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caneman
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A friend of mine close to sources in Vegas say that Vegas will not be the venue & either will MSG! The New Orleans Super Dome has offered $10-15 million more than anyone else & has become the front runner to hold the fight. I think the Georgia Dome would better venue but still this is very interesting & he said that The MGM is very pissed off about the whole thing! I can't wait to see if this comes to out to be truth or fiction but IMO some type of Dome could be the best place to hold a fight like this! Maybe we can get Dawson vs Hopkins on the undercard! Thoughts?
caneman
Chit, can I get help from a mod to delete one of these threads, sorry, it was a double post!
JLUVBABY
QUOTE (caneman @ Dec 2 2009, 03:15 PM) *
A friend of mine close to sources in Vegas say that Vegas will not be the venue & either will MSG! The New Orleans Super Dome has offered $10-15 million more than anyone else & has become the front runner to hold the fight. I think the Georgia Dome would better venue but still this is very interesting & he said that The MGM is very pissed off about the whole thing! I can't wait to see if this comes to out to be truth or fiction but IMO some type of Dome could be the best place to hold a fight like this! Maybe we can get Dawson vs Hopkins on the undercard! Thoughts?


as long as this fight gets signed cane im cool.. the n.o is cool too... bout a 2 hour more drive for me to there than dallas but ill be there too.. this is the only fight that makes sense for either fighter... after this bring on mosely for the winner so he can be shut up cuzz they both beat him in my opinion...
thehype
I think a big dome would be fitting...it would be nice to see a boxing event fill up a place like the Super Dome or Cowboys Stadium. I still can't rule out Vegas though...I have a feeling that if they really want it, they'll be able to offer the most money.
Spyder
Cowboys Stadium, with that ridiculous jumbotron hanging in the middle of the field, would be an amazing place to watch a big fight at.
King Eugene
If its at the Georgia Dome nothing will keep me out of that dang building!
mrwigi
i dont care where it is, as long as they are in the ring.
caneman
QUOTE (King Eugene @ Dec 3 2009, 01:58 AM) *
If its at the Georgia Dome nothing will keep me out of that dang building!




I hear that bruh, I could bring so many friends that it would be crazy...20+ people I would say! jluv, I am in Mobile, Alabama right now but flying into Atlanta on Saturday before heading to Atlantic City...With the 4 hour lay-over, I might be a bit drunk be the time I load on the plane! LOLZ!
streetlion1
QUOTE (Spyder @ Dec 2 2009, 10:44 PM) *
Cowboys Stadium, with that ridiculous jumbotron hanging in the middle of the field, would be an amazing place to watch a big fight at.

Agree....its the best possible place!!
Col Reb
If it lands in New Orleans or Dallas, I'd love to organize a fighthype convention/party the night before/day of the fight. That would be a blast for everyone on here to party at the biggest boxing event in years.
Byrd Man
Well this is strange

QUOTE
For unspecified reasons, Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas, is out of the running to host the Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather super fight, Top Rank's Bob Arum told ESPN.com on Wednesday.

Arum, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer, who will co-promote the nearly finalized fight, and HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg were supposed to meet with Cowboys officials at the stadium on Wednesday for a tour of the facility and to talk with Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones about a site fee for the fight.

However, Arum said he received a call from Schaefer on Tuesday night cancelling the trip.

"Richard called me last night and said he won't go to Texas," Arum said. "And I told him to call Ross and tell him. And then I called Ross and said, 'You don't want me to go if he's not going. If Jerry Jones offers me money for the fight what is Pacquiao going to do? Go in the ring alone?' Schaefer just said, 'I'm not going to Texas. I'm not going to the do the fight in Texas. I'm not going to waste my time.' That's the explanation."

Arum said he asked why and Schaefer's response was, " 'The fight is March 13 and there isn't enough time to do a fight at an outdoor stadium.' It's bizarre, but that's what he said. I reminded him [that the stadium has a retractable roof]. He said it doesn't matter. I am not going to theorize. I'm just telling you what happened."

The Cowboys declined to comment when reached by ESPNDallas.com on Wednesday.


Arum, who turned 78 on Tuesday, was having a dinner party for his birthday at his Las Vegas home and was planning to leave at 7:30 a.m. Wednesday.

