as a result of his recent actions (or should I say inactions) here of late....he has lost that support.
So....no I really, honestly do not think bigotry plays a role in the typical, casual fan's mind......to capture them and the general public and the media....your actions in the ring have to speak louder than your last name! lol