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Snoop
So I'm debating on whether or not I should try a "polyphasic sleep" schedule. For those of you unfamiliar with the term, based on what I gathered (which isn't much), it is basically a series of short naps throughout the day, rather than the typical 6-8 hr "monophasic" sleep cycle we typically take at night.

For now, I would consider myself a "biphasic" sleeper, meaning I sleep for about 5-5.5 hrs at night, with one 20min nap in the middle of the day. I think a complete shift to an "uberman" schedule (six 20 min naps; 2hrs of a sleep a day) is too drastic for me, as well as inconvenient since the world operates on a "monophasic" schedule. Therefore, I was looking at what is called a "everyman" sleep schedule, which is a three hour block, plus three 20min naps throughout the day, a total of 4 hrs of sleep a day.

Has anyone ever attempted this before?
Fitz
No. Though I have heard about it. I think hearing from someone that it's ok in the first few days and after that, you begin to burn out. Could be wrong and I suppose it varies from person to person, but would be interested to know how that works out for you.
ROLL DEEP
Funny you should bring this up....I was telling my friend about it yesterday.


There was an edition of Mens Health were one of the writers tried it and he kept a diary and how he was doing. He done it for a month or 6 weeks or something?





Cut a long story short, he didn't carry on doing it. He said it was really hard to get into the routine and once he did make the transition and got more used to it, he had a LOAD of free time available. He wrote a book, learned another language, exercised more often, etc, but he still struggled to make the switch from a 6-8 hours sleep pattern to 20 min naps.

I know I couldn't do it. I have 7-9 hours a night AND a power nap in the afternoon, laugh.gif
JonnyBlaze
This sounds crazy as hell..There's no way in hell I'd be able to do it..If anyone tries it,I'd wanna hear stories but never in my life would I even attempt this..I do believe that by getting your sleep through this method of sleeping that you would feel like you have a lot more time on your hands to do other things..I need 8-10 hours of sleep..7-8 is what I normally get but if I can get 10 hours,I feel real refreshed..I read in one of Joe Louis' books that during training he would also sleep 8-10 hours..

Anyway,if anyone tries this for a few days to a week,let us know how much hell it was..hahahaha..It sounds like a bad idea since by only sleeping 20 minutes each time,you don't even enter deep sleep which is when your body is healing/resting itself up the most..
STEVENSKI
I sleep between 5-7 hours a night & drink coffee to survive during the day. I need more sleep but just don't have the time. As for a power nap during the day no chance.
Warlord
QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Feb 26 2010, 05:21 AM) *
This sounds crazy as hell..There's no way in hell I'd be able to do it..If anyone tries it,I'd wanna hear stories but never in my life would I even attempt this..I do believe that by getting your sleep through this method of sleeping that you would feel like you have a lot more time on your hands to do other things..I need 8-10 hours of sleep..7-8 is what I normally get but if I can get 10 hours,I feel real refreshed..I read in one of Joe Louis' books that during training he would also sleep 8-10 hours..

Anyway,if anyone tries this for a few days to a week,let us know how much hell it was..hahahaha..It sounds like a bad idea since by only sleeping 20 minutes each time,you don't even enter deep sleep which is when your body is healing/resting itself up the most..

Rocky Marciano used to sleep right before his fights. I mean RIGHT before, as in minutes before. He nearly overslept once, don't quote me, but I think it was against Joe Louis. Apparently Rock was asleep when they announced his name for his ring entrance. His corner had to wake him up and get him in his robe, rushing like motherfuckers to hustle him out. laugh.gif
Douchebag
I hear it's good if you can stick to a schedule, but if you miss one the naps you are in TROUBLE!
lloyd mayflower
I think it would be ok as long as you found something to fill the wee small hours, but you could easily get bored and end up purring when your not meant to be. I couldnt do it as my sleep pattern is already inconceivably fucked up as i have to switch from nightshift to dayshif and back pretty regularly, but if you do it id like to hear how it went
Snoop
I've been doing some more reading on the subject, and I've decided "Uberman", six 20mins naps throughout the day, is WAY to fucking crazy for me. Apparently they say only 2% of people that try this are actually successful and it takes about a month to actually get adjusted to it. On top of that, you have to be PINPOINT accurate in your naps. If you miss one, you miss one. You can't make it up, and if you oversleep, you pretty much have to start over again.

