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D-MARV
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By Mark Vester

Light heavyweight contender Bernard Hopkins spoke with BoxingScene.com about the sport of Mixed Martial Arts - and Hopkins held nothing back when he expressed his feelings about the UFC craze. Hopkins told BoxingScene's Bill Emes that grown men should not be watching MMA. He says MMA is not a sport, and compared it to a porno movie. According to Hopkins, he would feel "suspect" [possibly gay] if he bought a ticket to watch MMA.

"Everybody is different. I don't want to watch two grown men wrestling with panties on. I'm from the hood, we don't play that. To me, I'm not buying a ticket to watch two grown men with panties on, sweating, [with] nuts in their face. That's not me. To compare that to boxing is ludicrous. It's a porno. It's an entertainment porno," Hopkins told BoxingScene. "I'm not wrestling a guy with panties on and his nuts in my face, and they call that a sport."

Hopkins would also tell BoxingScene that he wouldn't have a problem if MMA had an audience made up of women, but it bothers him that groups of men could get together to watch MMA events.

"I'm not criticizing people for what kind of entertainment they like. I think most of those people have chains and masks in their closets. There is something out there for everybody. I can understand if 90% of women were going to those things but I can't understand a grown man sitting there with a couple of guys watching two grown men with panties on, sweating. That's just my opinion. It's not a good look," Hopkins said.


Thoughts?

God forbid Floyd saying something like this.
torvix2000
LOL!

Do you want to want to watch two grown up men hugging each other on the ground? Shucks!!! The only way they can make up for a fighter's head being positioned on another's scrotum is to maybe add some more allowed types of hit like poke in the eyes, kicking the balls, etc. They are trying to sell MMA as real martial arts or real fighting but it is still restrained. That's why fighters end up on the ground raping each other. And can't do nothing because the type of hit that will allow to break the standstill is not allowed. So, they just hug, kiss, rape each other. Two grown up men.
pcraw
Hopkins is the last fighter to make this claim. Maybe he forgot Joe Calslappy dry humped him after he was on all fours for an alleged low blow. I'm just saying. Hopkins fights have more clinching and hugging then most MMA fights. But that's just my opinion. Hopkins forgot he was from the hood the minute DLH said, "Let's work together!"
King Eugene
QUOTE (pcraw @ Oct 16 2009, 10:55 PM) *
Hopkins is the last fighter to make this claim. Maybe he forgot Joe Calslappy dry humped him after he was on all fours for an alleged low blow. I'm just saying. Hopkins fights have more clinching and hugging then most MMA fights. But that's just my opinion. Hopkins forgot he was from the hood the minute DLH said, "Let's work together!"

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Its funny how some will let a select few get away with saying damn near anything.
Byrd Man
This is mad ignorant. I can't stand MMA, but saying things like this smacks of desperation. Boxing should be better than that, and it's fighters should DAMN sure be better than that.

AussieLad
King Eugene
Does anyone think this may be another Hopkins ploy to draw attention for his next fight? IDK though, he said he wouldn't lose to a white boy during the Calzaghe build up, gave Pavlik all the respect in the world(may have been concerned with his power), but turns around and makes a comment like this before his next fight. I feel like Chris Rock does about rap music..........I like it but its hard as hell to defend. Hopkins was off his rocker on this one.
Snoop
I don't agree with what Hopkins said but the way he said it is pretty fucking funny.
torvix2000
Will we ever see Hopkins kiss Dela Hoya on the lips just like what Ortiz did to White?
kidbazooka1
Hopkins is a fool.

Im an MMA fan but that ground holding sh*t does look gay sometimes.
STEVENSKI
Hopkins is not the sharpest knife in the drawer thats for sure.
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Oct 17 2009, 07:53 AM) *
Hopkins is not the sharpest knife in the drawer thats for sure.


Hopkins wouldnt be the sharpest one in a drawer full of wooden spoons
Snoop
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Oct 17 2009, 06:53 AM) *
Hopkins is not the sharpest knife in the drawer thats for sure.

