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EAlbian
This topic is about what you as a boxing fan would do or like to see done to bring boxing back center stage. I think boxing has taken a major backseat to other sports in the media especially over the last 10 years. I think there a numerous things that could implement the fight game and bring it back close to what it use to be.

24/7 and fight camp 360 are great starters, they take a look into the lives of the guys that put it on the line in the ring. I think back stories greatly sell the fights. I think an inside series, something like inside mma would be great for the boxing fan that wants more boxing. Have interviews with up and coming fighters as well as those who are more established names, show highlights, up coming fights, build fights, and have expert analysis on those topics. Maybe even look at what is going on in the armature scene. I know i pretty much tune into Friday night fights for those reasons but its not nearly enough.

HBO has the rights to 1000's of fights, why not implement a package where consumers and boxing fans could access previous fights and relive the glory of past times.

I know a lot of people hate him but Floyd got the right idea with selling the fights the way he does. I know when i was younger i watched a lot of pro wrestling because i like the whole idea of the good guy fighting the bad guy and the way they sold the show. It doesnt always have to be that scenario but shit, promoters should want their fighters calling out guys, selling fights, talking trash, its about entertainment value.

up and comers need to fight more, tyson used to fight every month during his early career. I dont mind if a young guy is fighting bums but if your going to fight bums at least fight a lot, dont take 2 months off in between fights. It builds public interest, guys like Demitrius Andrade and Deontay Wilder need to stay in the public eye so they can become stars, not fight bums every 3 months.

How about a series, like a contender, tournament style, that only has prospects and promoting stables each have a stake in it. The show would air every week and have a fight at each weight class(say the original 8) and be seeded by amateur and pro experience. They wouldn't have to live in the same house or anything and the tournament would take well over a year to finish. Maybe make it like a team thing with team top rank and team golden boy etc.. where the winning stable would get promotional rights to airing the championships on ppv or some kind of reward. Then a champion is crowned at each weight class and the next year the tournament is held again with new participants and some reentering. Maybe the winners of that year eventually facing the champions of the previous year/s on a return ppv, something of that nature

what are some of your thoughts?
ROLL DEEP
You make some valid points! I like the idea of accessing past fights.

1) 24/7 Style Shows

Love or hate MMA, they do a good job at selling their product - especially to the younger generation, which is what boxing needs. Like you say, shows like 24/7 are important and they could sell any fight to the general public if they edited it right.



2) Fighting More

Again, like the post above, fighters need to f-ckin' fight more! The top guys should be fighting at least 3 - 4 times a year...it's their job!


3) Less Belts

We can dream, but it would make things seem so much clearer to the general fan. They don't care or want to learn who the IBF, WBC, WBA, WBF, champion is....they just want to know who 'the champ' is.


oozemcbuck
I would sing up to a "boxing channel", just like the mlb network, nfl network, or nba tv. ESPN never talks about boxing, except for 3 minutes when there's a big fight. Then they spend the rest of the time talking about Tiger. That's why I go directly to the channel of the sport I want to hear about, so I don't have to listen to tennis news when I have no interest in it. We need a boxing channel where they not only show fights, but in-depth looks at all aspects of the game, from the trainers, to the judges and ref's, promoters, what it's like to work a corner, etc. Like nba inside stuff. Nowadays, you can't stay up to date on boxing without the internet. The RING magazine comes out every 4-5 months or whatever. By the time u buy the issue, you're reading old news. A weekly paper/magazine would help too.
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (ROLL DEEP @ Apr 12 2010, 04:34 PM) *
You make some valid points! I like the idea of accessing past fights.

1) 24/7 Style Shows

Love or hate MMA, they do a good job at selling their product - especially to the younger generation, which is what boxing needs. Like you say, shows like 24/7 are important and they could sell any fight to the general public if they edited it right.



2) Fighting More

Again, like the post above, fighters need to f-ckin' fight more! The top guys should be fighting at least 3 - 4 times a year...it's their job!