"I was planning to get up early and then the bombshell happened," Arum said. "Richard called and that's where we are. He may have a real good reason why he wouldn't consider Dallas. The reason he gave me, frankly, makes no sense. Maybe he has another reason that he didn't articulate it to me. But we had airline tickets booked and the three of us planned to rendezvous in Dallas and then go out to the stadium."

Jones is interested in bringing big events to his new stadium -- which could seat as many as 100,000 for a fight -- and landing Pacquiao-Mayweather was one he had in mind.

Greenburg, who was in his office in New York when reached Wednesday, had no comment. The fight will be televised on HBO PPV.

Schaefer wouldn't address the reasons he called off the trip to Texas, telling ESPN.com, "This is a fight our side wants and we are working very hard to finalize it. The next time you hear from us is when we have a signed deal or the negotiations have fallen apart. I want to get a deal done and once a deal is done then we will be available for comments. Until then, there is no comment from our side."

There has been interest from other venues, including the Superdome in New Orleans, although Las Vegas, specifically the MGM Grand, is believed to be the front-runner to host what many believe will be the richest fight in boxing history. The MGM, which has a close relationship with Golden Boy and Top Rank, has hosted several Pacquiao and Mayweather bouts, including their most recent fights -- Mayweather's shutout decision of Juan Manuel Marquez on Sept. 19 and Pacquiao's 12th-round knockout of Miguel Cotto on Nov. 14.

The Miami Dolphins are also interested in hosting the fight at Land Shark Stadium, going so far as to send out e-mails to their season ticket holders to gauge their interest in buying tickets for the event.
Keith
Let me be the first to blame Floyd because its just fun to dump on that guy. He wants the fight in his hometown.
Spyder
It almost sounds like Schaefer doesn't think that the fight will happen. Waste his time?!?

Maybe Floyd is threatening to pull out?
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Keith @ Dec 10 2009, 01:39 AM) *
Let me be the first to blame Floyd because its just fun to dump on that guy. He wants the fight in his hometown.


Grand Rapids? Where he could not sellout a bingo hall? Or his new home Vegas? The fight should be in the Philippines end of.
D-MARV
Las Vegas has always hosted the biggest fights. I don't see why this would be any different.

D-MARV
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Dec 9 2009, 07:58 PM) *
Grand Rapids? Where he could not sellout a bingo hall? Or his new home Vegas? The fight should be in the Philippines end of.

They tried the Philippines and everybody knows Floyd ain't going there.

The fight should be in Las Vegas. End of Story! Pacquiao's last 6 fights have been in Las Vegas... The fight being in Vegas favors no one.
Byrd Man
I think the Vegas Mobsters got to Schaefer. I think they have his wife and kids tied up in a casino vault somewhere and said "this fight is in Vegas."

Suddenly Schaefer calls Arum and starts rambling "Dallas Bad....Waste of time....airplanes....no roof....roof bad....no roof good...."

lol
Mean Mister Mustard
QUOTE (Byrd Man @ Dec 9 2009, 09:03 PM) *
I think the Vegas Mobsters got to Schaefer. I think they have his wife and kids tied up in a casino vault somewhere and said "this fight is in Vegas."

Suddenly Schaefer calls Arum and starts rambling "Dallas Bad....Waste of time....airplanes....no roof....roof bad....no roof good...."

lol


Hahhaha. Yeah if you think about it his excuse makes no sense and it gives the impression that he knows something we don't.

According to Steve Kim over at Maxboxing, he says this is due to the fact that GoldenBoy has, what he calls, an "unholy union" with the MGM and if the fight is not held there it could potentially sour their relationship.
Keith
Stevenski,

Vegas is his hometown imo. He lives there and I think I've heard him refer to it as "my town".
JLUVBABY
QUOTE (Mean Mister Mustard @ Dec 9 2009, 07:11 PM) *
Hahhaha. Yeah if you think about it his excuse makes no sense and it gives the impression that he knows something we don't.

According to Steve Kim over at Maxboxing, he says this is due to the fact that GoldenBoy has, what he calls, an "unholy union" with the MGM and if the fight is not held there it could potentially sour their relationship.


makes sense mustard... i could see that being the case but for the kind of money a arena could bring you would think they could buy there way back into the graces of the mgm... i think this fight easily sales out any dome they bring it too... too many casual fans are interested in the fight...
Mean Mister Mustard
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Dec 9 2009, 09:30 PM) *
makes sense mustard... i could see that being the case but for the kind of money a arena could bring you would think they could buy there way back into the graces of the mgm... i think this fight easily sales out any dome they bring it too... too many casual fans are interested in the fight...