Actually, besides this one comment, I've found Hopkins to be pretty on point about most things. He's also one of the more well-spoken boxers out there, so I'd have to disagree.
BigG
Not a fan of ground work I think MMA matches are most exciting when they "box" lol.
torvix2000
QUOTE (BigG @ Oct 17 2009, 07:16 AM) *
Not a fan of ground work I think MMA matches are most exciting when they "box" lol.


Yeah! It was exciting when Rampage Jackson was knocking out everybody.
STEVENSKI
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I think most of those people have chains and masks in their closets.


This from a guy who wears a gimp mask? LOL.
Byrd Man
QUOTE (King Eugene @ Oct 16 2009, 08:55 PM) *
Does anyone think this may be another Hopkins ploy to draw attention for his next fight?


OF COURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSE it was!

That's all he does. he gets ready to fight and he says some dumb shit. "ain't no white boy gonna beat me".

He keeps changing his retirement stance over and over. I'm sure his mom won't mind if he fights til he's 60. smh

That's what irritated me the most.

talking about "my mom wanted me to retire before I was 40" and then it was "well I'll fight during the year I'm 40"

And then "well she wouldn't mind if I..."

fuck that shit. Fight or don't fight, but stop playing fucking games. Man up and do what you want.

And stop acting like a bitch trying to get people to watch your fight.
JonnyBlaze
Hahahaha..That shit was funny..I can't say I disagree with him either..I would feel extremely dirty if I was rolling around with a guy in underwear sweating all over me while hes on top of me(right there,sounds like a porn)..hahahaha..All I hope is those guys take a 30 minute shower after their fights..One of my friends does boxing and some MMA and he was tellin me today how the MMA guys have a weird odor to them and he's tapped out while "rolling" just because of dudes smelling so bad..hahaha..I honestly haven't noticed but I don't get on those mats with those guys..

Also,I'm curious how watching these guys "strike" is exciting??Is it because of the smaller gloves or what??I'm not trying to diss the sport since I do like seeing guys being able to throw elbows and knees but I honestly don't watch MMA ever,unless you consider Bully Beatdown MMA(kinda is)..
Nay_Sayer
LOL...
BigG
QUOTE (Byrd Man @ Oct 17 2009, 09:41 AM) *
OF COURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSE it was!

That's all he does. he gets ready to fight and he says some dumb shit. "ain't no white boy gonna beat me".

He keeps changing his retirement stance over and over. I'm sure his mom won't mind if he fights til he's 60. smh

That's what irritated me the most.

talking about "my mom wanted me to retire before I was 40" and then it was "well I'll fight during the year I'm 40"

And then "well she wouldn't mind if I..."

fuck that shit. Fight or don't fight, but stop playing fucking games. Man up and do what you want.

And stop acting like a bitch trying to get people to watch your fight.


LMAO...dude..where is this all coming from?

Yes..I'm sure his mom (RIP) wouldn't mind seeing her son, who came from absolutely NOTHING...being an EX Convict who lived in a bad way.....fight past 40, enhance his legend in the sport that made him, and make alot of money in the process.
AussieLad
Yeah, wouldnt be able to say that bernard hopkins hasnt led an interesting life and done well for himself
dominicbuilder9k1
Hopkin's remark is not good coming from a sportman...this is a very unsportman-like comments...

I like boxing and I like MMA too... I believe fighters from this sports deserve the respect due them, much more the people watching the sport of MMA...

I surmised Hopkins' reason in commenting bad about the people who watch the MMA was because of his connection with the Golden Boy Promotions, a boxing promoter.... No need to criticize those who watch the MMA,...boxing will survive on its own!...

If Hopkins is a gentleman, he will apologize if indeed he uttered those very disgusting remarks...
KookedKrack
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I cosign Hopkin's statement


x Krack
Lil-lightsout
Hopkins is entitled to his own opinion, just like the rest of us are, regardless if you agree or disagree with him. There are many sports that I do not like, and I should not get bashed just because I am stating my opinion. So what if Hops does not like MMA and ridiculed it a little, just the way he feels. Like some others also said, maybe some of his statement has something to do with selling his fight too(getting his name out there).
pcraw
QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Oct 17 2009, 08:28 AM) *
Hopkins is entitled to his own opinion, just like the rest of us are, regardless if you agree or disagree with him. There are many sports that I do not like, and I should not get bashed just because I am stating my opinion. So what if Hops does not like MMA and ridiculed it a little, just the way he feels. Like some others also said, maybe some of his statement has something to do with selling his fight too(getting his name out there).