QUOTE
Anyway,if anyone tries this for a few days to a week,let us know how much hell it was..hahahaha..It sounds like a bad idea since by only sleeping 20 minutes each time,you don't even enter deep sleep which is when your body is healing/resting itself up the most..

It's interesting you mention this because ever since I started taking 20 min power naps, rather than the longer 45-60min ones, I've been able to reach the REM sleep stage in a sleep cycle as short as 13mins. Just yesterday I had a 13 min nap and remember a very vivid and seemingly long dream. I've heard that it's just a matter of telling your body to enter stages 3/4 faster since it's accustomed to not sleeping long.

I think I'm definitely going to try the "Everyman" sleep schedule (3hr core + three 20min naps = 4hr total) because I'm just one of those obsessive mofos that would rather be up doing shit than sleep. But I'm also an amateur boxer so I'm a little worried how the lack of sleep is going to affect my exercise. Either way, it's just a matter of deciding when I actually want to do this since I'm also planning on doing a Master Cleanse in about a month, which, is another thread. Haha.
Spyder
I did something close to the "everyman" sleep schedule when I worked overnights for a year.

I would get out of work at 9am, go home and sleep for about 90min. Wake up, go to the gym(I was boxing then), eat, hangout, whatever...then around 8-9p I would sleep another 2-3 hours before I had to go to work at midnight.

Like I said, I did that for a year without knowing that there was a name for it. I always just said that I HAD to keep track of my sleep times and make sure that I got around 4hrs...if I didn't, then I'd be FUCKED at around 6-7a the next day. I could get the 4hrs in at 9a when I got home, if I had something that I wanted to do at night before I went to work...or...I could get the 4hrs in right before I went to work if I had something in the morning that I needed to do. Usually, I would stick to the split sleep schedule that I described earlier.

But anyway, I boxed, worked my full-time job and a part-time job at the radio station during that time for a full year. It wasn't bad. I got a lot of shit accomplished, but I felt tired all the time. Not so much that it was debilitating, but I just never felt fully rested.
Keith
This polyphasic sleep wouldnt be for me.

I would fall asleep on the way to work....

putting my ass to sleep for good.
Snoop
QUOTE (Spyder @ Feb 27 2010, 04:00 AM) *
I did something close to the "everyman" sleep schedule when I worked overnights for a year.

I would get out of work at 9am, go home and sleep for about 90min. Wake up, go to the gym(I was boxing then), eat, hangout, whatever...then around 8-9p I would sleep another 2-3 hours before I had to go to work at midnight.

Like I said, I did that for a year without knowing that there was a name for it. I always just said that I HAD to keep track of my sleep times and make sure that I got around 4hrs...if I didn't, then I'd be FUCKED at around 6-7a the next day. I could get the 4hrs in at 9a when I got home, if I had something that I wanted to do at night before I went to work...or...I could get the 4hrs in right before I went to work if I had something in the morning that I needed to do. Usually, I would stick to the split sleep schedule that I described earlier.

But anyway, I boxed, worked my full-time job and a part-time job at the radio station during that time for a full year. It wasn't bad. I got a lot of shit accomplished, but I felt tired all the time. Not so much that it was debilitating, but I just never felt fully rested.

Yes this sounds more or less exactly what I'm talking about. I mean did you feel like you could move those naps around to accommodate for a social outing or were you pretty much bound to it? And you didn't feel unhealthy or sick despite the fact that you boxed?
Spyder
QUOTE (Snoop @ Feb 27 2010, 12:35 PM) *
Yes this sounds more or less exactly what I'm talking about. I mean did you feel like you could move those naps around to accommodate for a social outing or were you pretty much bound to it? And you didn't feel unhealthy or sick despite the fact that you boxed?