3) Less Belts

We can dream, but it would make things seem so much clearer to the general fan. They don't care or want to learn who the IBF, WBC, WBA, WBF, champion is....they just want to know who 'the champ' is.


Thats the one for me. Many casual fans of boxing are fans because of one or two fighters, they have their favourite that they like to watch. If these guys fought 3 or 4 times every year you have to think that more people would be exposed to more fighters on undercards etc and would spend more time following the sport. Which leads nicely onto the next biggest problem in boxing. The lazy promoters. Start stacking undercards for fuck sake!!!
mexi-cutioner
Better fight cards, more often.

Boxing has alot of talent, the problems with promoters is that interests often clash. I would love to see boxing implement a style similar to UFC where all their fighters are represented under the UFC banner, boxing should do the same. Having 3-4 quality fights on a PPV card with 4-6 reputable names would make even the casual boxing fan excited and maybe even get some recognitition to those elite-lesser known fighters in the lower weight classes (aka Montiel,Donaire,Darchinyan etc)
KookedKrack
Same day weigh ins and get rid of all the fucking belts.
blackbelt2003
Two things:

ONE - fighters must fight more. Fighting once or twice a year just does not build support for them. By the time they've had a month's break, negotiated for the next fight for three months, trained for six weeks the general public have forgotten who they were.

They should strike whilst the iron is hot, if you've just gotten yourself into the public eye with a breakthrough performance, why wait a year for your next fight? I guess it's because fighters are too scared to lose unbeaten records, which shouldn't really mean a thing.


TWO - The three bodies, WBC, WBA and IBF should make the other champs mandatories for their own titles. Surely if there was one undisputed champion the alphabets wouldn't lose too much in sanctioning fees, especially as it means the guy who holds all three belts is going to be a bigger name than some of the random, unheard of fighters they have at the moment. Surely a third of the Mosley-Mayweather fight sanctioning fees is worth more than all of the Jan Zaveck IBF fees.



Those two things would clean the fight game up.




Black
Lil-lightsout
Great topic and great replies so far, I agree with you all.

These ridiculous PPV cards have got to go. If it is quality and warrants PPV, I am fine by that for BIG fights. But these shitty no name, has been, awful match-ups we get for the majority of cards is a joke.

Fighters def need to fight more often.

Get some name fighters on some Saturday or Sunday afternoon free TV.

Get one universal set of rules for boxing.


Box in Hand
I would like to see fighter's insurance. This is something that may or may not be in existence but I never hear about it. Fighters get hurt or killed in the ring and their families are left with nothing. The insurance would go a long way in fixing that problem. I would also like to see a retirement fund for fighters. Most fighters can't manage their money and often go broke after retiring. They may have ring smarts but money smarts is totally different. The best have succumb to this problem. Even SRR died broke.

I would suggest some type of 401K for boxers where parts of their earnings go into this account so when they retire they have something to fall back.
Spyder
The problem with a sorry ass undercard is that the Main Event is taking such a HUGE slice of the pie. Shit, sometimes they're taking the whole fucking thing. For an undercard to contain viable names they would have to:

A- Pay the Main Event fighters less
-or-
B- Charge the fans more

With the regular $50 PPV, and live gate tix averaging about $40-$100 for a cheap seat...there isn't much more that they can charge us. That means that the fighters themselves would have to take a pay cut...and you all know how likely that is of happening.

The best shot that we have of seeing a good undercard is when the Main Event fighter is also getting a promoter percentage. That keeps their cut to where they're used to, and frees up a little more cash to fill the card. Unfortunately for all of us, that STILL is no guarantee that they'll actually put that "extra" money back into the card, instead of just putting it in their pocket.
Snoop
This is a good topic and I'm liking the responses all around on the thread. I would like to see two things:

1) For FULL quality boxing cards to come back, not these top-heavy PPVs where we're shelling out $50 to watch one overpriced, and usually, overrated match up. Put those fights back on broadcast television and you have a huge revival to the sport.

