Floyds nuthuggers (please notice I mention no names) have to some of the most blinkered, awkward, obnoxious, vitriolic and stubborn sports fans iv ever encountered.

Just an observation.

Oh and to Byrdman as usual you can't make your own points when confronted you'll piggyback other ridiculous UNSUBSTANTIATED nonsense but keep talking and I'll pull a collection of your bullschit you've posted that will shut you up, alright??

This thread is Classic! LOL... Marz don''t waste you're time with these guys. They are full blown Floyd Haters or Full blown Pac CUM Lovers... The bottomline is this... The SECOND best fight in the sport will happen on May 1st. The winner will be the undisputed Welterweight champ. As I said all along, Floyd DOES NOT need Pacquiao. Im just glad that Shane finally gets a pay day.

Oh... LMAO at people giving me shit for quoting Ellerbe then they turn around and quote Michael "I want to have Pac's Child" Marley... LOL

Have you just discovered the button to make text bigger in the last couple of weeks?

Come on, their stand is a TREMENDOUS deal and no one denied Shane's boxing acumen. Collazo is a good fighter. I personally like him a lot but he is no where NEAR on the any stratosphere comparable to Mayweather. He doesn't move as well, he's not nearly as good defensively, he's not quick. He's a good boxer with solid fundamentals but he's no where in the league with Floyd thats why I'm scoffing at the comparison. Thats like me saying because Floyd dominated Gatti (a flat footed fighter which Shane often is) he'll do the same to Mosley.

I'll say it again. If Shane has problems with Mayorga's predicable, girly'ish right hand, wait till he sees Mayweather's missile of a straight right.

OK Marz if Freitas was gonna be so easy then why not fight him and clean out the division? He did after all promise to fight him. He didn't have a chance? Oh and guys like Gatti and Brussels did? Like JMM did? Shit you want a tune-up? Go fight a fucking WW like Cintron for example rather than picking on piss drinking midgets.

So Kostya quit on stool against Hatton, not a good look agreed but why didn't he fight Tszyu before the Hatton fight? Shoot I'd even have settled on your hero fighting Casamayor on his way up, yeah Manny ducked him too

Baldomir for sure he's a real welterweight, he's also a real bum who got lucky one night. So fucking what, are you SERIOUSLY trying to pump up the Baldy fight as a decent win? Man you really do like the junk Floyd is selling. Shoot the way he fought Blady that night you'd have think he mixed him up with Carlos Monzon. If your that gullible can I interest you in a timeshare lovely Equitorial Guinea?

This is all too easy for you? Yes you indeed are EASILY proving yourself to be a delusional fruitcake with a giant man crush on Pretty Boy Floyd.

"There's no question we owe him some money," Arum said. "There's no dispute there. But he owes us a lot of money, and the people he's involved with owe us even more. After 98% of the money we owed him was paid, we stopped paying him for a reason.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2008/03

Listen, point blank period Floyd is fighting the man that is regarded as the top ww. Couple months ago yall was up here saying how Floyd was scared and so fuckin terrified when Shane walked in the ring.. was Shane NOT old then?? Or did he just become 38 overnite??? Help me out here.. yall say he scared of the man b/c of what he did to Margo, now he's fighting the man and all of a sudden hes "too old".. 6 months ago I didnt see anybody on this damn website say ANYTHING about Shane being out of his prime nor his age.. all I read was how Floyd was scared to fight a real welter.. he would never fight Shane hes too scared he would lose he only fight smaller fighters blah blah blah.. NOWWWWW for some odd reason.. we wanna discuss "factors" about how Shane is old and he had a layoff.. as if Shane is not the primary reason why these guys havent fought yet in the first place!

Stylez I got to because they make it TOO easy.


So Kostya quit on stool against Hatton, not a good look agreed but why didn't he fight Tszyu before the Hatton fight?

First of all in 2003 Kostya was injured in 2003 and most of four when he signed for his rematch with Mitchell. After the Mitchell fight, Ricky Hatton's team targeted Kostya . Simultaneously when Floyd was on TOP RANK, they were trying to set the stage for a fight with Gatti which would have been Floyd's first PPV which he was seeking. FACT!!

Also if you want to speculate even more why the fight didn't happen at the time, Floyd was HBO and Kostya was with Showtime. I love when you guys mentioned Brusseles because everyone that doesn't harbor any biases KNOWS that was a TUNE UP fight for his Gatti pay per view. No different than Gatti fighting Leija. What is so hard for you to understand that there are schedule mismatches along with how lucrative fights are that sometimes makes fights tough to make?? I know it's convenient and EASY to be lazy and say, "he's ducking so and so".