This is a discussion board. Hopkins is given a bigger stage to voice his opinion, but we (the little people) are giving message boards to voice our opinion. To say MMA is like porn is ignorant and baseless. He doesn't even make a good argument. If 90 % of the crowd was women it would be cool? Come on. This is from a guy as I mentioned who got dry humped by Calzaghe, wears a dominatrix mask to the ring and who was shaking Randy Couture's hand saying how he respects him for fighting in MMA into his 40's much like himself. You have to take Bernard's word with a grain of salt.

The funny thing is the sport of boxing always try to point out how irrelevant MMA is and that it's just a fad, but it's OK for a boxer to bash MMA right before a fight of their own (basically trying to piggy back off of the success). Mayweather did it before the Marquez fight, Hopkins before this fight and Toney did it before a fight. Roy Jones is the only guy that gets it. I respect any fighter whether they are fighting in a cage or ring whether it's MMA or boxing. You would think these fighters know what one another goes through and the sacrifices they take, but I guess not.


pcraw
QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Oct 17 2009, 03:44 AM) *
Hahahaha..That shit was funny..I can't say I disagree with him either..I would feel extremely dirty if I was rolling around with a guy in underwear sweating all over me while hes on top of me(right there,sounds like a porn)..hahahaha..All I hope is those guys take a 30 minute shower after their fights..One of my friends does boxing and some MMA and he was tellin me today how the MMA guys have a weird odor to them and he's tapped out while "rolling" just because of dudes smelling so bad..hahaha..I honestly haven't noticed but I don't get on those mats with those guys..

Also,I'm curious how watching these guys "strike" is exciting??Is it because of the smaller gloves or what??I'm not trying to diss the sport since I do like seeing guys being able to throw elbows and knees but I honestly don't watch MMA ever,unless you consider Bully Beatdown MMA(kinda is)..


Not this again. "How is watching these guys strike exciting?" Have you ever watched an Anderson Silva fight, how about Vitor Belfort, Marcus Davis, etc... If Roy Jones could appreciate the precision of these guys strikes then I'm sure you can. I actually asked Jones about your perfect punch theory when I met him. You can't throw punches the same way when your knuckle isn't protected by 12 oz. of glove. If your only intake of MMA is Bully Beatdown then I can understand why you question the striking.

Also if your buddy tapped because of the odor of a man then he's in the wrong sport. Do you guys consider football GAY????
Snoop
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Oct 17 2009, 07:40 AM) *
This from a guy who wears a gimp mask? LOL.

Coulda been talking about himself. He classifies under "most people". LOL.
rusty_trombone
MMA is definitely one of the more homoerotic sports. He's right these guys were thongs and go skin to skin alot. All sweaty, grinding their manmeats all over each other, trying to mount the other guy. i'm sure at least 1 or 2 times in one of these MMA matches some dude has gotten a boner and rubbed it on his opponent, especially in training.
Snoop
QUOTE (pcraw @ Oct 17 2009, 03:25 PM) *
Not this again. "How is watching these guys strike exciting?" Have you ever watched an Anderson Silva fight, how about Vitor Belfort, Marcus Davis, etc... If Roy Jones could appreciate the precision of these guys strikes then I'm sure you can. I actually asked Jones about your perfect punch theory when I met him. You can't throw punches the same way when your knuckle isn't protected by 12 oz. of glove. If your only intake of MMA is Bully Beatdown then I can understand why you question the striking.

Also if your buddy tapped because of the odor of a man then he's in the wrong sport. Do you guys consider football GAY????