2) I know this is idealistic but for promoters to stop being so goddamn greedy. That is the root of it all IMO.
RyanTical
QUOTE (ROLL DEEP @ Apr 12 2010, 06:32 AM) *
I've just watched 24/7 and boy do I want Shane to smash Floyd to bits laugh.gif


Floyd, on the ropes, Margarito style, Shane launches a BIG left hook and Floyd spins and drops face first onto the ropes, KO'd.


I didn't read any of the other posts prior to this one, for the record.

1. One Sanctioning body. That sanctioning body is also the Boxing Commission that oversees ALL of Boxing.
2. That Sanctioning body orders for elimination tournaments to determine a contender for the belt. All fights will be on FREE-TV.
3. Once a year, fights return to saturday primetime television i.e. Strikeforce Saturday Night Fights.
4. No Catchweight fights. Either make the weight or don't fight.
5. Stricter drug tests to rid drugs and all performance enhancers from the sport.
6. Have money in the budget allocated to larger for the first party media. Meaning more TV time for the sport.
EAlbian
QUOTE (Spyder @ Apr 12 2010, 04:45 PM) *
The problem with a sorry ass undercard is that the Main Event is taking such a HUGE slice of the pie. Shit, sometimes they're taking the whole fucking thing. For an undercard to contain viable names they would have to:

A- Pay the Main Event fighters less
-or-
B- Charge the fans more

With the regular $50 PPV, and live gate tix averaging about $40-$100 for a cheap seat...there isn't much more that they can charge us. That means that the fighters themselves would have to take a pay cut...and you all know how likely that is of happening.

The best shot that we have of seeing a good undercard is when the Main Event fighter is also getting a promoter percentage. That keeps their cut to where they're used to, and frees up a little more cash to fill the card. Unfortunately for all of us, that STILL is no guarantee that they'll actually put that "extra" money back into the card, instead of just putting it in their pocket.




How about building up the talent of fighters, or gving them a more marketable appeal. The problem is that the guys on the undercards are unheard of or crap. If they are real talent they fight some scrub because that's the only way to make money but if the overall talent of the sport is bumped up or the fighters are given more recognition the ppv will make more money and the undercard can be something worth talking about. There needs to be new innovations in boxing to change the sport not jet saying stronger undercards and less titles, titles don't mean shit if your the best and have an outlet then people will watch. In mma there's ufc and strikeforce but because there is a champ in each doesn't mean the best fighter isn't fighting in dream in japan. An all boxing network would be great, there are millions of boxing fans but it's like they just fly underthe radar, there needs to be change and the fans should demand it. I think one of the first things is to support the amateurs because they are the future of the sport. The US Olympic team used to be something to brag about and all we can do now is bring back a bronze medal. The public needs to have more of an access to the sport, boxing is a great sport that teach disciple and self control and that's what needs to be conveyed to the public, more gyms need to be built in under priviliged areas. This is a push that I think fans should be at the forefront and alert boxers toward so that they can keep there sport alive. There has been talk about health care and retirement plans, how about a national commitee or governing body like the NBA or NFL where a percentage of purses and sanctioning fees go towards building amateur programs, 401 ks, and boosting the national or at some point international commitee/governing body
Jack 1000
Great Topic! My List:

1.) Stop the promotional bickering between HBO and Showtime: Instead just compete for the best fighters against the best fights. Don't put matches on that over-lap time slots. You just lose subs you could have gained with the possibility of them switching over to another channel. HBO, stop looking for the one next "hope" by showcasing him in a bunch of mediocre mismatches. At least they seem to have gotten the message with the Klitschkos, FINALLY! If the fight is a mismatch on paper, and you KNOW it's just there to pom-pom the Olympian or house fighter, when the opponent has no chance of winning, don't show it. When Golden Boy first started, the matches were competitive, but now, especially with the over-priced PPV's, there are too many mismatches.