After Floyd fought Gatti and Ricky Hatton along with Cotto DIDN'T want to fight at the time Floyd decided to move up to welterweight and set the stage for a showdown with then linear champ Zab Judah. It's not Floyd's fault that Zab lost to Baldomir but hey, the fight was still marketable and he eventually fought Baldomir. "But why did he avoid Margarito".

I've explained this a THOUSAND times and it seems to NOT sink in but try as I must, I'll do it again. So we're at 2006 now right?? Ironically this is the same year when Mosley was questioned about Maweather and he needed to get some sun and see the dentist right? Got it. But also this Margarito fool emerges. At that point, the Mayweather camp was single minded focused on a DLH fight. It would be a financial bonanza. Especially after DLH looked very impressive over his win over Mayorga right?? SAme year mind you. But the DARK HORSE, that great puncher, Tijuana Tornado emerges but one problem. Who the hell wants to see that in comparison to a DLH fight. If you recall DLH and Mayweather were POTENTIALLY supposed to meet that NOVEMBER but DLH wife was having a baby.

Turns out, Arum hadn't fully paid Floyd for the Judah & Gatti fights (and he openly admits this). Let me dig out a source.

Additionally when Floyd and Oscar were talking about their pending fight Oscar wanted NOTHING to do with Top Rank. This is when Floyd bought out his Top Rank deal for $750. Now suddenly Arum comes with the great $8 million dollar offer for(who) Margarito. The belt meant zilch and most of all he'd be dealing with a promoter who hadn't payed him prior, so why should he believe he would then?? Plus it could jeopardize his fight with DLH due to the options. Also, Dan Goosen was offering MORE along with a PPV upside in the Baldomir fight. Weight those facts, linear champ, more money and still the freedom to fight DLH. The choice is EASY.

If you're wondering why after the DLH fight he didn't make it with Mosley and Cotto and Margarito. Margarito as signed for paul williams and Mosley and Cotto already signed. See it's not hard to put the puzzles. It all comes down to what other posters have mentioned and what I double standards.

Great post marz... unfortunately they will still not get it.

Stylez I got to because they make it TOO easy.


So Kostya quit on stool against Hatton, not a good look agreed but why didn't he fight Tszyu before the Hatton fight?

First of all in 2003 Kostya was injured in 2003 and most of four when he signed for his rematch with Mitchell. After the Mitchell fight, Ricky Hatton's team targeted Kostya . Simultaneously when Floyd was on TOP RANK, they were trying to set the stage for a fight with Gatti which would have been Floyd's first PPV which he was seeking. FACT!!

Also if you want to speculate even more why the fight didn't happen at the time, Floyd was HBO and Kostya was with Showtime. I love when you guys mentioned Brusseles because everyone that doesn't harbor any biases KNOWS that was a TUNE UP fight for his Gatti pay per view. No different than Gatti fighting Leija. What is so hard for you to understand that there are schedule mismatches along with how lucrative fights are that sometimes makes fights tough to make?? I know it's convenient and EASY to be lazy and say, "he's ducking so and so".

After Floyd fought Gatti and Ricky Hatton along with Cotto DIDN'T want to fight at the time Floyd decided to move up to welterweight and set the stage for a showdown with then linear champ Zab Judah. It's not Floyd's fault that Zab lost to Baldomir but hey, the fight was still marketable and he eventually fought Baldomir. "But why did he avoid Margarito".

I've explained this a THOUSAND times and it seems to NOT sink in but try as I must, I'll do it again. So we're at 2006 now right?? Ironically this is the same year when Mosley was questioned about Maweather and he needed to get some sun and see the dentist right? Got it. But also this Margarito fool emerges. At that point, the Mayweather camp was single minded focused on a DLH fight. It would be a financial bonanza. Especially after DLH looked very impressive over his win over Mayorga right?? SAme year mind you. But the DARK HORSE, that great puncher, Tijuana Tornado emerges but one problem. Who the hell wants to see that in comparison to a DLH fight. If you recall DLH and Mayweather were POTENTIALLY supposed to meet that NOVEMBER but DLH wife was having a baby.

Turns out, Arum hadn't fully paid Floyd for the Judah & Gatti fights (and he openly admits this). Let me dig out a source.

Additionally when Floyd and Oscar were talking about their pending fight Oscar wanted NOTHING to do with Top Rank. This is when Floyd bought out his Top Rank deal for $750. Now suddenly Arum comes with the great $8 million dollar offer for(who) Margarito. The belt meant zilch and most of all he'd be dealing with a promoter who hadn't payed him prior, so why should he believe he would then?? Plus it could jeopardize his fight with DLH due to the options. Also, Dan Goosen was offering MORE along with a PPV upside in the Baldomir fight. Weight those facts, linear champ, more money and still the freedom to fight DLH. The choice is EASY.