Seriously. If people think MMA is gay, I don't see how a bunch of guys tackling each other in spandex wouldn't be considered gay either. Anyone who calls MMA gay has obviously never fought in the sport. Grappling arts like Judo or Jiu-Jitsu are incredibly difficult and take a similar ethnic of discipline of boxing. Hopkins obviously said those comments for publicity, but I find it funny that any boxer who calls MMA or MMA fighters "gay" would never fight one on their terms.
rusty_trombone
QUOTE (snoopnick @ Oct 17 2009, 11:09 AM) *
Seriously. If people think MMA is gay, I don't see how a bunch of guys tackling each other in spandex wouldn't be considered gay either. Anyone who calls MMA gay has obviously never fought in the sport. Grappling arts like Judo or Jiu-Jitsu are incredibly difficult and take a similar ethnic of discipline of boxing. Hopkins obviously said those comments for publicity, but I find it funny that any boxer who calls MMA or MMA fighters "gay" would never fight one on their terms.

I'm pretty sure the dudes putting on spandex and grabbing each others asses, and getting behind a bent over dud and sticking your hands in his asshole is pretty homoerotic also. at least football players have more gear on, so there's less sweaty man on man grinding(at least outside of the locker room)
pcraw
QUOTE (rusty_trombone @ Oct 17 2009, 10:11 AM) *
I'm pretty sure the dudes putting on spandex and grabbing each others asses, and getting behind a bent over dud and sticking your hands in his asshole is pretty homoerotic also. at least football players have more gear on, so there's less sweaty man on man grinding(at least outside of the locker room)



This is from a guy with nearly 4,000 post. Scary!
Mean Mister Mustard
Whether Hopkins really believes those comments or if he simply made them to get attention, they are still pretty stupid. I don't know what fights he has been watching but guys don't put their crotches on the other's face and just stay there for 30 minutes. Also, since Ken Shamrock, I can't remember the last guy I saw wearing a speedo in MMA, let alone a thong. Thumbs down Hopkins.
anthonyaccurate
I love how people get upset when someone hates something they love or like!
Like a previous poster stated, he gave his opinion, albeit crude, about MMA.
Who cares that Bhop doesn't like MMA, as long as he loves boxing is all I care about. People bash boxing all the time, give me a break....
MarzB
I've always thought that Hopkins generally got a "pass" here so I was curious when this topic would emerge because he said this days ago.

I'm not a fan of MMA at all but I think it's wrong to call it out like this. My biggest problem with his statement is he has/had no problem cheesing and grinning at ANYTHING when the opportunity presents itself. Whether it's how he called out damn near everything about Dela Hoya prior, now his hands is in his ass or to when he's all lovey dovey with Randy Coutoure(sp?)


Then he comes out and says something like this. As much of a fan I am of his,I've seen WAY too many instances that he really is a snake opportunist.
D-MARV
QUOTE (MarzB @ Oct 17 2009, 12:24 PM) *
I've always thought that Hopkins generally got a "pass" here so I was curious when this topic would emerge because he said this days ago.

LOL... Thats why I started this thread. Hopkins does get a pass around for reasons I just never understand. Can you imagine if Floyd made these comments? Anyways, what he said was pretty stupid.
Method
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I don't know what fights he has been watching but guys don't put their crotches on the other's face and just stay there for 30 minutes.


I got two words for y'all...

Joe Son.
Byrd Man
QUOTE (BigG @ Oct 17 2009, 03:19 AM) *
LMAO...dude..where is this all coming from?

Yes..I'm sure his mom (RIP) wouldn't mind seeing her son, who came from absolutely NOTHING...being an EX Convict who lived in a bad way.....fight past 40, enhance his legend in the sport that made him, and make alot of money in the process.


Enhance his legend? He can't enhance it anymore. He's done everything he could possibly do, he's a LEGEND in the game as it is. He's a 1st ballot hall of famer, should be unanimous. He's made Gobs of money, so he doesn't need money. From what I've heard he hasn't blown the money on bullshit, he's handled it the right way.

And he himself said his mother wanted him to stop fighting by the time he was 40. That was his words. Not mine.

Then he said "well, I'll retire when I'm 40" (before the day he turns 41)

Then it's "well, she wouldn't mind if I keep fighting".

Really? That's not what you said before. You said she wanted you to stop fighting by the time you were 40.

I mean if he wants to fight, that's all well and good. but he made a big deal about how his mother wanted him to retire by 40 and then he just shits on that.