2.) Only do PPV for major closed-circuit fights. Everything else, and I mean EVERYTHING ELSE should be made available to HBO, Showtime, or even Standard Cable. Mayweather-Mosley should be a regular HBO fight. Only Mayweather-Pacquiao, if it ever happens should be HBO or PPV. Why can't ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, or even Spike TV get involved in some boxing? Showtime has moved away from PPV's and has been very successful in doing so. Here that HBO?

3.) Mandated Title Unification Tournaments From the Big Four (WBC, WBA, IBF, and WBO): I do not want a one world one champion scenario for fear of a promoter monopoly, or to have fighters held hostage to one promoter or network. I would like to see a round robin tournament where the four organizations get together to rank each others champions and work to organize an elimination tournament to produce a unified title holder. The alphabet federations should work together, not against the goals of title unification bouts.

4.) And two notes to the WBC:

a.) Stop penalizing the victims of accidental head-butts: Why the WBC insists on a point deduction from an uninjured fighter after an unintentional head-butt in which the fighter gets cut from a butt is just not fair. They say it helps neutralize the effect of a boxer fighting with an accidental cut. But all that is being done is fighters are being penalized due to being lucky they weren't cut. And there have been several instances where this ridiculous rule has influenced the outcome of very important boxing matches. Every boxing commission involved with this great sport should seek to overturn the WBC eye-cut rule before a fight. Or nullify it completely which the Association of Boxing Commissions and the British Boxing Board of Control have already done.

b.) Dump "Open Scoring:" I've outlined Open Scoring's problems in the past, and why the fuck the WBC brought it back especially after it's failed attempt following its experimentation after Holyfield-Lewis I eleven years ago makes no sense. Even if only used after the 4th and 8th rounds, we are seeing more fighters go into track meets to protect their wins, fighters quitting on stools knowing they can no longer win, and more ways for the outcomes of fights to be manipulated. Another rule that should be thrown out and kept out of boxing. All other boxing federations hate it. The Association of Boxing Commissions hates it, turning it down by a 32-1 vote. The British Boxing Board of Control rejected it. But there are still commissions oversees that are using it. Just like the accidental head-butt rule, Open Scoring should be rejected before ANY and every WBC sanctioned fight. Open Scoring failed four times in the past, so why bring it back now?

Commissioners and managers, if you care about your fighters, you will reject open scoring before it is used in any future fights.

Jack
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Most of the changes that I have read over are good ideas. I'm not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread, but I would like Boxing to cut down the weight divisions. I believe there is like 17 of them which in my opinion is too many. I think it would make for better fights and be less confusing for casual fans to understand the sport. Less confusion means more fans which can only help the sport. However, I do like the idea of multiple champions in a division AS LONG AS THEY FIGHT EACH OTHER. We don't need 4 champions, but maybe 2 or 3 and then have them fight each other in super fights.
Col Reb
I would get the big fights on network tv. This is the only way to revive the sport. People need to know the stars, and short term losses would be realized in long term profits. Another thing i would do is create some type of international commission where there was only one belt per division. I know this second one will NEVER happen, but it sure would be good for the sport.
Warlord
Boxing needs to be on Network TV, period. At the very least, it should be on basic cable. The UFC reached the point it is at today for one simple reason: The Ultimate Fighter on Spike-fucking-TV.

It's so obvious even a caveman could do it. Boxing promoters, being one step below cavemen, may have trouble though.
Snoop
QUOTE (Warlord @ Apr 13 2010, 02:00 AM) *
Boxing needs to be on Network TV, period. At the very least, it should be on basic cable. The UFC reached the point it is at today for one simple reason: The Ultimate Fighter on Spike-fucking-TV.

It's so obvious even a caveman could do it. Boxing promoters, being one step below cavemen, may have trouble though.