I agree but every town in the U.S wants the fight in their arenas and the MGM knows this will make them a ton of dough so no way they let it go.
paete1611
just dont know if there are enough hotels to accomodate the people. but if it happens there more big fights might be at staples..check this article in la times.

Staples offers 20 million dollars for the fight
Douchebag
The fight would be MAJOR in the philipines. Some historic ish right there. I hate Floyd.
Col Reb
I was hoping this fight would make it to a real stadium. It has the capacity to put tons of fans in the seats; such an event would be great for boxing.Oh well, I guess the politics of Vegas will win out again.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (StyleZ @ Dec 10 2009, 01:01 AM) *
They tried the Philippines and everybody knows Floyd ain't going there.

The fight should be in Las Vegas. End of Story! Pacquiao's last 6 fights have been in Las Vegas... The fight being in Vegas favors no one.


Vegas if Floyd's hometown. What venue in Vegas can accomidate the spectators this fight will draw?
Lil-lightsout
Would have been crazy awesome if they would have this fight in a huge stadium. Way more fans could have witnessed this historic fight live. Yeah well.
D-MARV
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Dec 9 2009, 09:12 PM) *
Vegas if Floyd's hometown. What venue in Vegas can accomidate the spectators this fight will draw?

None. But unfortunately, that's not how it works. The cheapest tckets will be 1000 dollars and the tickets will sell out in 1 hour. I will be watching this fight in my living room so it does not matter to me where they fight.

I agree that Manilla would be HISTORY. they would fill 100,000 with no problem.
Spyder
They would have to mark up the tix to astronomic levels to generate the same revenue in a small Vegas arena.

MGM Grand holds 17,000
Cowboy Stadium... 111,000
STEVENSKI
I will probably watch it down at a pub because I just can't stand te thought of giving Mayweather one cent of my hard earned.
thehype
Vegas...period!
KookedKrack
Philippines would be EPIC but no way Floyd gets a decision out there.
D-MARV
QUOTE (KookedKrack @ Dec 9 2009, 09:35 PM) *
Philippines would be EPIC but no way Floyd gets a decision out there.

Floyd won't need a decision.
D-MARV
Dude, this is like you're 10th thread already... Chill out a little bit.

Jack or any mods... do you want to merge these venue topics? I think there is like 3 floating around already.
mrwigi
i think an event this big needs to be in a big ass stadium.
D-MARV
QUOTE (mrwigi @ Dec 9 2009, 10:17 PM) *
i think an event this big needs to be in a big ass stadium.

Or Vegas. Look at all the "BIG" fights in the past... Cooney-Holmes, Hagler-Hearns, Mayweather-De La Hoya, Leonard-Hearns, Tyson-Holyfield, etc, the list goes on forever. I would love to see this fight sell out 100,00 seats but I don't see why everyone is so against Vegas?

Las Vegas has traditionally been the "Big" Fight venue
KookedKrack
QUOTE (StyleZ @ Dec 9 2009, 10:25 PM) *
Or Vegas. Look at all the "BIG" fights in the past... Cooney-Holmes, Hagler-Hearns, Mayweather-De La Hoya, Leonard-Hearns, Tyson-Holyfield, etc, the list goes on forever. I would love to see this fight sell out 100,00 seats but I don't see why everyone is so against Vegas?

Las Vegas has traditionally been the "Big" Fight venue


Vegas=less seats=more money for seats

Stadium=more seats=less money for seats
Spyder
QUOTE (KookedKrack @ Dec 9 2009, 10:34 PM) *
Vegas=less seats=more money for seats

Stadium=more seats=less money for seats

Exactly.

Don't make this shit so exclusive that Joe the Plumber can't get in. I mean it's cool to see all the celebs at the fights, but I don't want to see them sitting in the "cheap" seats.
JLUVBABY
QUOTE (KookedKrack @ Dec 9 2009, 08:35 PM) *
Philippines would be EPIC but no way Floyd gets a decision out there.


i was thinkin the same thing kooked...
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (KookedKrack @ Dec 9 2009, 09:35 PM) *
Philippines would be EPIC but no way Floyd gets a decision out there.


Floyd would not even make it out alive out there!
thehype
Vegas has got way too much old money too ensure that the fight stays there.

