QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Sep 15 2009, 05:03 PM)
Call me crazy or biased. Toney below 220, around 210 for my liking, would beat Valuev EASILY. He would frustrated the hell out of the robot Vitali Klit and decision him too. I do not think James could beat Wlad, UNLESS he got some heavy leather on him early and Ko'd him. Toney in recent years has looked like shit for the most part, THAT Toney would not beat any of the Champs(well maybe Valuev, he is absolute garbage).
If Toney came down to 200, I would also pick him to beat any of the cruiserweight champs too. Maybe I am being too positive, but I truly think if he loses a lot of weight(not like Byrd), he will perform alot better. I have no proof for these statements, I am just basing it on his tremendous skills. All of his recent performances are poor mostly due to being fat and severely overweight. He took a good step in the right direction last time out, and hopefully we will see if he has anything to offer. If I am wrong, I will be the first to admit it. IMO it has everything to do with his weight and conditioning. You win the fight in your preparation BEFORE the fight, not the night of the fight.
I have more to say, but off to gym. Oh, I was kidding about the "hater" comment. We all got our opinions, and though I do not totally agree with ya, I see what you are saying about James. I am not a bling hugger.
You are crazy. (as per request) lol
No I think you are rooted in the middle both of being a super fan but also realizing the toll the weight put on him. The one thing missing from your last post is addressing the age.
Even at 200....do you think that at 41 he has anything to really offer. Don't get me wrong....I defend fighters to keep fighting on....as I have always supported Evander continuing on....but Evander though on the smaller side, is much taller and all around bigger than JT and at the very least still offers a decent punch.
I think at 200 lbs....even the dredful Valuev would push him back with thudding jabs due to his short stature.
I think any of those huge HWs would just manhandle him....he MIGHT fair well with Valuev...should he use movement as Holy did and Valuev again decided to not do a single thing....but that is about the only shot I would give him.