Not to mention UFC started airing FREE fights on Spike as well. It's too bad "The Contender" flopped. It was a good idea, but the production value sucked.
Fitz
  • Less divisions, but this far ahead, could be complicated to lose some of them
  • Same day weigh in's, though this is only applicable if they cut weight divisions. If they don't cut weight divisions, then NO to same day weigh ins, if they cut them. Have same day weigh ins.
  • Pay some fighters less. Or don't give them a figure until the fight is done. Agree on a purse split, and then add bonuses that come out of a pot
  • Put more money into undercards, which is part of the top fighters getting less.
  • Do background stories like 24/7 for more fights, and not just PPV fights
  • Show fights for free, or at least PPV fights at a later date for free. Nobody is going to pay for fights they don't know anything about such as the fighters.


The problem is, they are marketing boxing with all the PPV's for existing boxing fans. They are not doing it to gain new ones. How do they expect to gain new fans by making PPV's for guys casual fans would never have heard of.
Everybody is in it to make a buck right at this moment, but nobody is interested in sacrificing a buck to make it more marketable in the long run.
Warlord
QUOTE (Snoop @ Apr 12 2010, 09:03 PM) *
Not to mention UFC started airing FREE fights on Spike as well. It's too bad "The Contender" flopped. It was a good idea, but the production value sucked.

The Contender didn't really flop, and the production values were fine. I think editing the fights is what pissed people off, one. And two, everyone knew it was a gimmick from the start. Stallone tried his best to make it like a real-life Rocky, but he went too hollywood with it.

He may have even, if I dare say, classed it up a bit too much. Everyone was a (portrayed) good guy, except Ahmed Kaddour, who was put off as the cocky showboat terrorist chanting "Allah Akbar!" before every fight. (Ahh, he was my favorite fighter from that show too. laugh.gif)

Stallone would've done well to put a bunch of young, hungry fighters together alongside some old, nearly dead fighters hungry for a comeback, and then watch the fireworks fly. It worked wonders for the UFC and SpikeTV.

Let's face it, Chris Leben getting sprayed with a water-hose and then busting up the entire house with bloody fists (Quiet! Diego's trying to sleep!) is infinitely more interesting than Jesse Brinkley's double-wide bringing their two kids for a visit, or Anthony "#1 Dad" Bonsante sobbing and openly weeping over his own two little shits.

That shit was just too much. People want to see carnage on a fight show, not fucking family bonding. You have to get down and dirty, and it was down right hilarious to see boxing pretending as if they were above doing such.

Snoop
QUOTE (Warlord @ Apr 13 2010, 02:38 AM) *
The Contender didn't really flop, and the production values were fine. I think editing the fights is what pissed people off, one. And two, everyone knew it was a gimmick from the start. Stallone tried his best to make it like a real-life Rocky, but he went too hollywood with it.

He may have even, if I dare say, classed it up a bit too much. Everyone was a (portrayed) good guy, except Ahmed Kaddour, who was put off as the cocky showboat terrorist chanting "Allah Akbar!" before every fight. (Ahh, he was my favorite fighter from that show too. laugh.gif)

Stallone would've done well to put a bunch of young, hungry fighters together alongside some old, nearly dead fighters hungry for a comeback, and then watch the fireworks fly. It worked wonders for the UFC and SpikeTV.

Let's face it, Chris Leben getting sprayed with a water-hose and then busting up the entire house with bloody fists (Quiet! Diego's trying to sleep!) is infinitely more interesting than Jesse Brinkley's double-wide bringing their two kids for a visit, or Anthony "#1 Dad" Bonsante sobbing and openly weeping over his own two little shits.

That shit was just too much. People want to see carnage on a fight show, not fucking family bonding. You have to get down and dirty, and it was down right hilarious to see boxing pretending as if they were above doing such.

The fight editing killed it for me. It wasn't even bringing the real fight experience to the fans if they're going to show us clips and rob us the ability to judge for ourselves.

I guess I should replace my initial statement of "video production" with "video content". The Contender REAAALLLY drew out their episodes focusing on one thing, so I never understood why they didn't just fill in the time with showing the damn fight.
Lil-lightsout
Maybe some won't agree, but if the United States had an exciting active dominant Heavyweight Champion, more people would focus on boxing. Kind of like Tyson in his time. EVERYBODY knew Tyson.