Yeah, like I said...as long as I kept track of my sleep time and got in around 4 hours I was good to go. I could get it in all at once, or split up throughout the day.

It took me about a month to get used to it, but once my body adjusted I felt good enough to go a couple of hours in the gym. One more thing though, on my weekend I would sleep normal hours...meaning, go to bed at night and wake up in the morning. During the work week however, I was a day sleeper.
Snoop
I've been going on a cold streak of not having a cold for like 7 years and just this year I get sick three times in two months. Fucking ridiculous. I wonder if my sleep has anything to do with it. Did you find yourself more susceptible to colds or anything?
Spyder
QUOTE (Snoop @ Feb 28 2010, 01:46 PM) *
I've been going on a cold streak of not having a cold for like 7 years and just this year I get sick three times in two months. Fucking ridiculous. I wonder if my sleep has anything to do with it. Did you find yourself more susceptible to colds or anything?

No, in fact I didn't even get health insurance that year because I never got sick. But that's just me, I rarely get sick.
BGv2.0
This way of sleeping sounds like you have chosen to live the life of a big, fat house cat!

Naps all day long.... thumbsup_anim.gif
Snoop
QUOTE (BGv2.0 @ Mar 1 2010, 10:48 PM) *
This way of sleeping sounds like you have chosen to live the life of a big, fat house cat!

Naps all day long.... thumbsup_anim.gif

If I spent the 22 hours awake laying around and shitting, then maybe. But I don't plan to.
Spyder
QUOTE (Snoop @ Mar 1 2010, 07:20 PM) *
If I spent the 22 hours awake laying around and shitting, then maybe. But I don't plan to.

Snoop plans to spend the extra hours chaffing his penis looking at internet porn. laugh.gif
happygocampy
For most people this is a bad idea, your body doesn't need sleep for rest but rather your brain needs sleep to dream, laying down on the sofa watching TV is equivalent to sleeping, and many times actually better for you from a resting standpoint, because most people throughout the night of sleep will roll around allot and tense muscles n such w/o even knowing it. If i remember right, it takes the average person about 2 hours after falling asleep before their brain starts the process of dreaming, the longer you sleep the deeper you go and eventually your body enters a deep sleep phase. You can sleep as many 20 minute intervals a day as you want but as long as your brain isn't able to dream you are in for some serious misery after a few days. There have been voluntary sleep studys done where the subjects were never aloud into dream states and they all suffered serious misery, agitation, crankyness etc and some even started becoming dillusional. There are exceptions to the rule, some people are able to enter dream states after only a few minutes and these people will typically sleep around 4 hours a night and never seem tired, you probably know a few people like that, i know i do.

Interesting though, i wonder if the people that tough this out actually transition themselves into speedier dream states.
ROLL DEEP
I think thats what happens ^^^^



You sort of 'train' your body to enter the dreaming stage quicker.



I've done it before (not the polyphasic sleeping), but when I've been really, really tired, I've fell asleep for like 10 minutes and woke up in the middle of a dream, cutting out the middle part.
Snoop
QUOTE (Spyder @ Mar 2 2010, 02:24 AM) *
Snoop plans to spend the extra hours chaffing his penis looking at internet porn. laugh.gif

No. Only 75% of it will be going towards that. The other 25% of gains will be for WoW.
Spyder
QUOTE (Snoop @ Mar 2 2010, 11:00 AM) *
No. Only 75% of it will be going towards that. The other 25% of gains will be for WoW.

LMAO...now you're speaking BigG's language.
Snoop
I've been doing a bunch of research (or at least of the little that's out there) and after looking at my schedule, I'm thinking of tackling the Uberman schedule, six 20 min naps per day rather than sleeping, it's just a matter of when I want to try it.
Snoop
QUOTE (ROLL DEEP @ Mar 2 2010, 08:58 AM) *
I think thats what happens ^^^^



You sort of 'train' your body to enter the dreaming stage quicker.