If you're wondering why after the DLH fight he didn't make it with Mosley and Cotto and Margarito. Margarito as signed for paul williams and Mosley and Cotto already signed. See it's not hard to put the puzzles. It all comes down to what other posters have mentioned and what I double standards.

You know whats funny, is how everytime you speak facts people respond to you by calling you Floyd boyfriend and why you love him so much, but yet no one is really debating the facts here.. LOL WTF.. dont wast your time with these Floyd haters are pathetic.. No matter how much sense you make you're still wrong b/c you supporting public enemy # 1! And we're not supposed to be realistic, we're supposed to discuss a bunch of pointless bullshit to discredit Floyd, although it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Floyd is fighting the man that yall claim he would NEVER fight, regardless of age/layoff. Im still tryna find out how a man could have so much hate and dislike for another man that he never met a day in his life. B/c ima fan of the guy, Im tryna be his boyfriend and im gullible, etc. Fuck outta here Lol.

Stylez I got to because they make it TOO easy.


everyone that doesn't harbor any biases KNOWS that was a TUNE UP fight for his Gatti pay per view. No different than Gatti fighting Leija. What is so hard for you to understand that there are schedule mismatches along with how lucrative fights are that sometimes makes fights tough to make?? I know it's convenient and EASY to be lazy and say, "he's ducking so and so".

Great post marz... unfortunately they will still not get it.

You know whats funny, is how everytime you speak facts people respond to you by calling you Floyd boyfriend and why you love him so much, but yet no one is really debating the facts here.. LOL WTF.. dont wast your time with these Floyd haters are pathetic.. No matter how much sense you make you're still wrong b/c you supporting public enemy # 1! And we're not supposed to be realistic, we're supposed to discuss a bunch of pointless bullshit to discredit Floyd, although it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Floyd is fighting the man that yall claim he would NEVER fight, regardless of age/layoff. Im still tryna find out how a man could have so much hate and dislike for another man that he never met a day in his life. B/c ima fan of the guy, Im tryna be his boyfriend and im gullible, etc. Fuck outta here Lol.

Agreed with your post, though I'm not sure about the bolded part. The winner will be considered the best welter weight, but I'm not sure either will be undisputed. Mayweather was undisputed champion, but he retired so all this fight is, is who is the top fighter at 147, though I don't think it's a fight for the undisputed title.

Either way, I think it's say to say that Mosley is recognized by most as "THE MAN" of the division.

Ty I just asked XXXX the same question:

Do you like Floyd's choice of opponents over the last decade?

Just answer me yes or no. Because it really is as simple at that. Do you think they are fights that will add to his legacy the same way his early fights with the likes of Manfredy, Diego, Castillo will?

Yep! I see nothing wrong with his choice of opponents. We can debate all night on why he havent fought certain guys yet, but Marz already broke that down so its no need for me to get into that. AND..... ill say it again.. hes now fighting the guy that everyone said he was so scared to face. So what are we talking bout? Is he not fighting Shane on May 1st? Did you and everybody else not say that Floyd would never fight Shane? Answer me this, how come these factors about layoff/age was never mentioned couple months ago when Floyd looked pass Shane? Whats up with all this damn pity for Shane? Did this man not use steroids? Oh but we gon pretend that didnt happen when discussing a man "legacy" just as long it isnt Floyd we talking bout, then we can look pass it.

Get over it torvix. Who cares about rematch clauses. Mosley has used them before against Wright and Forrest.

I think Paul Williams would disagree.

I've got one question for you and i'll ask it of Ty as well.

Do you like Floyd's choice of opponents over the last decade?

Just answer me yes or no. Because it really is as simple at that.

Agreed with your post, though I'm not sure about the bolded part. The winner will be considered the best welter weight, but I'm not sure either will be undisputed. Mayweather was undisputed champion, but he retired so all this fight is, is who is the top fighter at 147, though I don't think it's a fight for the undisputed title.

Marz already pointed out why some of the "perceived threats" are not on Floyds resume so I don't feel the need to go over it again. However, with that said, I do believe Floyd has added to his legacy over the last 10 years and to call guys like De La Hoya, Hatton, Judah, Marquez, Castillo, Corrales & soon to be Mosley bums is very disrespectful towards the sport of boxing.

No Matter What You Read About Floyd vs. Shane, It’s NOT Signed, Sealed Or Delivered

By William Trillo

I don’t know why so many websites & newspapers want to trick you to read their premature news breaker about Floyd vs.Shane being a done deal because as everyone including those writers know the fight is not officially official. Yet one look at their headlines and you want to start making reservations for the first weekend of May in Las Vegas.