I mean does anyone but diehards know who Haye is?

How many regular people know who the Klits are? Valuev? Chagaev? You get the point.

It definately is shocking the Klits are not superstars with there amazing exciting performances.
alaganza
Drop all the negotiations for the fights. 60 to the winner and 40 to the loser.

Keith

I have a simple one... judges scoring 10-10 rounds. It would make judging more accurate.
SmartyBeardo
Best actual boxing thread in a bit.

1. Judging must be improved and it must be insulated from corruption. All decisions should be reviewed. Each judge's work should be scrutinized independently. Poor judging should be punishable. I agree with Keith that judges should be allowed to score rounds even. Possibly, five judges should score the fight (including the ref). The most disparate cards should be thrown out.

2. Referees must improve. The job must be more standardized and scrutinized. Poor refs must go away.

3. As stated repeatedly in this thread, PUPVs must go away. The stench is killing the sport.

4. Boxing fans need to insist on an improved product and strike fear in those who would strong arm the independent forums that are the lifeblood of boxing today.

5. We must show strong support for things done right by promoters, fighters, networks, etc.

6. Weight class belt holders should be required to face each other.
Snoop
QUOTE (alaganza @ Apr 13 2010, 02:34 AM) *
Drop all the negotiations for the fights. 60 to the winner and 40 to the loser.

Good call. I never understood why they don't do that now.
Fitz
QUOTE (Snoop @ Apr 13 2010, 03:00 PM) *
Good call. I never understood why they don't do that now.


Because hypothetically you have someone like DLH vs Wright. The fight generates 'x' amount of dollars (lets say $30 million). Everybody knows full well that Wright didn't contribute much to it at all. Having any percentage in his favor is ridiculous because getting 60% of a percentage against someone like Williams or Hopkins wouldn't even generate 40% he would make off DLH, so it entirely isn't fair.
I was more thinking of a pot.
DLH-Wright should split lets say $25 million ($20 million for DLH and $5 million for Wright). The extra $5 million is a purse or jackpot which goes to the winner or something.
I still think the guy responsible for generating the money should get a portion. I just think that money should be put a side for performance. They shouldn't get everything until they complete their finished job.
Rivado
Fights on prime time and on regular channels- for free. If SHO can get friggin Strikeforce to be on Saturday night then SHO can deliver a world class boxing card on a SAT on CBS. It would be great if the next "Super Six" was on regular TV and on primetime. SHO/CBS make it happen! It makes perfect sense to do so and you know it. If not an actual fight card then atleast 24/7 and 360 type programming available to the general public to promote a big fight would be great.

BUT let's not kid ourselves. Boxing is an acquired taste - do we really NEED more casual fans? I mean if you are not going to really appreciate the art and history of the sport do we really need more half-assed fans tuning in? I like my boxing the way it is. But sharing with the rest of the world would not hurt - I guess.

alaganza
QUOTE (Fitz @ Apr 13 2010, 01:47 AM) *
Because hypothetically you have someone like DLH vs Wright. The fight generates 'x' amount of dollars (lets say $30 million). Everybody knows full well that Wright didn't contribute much to it at all. Having any percentage in his favor is ridiculous because getting 60% of a percentage against someone like Williams or Hopkins wouldn't even generate 40% he would make off DLH, so it entirely isn't fair.
I was more thinking of a pot.
DLH-Wright should split lets say $25 million ($20 million for DLH and $5 million for Wright). The extra $5 million is a purse or jackpot which goes to the winner or something.
I still think the guy responsible for generating the money should get a portion. I just think that money should be put a side for performance. They shouldn't get everything until they complete their finished job.