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It's really all about Golden Boy Promotions though and there silent agreement with MGM.
King Eugene
QUOTE (StyleZ @ Dec 9 2009, 10:37 PM) *
Floyd won't need a decision.

Nope but he'll need Obama type security to get out of there if he shall win.
Byrd Man
EXCELLENT article by Steve Kim on why this should be ANYWHERE BUT VEGAS!

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/main-lead/pa...where-but-vegas

The entire thing is great, but I love this bit right here:

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Thereís a train of thought that, for all this city has done for this business, boxing had an obligation to bring this fight there. Hogwash and poppycock, I say (yeah, hogwash and poppycock). First of all, boxing, and the big events it staged, helped put Las Vegas on the map. And many others will tell you that it was instrumental in branding properties like Caesarís Palace in the 70s and 80s. Also, itís not like these casinos never got any financial benefit from hosting these fights. Yes, Vegas has been great for boxing but boxing has also been vital to Vegas, too.

And Las Vegas is struggling, huh? Boo-hoo, cry me a river. Listen, itís not like I donít have empathy for any region thatís hurting economically, but guess what? There are about 500 other cities that are grappling with the downturn in financial fortunes. Why not have this fight in Detroit, then? Letís be honest, this city is staggering because of its own greed and mismanagement. It overbuilt and overleveraged itself. In an ironic twist, it gambled and lost. It shouldnít be boxingís job to provide it with a stimulus package. And have you been to Vegas recently? I donít find it to be all that affordable or cheap, to be honest with you.

Feeling sorry for this city is like feeling sympathetic to the guy who scammed you out of your paycheck on Three-Card Monty.

Last I checked, Vegasí biggest weekend of the year is the Super Bowl. When was the last time this game was in ďSin CityĒ? Pacquiao-Mayweather represents one weekend. That doesnít rebuild any economy. By putting this fight here, all youíre doing is giving these people an opportunity to jack up hotel rooms and everything else for this particular weekend and, trust me, that is what they do. Itís legalized gouging. And for all this talk of just how boxing is propped up by this city, ask promoters how many ďfour-wallĒ deals they have had to do in recent years in Las Vegas.
King Eugene
Am I the only one who thinks this fight would do good in the Arizona Cardinals new facility?
torvix2000
These two should fight in a phone booth.
torvix2000
QUOTE
SCHAEFER PULLS OUT, ARUM SAYS THERE'S SOMETHING FISHY


Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer pulled out of a planned trip with Top Rank promoter Bob Arum and HBO Sports Ross Greenburg to Dallas to meet with Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to discuss his bid to stage the super fight between pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao and former No.1 Floyd Mayweather Jr at the $1.2 billion state-of-the-art Dallas Stadium.

The fight for the ages which has drawn incredible worldwide interest is scheduled for March 13 after Pacquiao signed-off on the deal during a meeting with Arum at the New World Hotel in Makati City last Friday, following a quick trip to the Philippines.

An obviously annoyed Arum told www.insidesports.ph, Standard Today and Viva Sports that Schaefer "called me last night to cancel the trip because he didnít want to do the fight in an outdoor stadium." But Arum pointed out that the Dallas Cowboys stadium which has a 100,000 capacity has a roof that locks into place at the threat of rain and there was no problem.

Arum said "this is crazy. He told me Iím not going to Texas." Arum promptly called Greenburg and said "if he (Schaefer) doesnít go why will I go. Is Pacquiao going into the ring by himself? So we canceled the trip."

Arum described Schaeferís move as "the ruinous, worst thing. We are so embarrassed."

Asked why he thought Schaefer would do that, Arum replied "it's something only he can answer. But something is fishy."

Arum said "I am not going to allow my fighter (Pacquiao) to be deprived of revenue because of some nonsense that Schaefer has schemed up. I donít think Mayweather is a part of this. Maybe thereís some side deal or something like that. It smells. At least go there and give the man (Jones) some respect. Isnít that logical?"

He also revealed that Schaefer had sent him a new draft of a contract which says "the site of the fight shall be the MGM Grand unless Golden Boy decides otherwise. Are they crazy? Even if the fight went away how would you sign that contract? Why should Golden Boy and MGM Grand be mentioned as the site."