A damn shame, in my opinion. He's a grown man so he can do what he wants, but that wasn't cool.

I mean, he told everyone that she MADE HIM PROMISE HER before she died that he would retire by age of 40.
Method
"That whole "I promised my mom" thing was COMPLETE BULLSHIT. A COMPLETE Fabrication. It was a marketing ploy...that backfired. It never really happened.
kidbazooka1
QUOTE (torvix2000 @ Oct 17 2009, 03:39 AM) *
Yeah! It was exciting when Rampage Jackson was knocking out everybody.


Nah Rampage ain't all that. Anderson Silva is the man he's been dominating fools left n right in brutal fashion.

And if Silva/Rampage ever gets made Silva will whoop his ass too guarantee.

Keith
Bernard "Dont drop the soap" Hopkins probably had more homosexual experiences in prison then Couture's career fight total.
rusty_trombone
QUOTE (pcraw @ Oct 17 2009, 12:04 PM) *
This is from a guy with nearly 4,000 post. Scary!

i guess you ignore the constant ass slapping, and the fact a qb puts his hand on a dudes ass every play. not saying they are gay dudes, but football, mma and wrestling are all very homoerotic sports. just calling it how it is.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (pcraw @ Oct 17 2009, 02:25 PM) *
Do you guys consider football GAY????


I consider NFL less manly than real football like rugby league, rugby or AFL most certainly. All that padding & they need a rest every 5 seconds LOL.
Method
They dont hit in Rugby ANYWHERE NEAR the impact that occurs in NFL football.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Keith @ Oct 17 2009, 09:40 PM) *
Bernard "Dont drop the soap" Hopkins probably had more homosexual experiences in prison then Couture's career fight total.


You could tell Nard's bathtime buddies by the two small scars on their shoulder blade. That is where he would mark them with a bite as he dominated them letting the other prisoners know they were now his property.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Method @ Oct 18 2009, 12:11 AM) *
They dont hit in Rugby ANYWHERE NEAR the impact that occurs in NFL football.


They also play without rest breaks & padding ensuring a free flowing & entertaining game unlike NFL. They also don't need padding & helmets because they take the hits & get back up 3 seconds later. Each to their own but NFL is the most pathetic sport of the big 3 in the USA. 3 hours to play 60 minutes of football says it all to me.
Method
...and again, they can do this because they dont hit in rugby ANY WHER NEAR the impact that occurs in the NFL.
torvix2000
QUOTE (kidbazooka1 @ Oct 17 2009, 10:23 PM) *
Nah Rampage ain't all that. Anderson Silva is the man he's been dominating fools left n right in brutal fashion.

And if Silva/Rampage ever gets made Silva will whoop his ass too guarantee.


LOL! As long as I see some serious ass whoopin', it's okay. I just don't like seeing two grown up men on 69 position, smelling each other's cock, on the ground.
BigG
I've practiced Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Wrestling for the past few months I wont diss it and call it gay but a REAL fight is standup in my eyes. It's fun to learn but I'm just not into that shit..I find it boring to watch. This is why I cant stand Brock Lesnar, he has no skills except for takedown. He is a big strong guy but the dude is shit in my eyes he's lucky the comp he's beaten is below avaergae. It's a joke that he's the champ it really shows how fuckin terrible and how much of a joke the HW division in UFC is. I'll just stick to Boxing as my favorite sport where I wont have to deal all the best fights this year have been Boxing fights.
Byrd Man
QUOTE (Method @ Oct 17 2009, 02:17 PM) *
"That whole "I promised my mom" thing was COMPLETE BULLSHIT. A COMPLETE Fabrication. It was a marketing ploy...that backfired. It never really happened.


Whether or not it really happened or not, I don't know and I won't pretend to. however he said it, he put it out there, so people are perfectly within their right to rip the shit out of him for going back on it.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Method @ Oct 18 2009, 01:17 AM) *
...and again, they can do this because they dont hit in rugby ANY WHER NEAR the impact that occurs in the NFL.


Yes but they get up & play the ball straight away rather than have a lil breather or come off the field like in NFL.
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