I've done it before (not the polyphasic sleeping), but when I've been really, really tired, I've fell asleep for like 10 minutes and woke up in the middle of a dream, cutting out the middle part.

Nowadays I take 20min naps (not polyphasic yet) and I feel like I've been out for 2 hrs, full dreams n all.
Spyder
QUOTE (Snoop @ Mar 18 2010, 12:51 PM) *
Nowadays I take 20min naps (not polyphasic yet) and I feel like I've been out for 2 hrs, full dreams n all.

It seems like someone just renamed the power nap.
Maxy
I used to have a 40 minute doze in the afternoons provided I had the time but since deciding I wouldn't bother anymore, I am having a solid 6 hour sleep at night and I feel much better for it.

As for this polyphasic thing....I'd never heard of it until this thread and there is absolutely no way I would ever attempt it.
Snoop
QUOTE (Spyder @ Mar 18 2010, 08:28 PM) *
It seems like someone just renamed the power nap.

I guess a constant succession of power naps = polyphasic sleep.
Vega
I don't think I could do that. When I worked third-shift for a whole summer one time, I felt like I had less energy during the day after I woke up from a morning sleep. I would go to work at night, come home around 7am and fall asleep until noon or one. I didn't like it and could never get used to it. I think it might be possible but it would take me at least a year to finally train my body when to sleep and when to stay awake. Plus I can barely keep up with trying to sleep 8-hours through the night because of staying up too late, I could never manage my time well enough to sleep 6 times or whatever throughout the day.

Vega Sinclair, Health Insurance Advisor
Snoop
QUOTE (Vega @ Mar 23 2010, 10:10 PM) *
I don't think I could do that. When I worked third-shift for a whole summer one time, I felt like I had less energy during the day after I woke up from a morning sleep. I would go to work at night, come home around 7am and fall asleep until noon or one. I didn't like it and could never get used to it. I think it might be possible but it would take me at least a year to finally train my body when to sleep and when to stay awake. Plus I can barely keep up with trying to sleep 8-hours through the night because of staying up too late, I could never manage my time well enough to sleep 6 times or whatever throughout the day.

The strange thing is that I always had a problem staying awake on a monophasic, 8hrs a night sleeping pattern. I would try going 9 hrs, sometimes 10 and it made it worse. It wasn't until I started sleeping less at night (5-6hrs) and taking 15-20 min power naps in the middle of the day did my daytime awareness improve.

But yeah you definitely have to have the flexible schedule to allow it to happen. Luckily a lot of my work is sporadic and my schedule is more or less self-determined (at least at this stage), so I figured I try it since I may never have this chance again.
Spyder
QUOTE (Snoop @ Mar 23 2010, 06:52 PM) *
The strange thing is that I always had a problem staying awake on a monophasic, 8hrs a night sleeping pattern. I would try going 9 hrs, sometimes 10 and it made it worse. It wasn't until I started sleeping less at night (5-6hrs) and taking 15-20 min power naps in the middle of the day did my daytime awareness improve.

But yeah you definitely have to have the flexible schedule to allow it to happen. Luckily a lot of my work is sporadic and my schedule is more or less self-determined (at least at this stage), so I figured I try it since I may never have this chance again.

When are you going to try this?
Snoop
QUOTE (Spyder @ Mar 24 2010, 12:32 AM) *
When are you going to try this?

That's the tricky part. I gotta schedule a time where I can afford to be a completely useless zombie for a good 2-3 weeks. LOL.

I'm thinking maybe in the summer, but if not then, definitely in the fall (Sept-Octish). I'll rebump this thread when the time comes.
Spyder
Your post count should go through the roof...unfortunately, the quality will probably drop further in the basement. lol
Snoop
QUOTE (Spyder @ Mar 24 2010, 02:25 AM) *
Your post count should go through the roof...unfortunately, the quality will probably drop further in the basement. lol

Yup. I'll be right there with you. LOL. Just playin' bro.

But seriously, I'll probably be posting like Torvix, talking to myself n shit. laugh.gif
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