Arum said "I understand that the Dallas deal is $10 million better. Thatís $5 million for Manny." He ended our conversation by saying "thatís where we stand today."
Method
This fight should be held at the New Cowboys stadium. No ifs ands or buts. you could fill that fucker with 110,000+, plus that HUGE, HUGE 1080p LCD screen. Would generate a shitload of revenue, and would be HUGE for the sport. HUGE.

But whatever.
MarzB
QUOTE (Method @ Dec 10 2009, 11:02 AM) *
This fight should be held at the New Cowboys stadium. No ifs ands or buts. you could fill that fucker with 110,000+, plus that HUGE, HUGE 1080p LCD screen. Would generate a shitload of revenue, and would be HUGE for the sport. HUGE.

But whatever.


EXACTLY!! I understand TEXAS judging is fucked up but I'm sure they would have gotten some non Texans and since neither fighter is from there or near there, there is no BIAS or perceived.

I tour'd that stadium in the summer and its incredible. If you're going to have a BIG EVENT, why not have a big stage.

You know both Top Rank and Golden Boy (funny how Floyd is getting blamed here when it's Schaefer who did the obvious snub. Forget what Floyd says, surely if Jones is offering more money I'm sure Schaefer could convince floyd to fight in Dallas)

Frankly this to me has more to deal with how VEGAS doesn't want to let this fight go. And oh great, I see the Staples Center is putting their bid in. SIGHING!!!

Why not just say, "celebs, pro athletes, only allowed to attend???" Thats the only people who'll be able to get good seats save for the press anyways.
Byrd Man
Just saw this.....shit's gettin' more interesting.



QUOTE
Bob Arum turns Mayweather-Pacquiao negotiations over to Top Rank's Todd duBoef

Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao wonít fight at Cowboys Stadium, which, in and of itself, was not enough to anger Bob Arum into withdrawing from active participation in the negotiations.

The way Mayweatherís representative made the 11th-hour pronouncement that Dallas is out of the running was, however.

Arum has passed on the negotiating responsibilities for his company, Top Rank Inc., which represents Pacquiao, to Todd duBoef, the companyís president.

duBoef is Arumís stepson and has been groomed for several years as the 78-year-old promoterís successor as chief executive of the boxing promotional company.

In the broad scheme of things, the maneuver holds little significance, although it certainly is symbolic of Arumís distaste for the way the Dallas dismissal happened, with Richard Schaefer, chief executive of Golden Boy Promotions, telling him of the decision hours before their scheduled departure to meet with Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on Wednesday.

Schaefer -- who represents Mayweather in the negotiations but is not empowered to make decisions unilaterally without the fighterís involvement -- did not respond to telephone messages Thursday. His administrative assistant said he would have no comment on any matters related to Mayweather-Pacquiao negotiations until a final deal was struck.

Arumís decision also probably is based, in some part, on his difficult history with Mayweather.

Arum frequently has said he would not allow personal dislike for the Grand Rapids native to interfere with negotiations for the fight, and his withdrawal could be designed for precisely that purpose.

Also Thursday, Pacquiaoís adviser, Michael Koncz, told The Los Angeles Times that an 11th-hour offer by Staples Center to host the fight probably is a non-starter because, by his sideís estimation, state taxation in California could cost the Filipino fighter between $3 million and $5 million.

Several other sites have been considered and dismissed, including the Congo, Dubai, Atlanta, Miami and New Orleans.

That leaves MGM Grand in Las Vegas as the clear-cut frontrunner -- and the longer talks drag out for a fight just more than three months away, the more likely it becomes that MGM will host.
SmartyBeardo
QUOTE (Method @ Dec 10 2009, 10:02 AM) *
This fight should be held at the New Cowboys stadium. No ifs ands or buts. you could fill that fucker with 110,000+, plus that HUGE, HUGE 1080p LCD screen. Would generate a shitload of revenue, and would be HUGE for the sport. HUGE.

But whatever.

I agree. It would be the best venue in the history of mega-fights. I would consider being there specifically because of that monster screen. Most fights in medium to large venues are not worth attending if you can't afford up close seating. Everyone has a front row seat at this venue.

By the way, on a previous thread related to this subject, I suggested the fight be held in Macau. I withdraw that suggestion, given the fact that the biggest venue I know of there holds a maximum of 15,000.
King Eugene
They should do this one for the fans and whats best for the fans is Cowboys stadium. The politics of this sport is some real BS!
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