A perfect example of this smoke and mirror journalism can be found on Yahoo’s boxing main page. A quick click on that page on Saturday night and you will see a smiling Shane Mosley with the caption on the picture reading, Fight’s On. Click on the picture and you are directed to an article with the headline: Contract signed: Mosley-Mayweather set for May 1. The second paragraph of the article penned by boxing staple Kevin Iole reads: Earlier in the day, Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe said that a deal had been agreed upon, as reported Thursday by Yahoo! Sports and that contracts were being drawn up. Ellerbe said Mayweather would sign the deal as soon as it was ready.

Wait a minute?

Mayweather would sign the deal as soon as it was ready?

In other words…The Fight is NOT On! Mosley-Mayweather is NOT Set for May 1!

Apparently the premature announcement is more contagious than The H1N1 virus and it is spreading twice as fast as that AKA Swine Flu. Similar headlines can be found across the World Wide Web:

Mayweather and Mosley agree to May 1 super fight

Mayweather, Mosley set to fight

Report: Mosley, Mayweather reach terms

And then every article gets about 2 sentences in before they note, “Mayweather has yet to sign his own deal agreement, but Burstein said he has been assured by the boxer’s lead advisor, Leonard Ellerbe, that the signature would come sometime “in the next two days.”

C’mon guys! Have you not seen this act before? As I recall it was in the not too distant past we were told Floyd was ready to fight before the crap hit the fan and that proposed “Set Fight” imploded.

Now I am sure all of you guys have way better sources than I do and I know you all have a much better education than yours truly as well. But with all those sources and that great education what you have failed to learn is that nothing is official when it comes to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Quite frankly, I hope you guys are right! I hope that Mayweather and Mosley do square off in the ring on May 1st. Nothing would make me happier than to see Shane bouncing leather off Pretty Boy’s face. On the other hand, nothing would make some of you happier than to see Floyd Jr. outclass Mosley and prove he is Pound4Pound on the top of the list of boxings best in recent years.

After a year that has started off with more fight cancellations than I can remember everyone in boxing, especially the fans, need a fight like this to come to it’s fruition.

But my short tem memory still works semi-decently and as I recall we were all led to believe that Pacquiao vs. Mayweather was agreed to in principle and was all but done last year. Well, it’s 2010 now and Manny is fighting Joshua Clottey on March 13th because of Maywether’s drug testing demands. So until we see Floyd Jr. standing in a ring in Las Vegas directly across from “Sugar” Shane this fight is not etched in granite….period….end of discussion.

Thanks for the article, wet blanket

Why so? Mosley should never have been awarded the undisputed status, he hasn't been awarded that status and rightly so. You can only become undisputed two ways. You either rack up 3 of the 4 titles yourself, or beat the man who is undisputed.
Considering Mosley only holds one of the 4 titles, and Mosley, Cotto or Margarito were never undisputed or has never beaten a fighter who was undisputed there is absolutely no way that he should be considered undisputed champion. I have no idea how Mosley could be awarded the undisputed status.

What people don't know right now, it's a fighter right now out here in Las Vegas. He's in the hospital right now. His hospital bill is all the way up to a million dollars. All the way up to a million dollars. He took some head shots and the guy that he fought, we don't know what the guy was on because he only had to take a urine test. Now if he was to take a blood test, then that guy may not even be in the hospital because you don't know what the guy was taking. I'm not saying he was taking nothing, but we just don't know.

lol

hey I'd love for this fight to come off, but as I said before (and he said in that article) until they're in the ring, and the bell goes off, I'm not buying it. Burned too many times in the past with fights falling apart when they were supposedly a done deal.

What was the point of the article?

I heard both Floyd and Shane say with their own lips that the fight is done and that's all I need to hear. So you can take that article and shove it up you're hatin ass.

BIOTCH!

Has Floyd SIGNED?

Did we all get told that Floyd/Pac was a DONE DEAL?

*shrugs*

You're talking about the Ring Magazine title...not the undisputed title.

Margarito - Mosley was actually not for the Ring Magazine title.

I never heard from both sides that the fight was done...

Today I heard a interview with Floyd AND Shane and both said that the fight is ON. Both sides agreed on everything... Site, Split, TESTING, Glove Size, etc.

I understand that JD, BUT to me Undisputed means no doubt and I never understood why Ring magazine didn't recognize that fight as The Championship. Usually I agree with The Ring, but in that instance I didn't.

I think Ring awards their title when it's vacant if a 1 and 2 fight...and in some cases, but not always, a 1 and 3. This was between and 1 and a 3, and for whatever reason, they decided not to put the vacant title on the line.

Your guess as to why is as good as mine.

As for undisputed...this fight only had the WBA belt on the line.