I wouldn't be completely opposed to that. However, in your first scenario as long as the "money" fighter won it wouldn't be an issue.
The CEO
QUOTE (Rivado @ Apr 13 2010, 03:27 AM) *
Fights on prime time and on regular channels- for free. If SHO can get friggin Strikeforce to be on Saturday night then SHO can deliver a world class boxing card on a SAT on CBS. It would be great if the next "Super Six" was on regular TV and on primetime. SHO/CBS make it happen! It makes perfect sense to do so and you know it. If not an actual fight card then atleast 24/7 and 360 type programming available to the general public to promote a big fight would be great.

BUT let's not kid ourselves. Boxing is an acquired taste - do we really NEED more casual fans? I mean if you are not going to really appreciate the art and history of the sport do we really need more half-assed fans tuning in? I like my boxing the way it is. But sharing with the rest of the world would not hurt - I guess.


I'm with that.
D-MARV
Just a couple of thoughts...


-Saturday night boxing on National Television. CBS, NBC, FOX, etc...

-More Tournaments (i.e Super 6)... Can you imagine a super 6 or a tournament for Welterweight, Light Heavyweight, Bantamweight and Featherweight?

-Better undercards for PPV events

Extant
QUOTE (D-MARV @ Apr 13 2010, 07:26 AM) *
Just a couple of thoughts...


-Saturday night boxing on National Television. CBS, NBC, FOX, etc...

-More Tournaments (i.e Super 6)... Can you imagine a super 6 or a tournament for Welterweight, Light Heavyweight, Bantamweight and Featherweight?

-Better undercards for PPV events



CO-SIGN!!!! NET-WORK TE-LI-VI-SION!!!!!!!! C'mon say it with me! NET-WORK TE-LI-VI-SION!!!!
Snoop
QUOTE (Fitz @ Apr 13 2010, 06:47 AM) *
Because hypothetically you have someone like DLH vs Wright. The fight generates 'x' amount of dollars (lets say $30 million). Everybody knows full well that Wright didn't contribute much to it at all. Having any percentage in his favor is ridiculous because getting 60% of a percentage against someone like Williams or Hopkins wouldn't even generate 40% he would make off DLH, so it entirely isn't fair.
I was more thinking of a pot.
DLH-Wright should split lets say $25 million ($20 million for DLH and $5 million for Wright). The extra $5 million is a purse or jackpot which goes to the winner or something.
I still think the guy responsible for generating the money should get a portion. I just think that money should be put a side for performance. They shouldn't get everything until they complete their finished job.

Fair enough. I still think there should be an incentive attached to motivate fighters to put in their best efforts. Some fighters just give up in the middle and say, "Fuck it, I'm getting paid either way."
Snoop
QUOTE (Rivado @ Apr 13 2010, 08:27 AM) *
BUT let's not kid ourselves. Boxing is an acquired taste - do we really NEED more casual fans? I mean if you are not going to really appreciate the art and history of the sport do we really need more half-assed fans tuning in? I like my boxing the way it is. But sharing with the rest of the world would not hurt - I guess.

I know I get irritated as fuck around these fairweather fanboy groupies hanging off the nutz of one or two overrated hype jobs. I guess in thinking about that, I wouldn't necessarily want more casual fans, but rather getting rid of all these technicalities that screw fight fans out of watching decent matchups more often. Right now we get GOOD fights maybe, what? 3 times a year? What kind of bullshit is that?

I think drawing in revenue from the larger casual fan base would encourage these greedy fuck promoters to start making good fights more often, rather than spreading them out over time and charging ass rape prices.
LoneRyu
cut bob arum out of the picture
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (LoneRyu @ Apr 14 2010, 07:34 AM) *
cut bob arum out of the picture


Possibly my favourite so far!
Douchebag
It would involve execution style murders.
SmartyBeardo
QUOTE (LoneRyu @ Apr 14 2010, 03:34 AM) *
cut bob arum out of the picture



QUOTE (The Conscience @ Apr 14 2010, 08:18 AM) *
It would involve execution style murders.

Or he could spread himself "out of the picture."
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