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Hittman25
There is alot ways this can turn out....

Paul Williams vs Floyd Maywheather

Sergio martinez vs Floyd Maywheather


Or

Manny Pacqiauo Vs Paul Williams

Manny Pacqiao Vs Sergio Martinez



If Floyd won the mega fight than a fight between either the two middleweights can take place at anyweight class expect sergio will not go to welter weight he is a 154 pounder so if manny won than he would have to make yet another jump in weight and win another world title but paul williams will fight at welterweight so the possiblities are intresting......

Also what should happen is a rematch with cotto and margrito at 154 if cotto beat yuri foreman and the winner of this to fight the winner of the second mega fight to make a third mega fight...

boxing is looking good.....thoughts on this ne one or matchs you would like to see...... the best must fight eachtother
Fitz
I have a real crazy idea, but still, hear me out. What if for once, maybe the winner could just stay in there weight class and defend their titles against the top 10 ranked fighters of their division. When they have cleaned out or can't make weight any more, go and move up? I know that's unheard of now, but that would be pretty cool as well I think.
JLUVBABY
QUOTE (Fitz @ May 12 2010, 05:20 AM) *
I have a real crazy idea, but still, hear me out. What if for once, maybe the winner could just stay in there weight class and defend their titles against the top 10 ranked fighters of their division. When they have cleaned out or can't make weight any more, go and move up? I know that's unheard of now, but that would be pretty cool as well I think.


same thing i've been thinking fitz....
D-MARV
Fitz is on point.

MAyweather shouold fight Pacquiao and clean up whatever is left at 147 (Berto, Possibly Bradley and Khan)... PWill needs to stay his ass at 160 before he gets fucked up messing around with this weight loss.
Hittman25
But there is really nobody worth it to theses types of fighters to stay in one division....i mean there is andre berto for the welterweights but in the middleweight division i cant think of another contender but in the light middleweight division there is cotto and margrito so meet halfway?....i would love to see floyd go up in weight its the only way we are gonna see him get tested beside pacqiauo
Fitz
QUOTE (Hittman25 @ May 13 2010, 01:33 AM) *
But there is really nobody worth it to theses types of fighters to stay in one division....i mean there is andre berto for the welterweights but in the middleweight division i cant think of another contender but in the light middleweight division there is cotto and margrito so meet halfway?....i would love to see floyd go up in weight its the only way we are gonna see him get tested beside pacqiauo


That's the whole problem, by not 'worth it'. You are talking about names that can make money by headlining PPV's which is bullshit. I have nothing against people fighting in mega fights to achieve the most possible money, but they are trying to do it for every fight now.
Guys like Hopkins, Tszyu, Darchinyan and many old timers clean out their division. There are plenty of good guys in the top 10 in divisions that aren't given the respect because they don't have a name to sell on their own.
Guys like Martinez, Wright, Forrest were guys that by your definition would not be considered 'worth it' at one point. But guess what? One guy gave them a chance and we got to see some pretty good fighters. Pacquiao as well, when he made a name from Barrera. Look at him now.
There are guys that are worth it, we just have a definition. To you, 'worth it' doesn't mean quality, it means someone that has the ability to sell a fight, which is becoming horse shit. Champions should fight top contenders and give everyone a chance, every now and again, go after a mega fight. But I am sick of guys now making a career out of it.
Spyder
QUOTE (Fitz @ May 12 2010, 06:20 AM) *
I have a real crazy idea, but still, hear me out. What if for once, maybe the winner could just stay in there weight class and defend their titles against the top 10 ranked fighters of their division. When they have cleaned out or can't make weight any more, go and move up? I know that's unheard of now, but that would be pretty cool as well I think.

I know, right?

That shit hasn't happened since Roy did it...

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BrutalBodyShots
A lot of fighters get greedy after big pay days. Mayweather is a perfect example. The guy won't fight a contender for 5 or 6 million, he wants big double digit money every time out. Hell the guy even changed his nickname to "money."

I agree with Fitz that only going after mega fights is BS.

Fitz
QUOTE (Spyder @ May 13 2010, 12:30 PM) *
I know, right?

That shit hasn't happened since Roy did it...

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It's annoying now. I didn't mind when Hopkins fought DLH and Trinidad, Mayweather fought DLH, Pacquiao fought DLH. It's great, when fighters have been fighting and they want to get paid. Now fighters are just trying to make a career out of it. From their stand point, sure they make money. From a fans point of view, too much of it sucks.
Without these guys giving guys in the top 10 a chance to achieve something and just worry about fighting guys that bring them money, we will find it harder to bring in the next super star. Plus, I think longevity, dedication and cleaning out your division is underrated. You are fighting the best the division has to offer, if someone else that thinks they are better, and wants to man up and take it away from you, let them come. I miss that, and it's why I am becoming a big fan of classes from 135 and down. Not as much politics, and you often get a lot of the top 10 fighting one another and getting some really good fights. Plus I have said before, that I agree, on paper, nobody beats Mayweather around his class. But that doesn't mean I don't want to see him fight top contenders at 147. Upsets happen, if we conceded that fights are pointless all the time because someone doesn't look like they have a chance on paper, there would be no such thing as upsets.
Nothing against fighters going to make some coin, I'm just not a fan of how frequent it is now becoming as a fan.
King Eugene
Didn't want to start a new post about it so I just thought I'd recycle another one but how did this go under the radar? Anybody hear about this?

Martinez to fight Wright or Mosley Next

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By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
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Newly crowned middleweight champion Sergio Martinez is exploring his options, and former undisputed junior middleweight champ Winky Wright might be in his future.

Martinez won the middleweight championship via unanimous decision from Kelly Pavlik on April 17. Earlier this week, Pavlik declined to exercise his contractual option for an immediate rematch, leaving Martinez's promoter, Lou DiBella, to look for another bout.

In December, Martinez (45-2-2, 24 KOs) lost a heavily debated majority decision to Paul Williams in one of the year's most exciting slugfests. But while both camps have said they are interested in a rematch, neither wants to do it next.

So DiBella told ESPN.com that he and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer are talking about a fall match with Wright, which they would hope to sell to HBO or Showtime.

"I have to pursue all possibilities for Sergio, and Richard and I have discussed both Winky Wright and Shane Mosley," said DiBella, adding that Wright was the one they discussed more seriously.

Schaefer, who also promotes Mosley, said he planned to meet with him next week to talk about his future. Mosley was soundly outpointed by Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a welterweight fight on May 1.

As for Wright facing Martinez, Schaefer said: "I talked to Lou. He's interested and I talked to Winky. He is ready, willing and able. I think it would be a very interesting fight. Do or die for Winky and big test for Martinez."

It's a fight Wright would like to have. He hasn't fought since a lopsided decision loss to Williams in April 2009, which came after a layoff of more than two years following his light heavyweight loss to Bernard Hopkins.

"I like Martinez. He has very good skills, a very smart fighter. That's the kind of fight I am looking forward to and to show why I was the undisputed junior middleweight champion," Wright told ESPN.com on Thursday.

Besides the middleweight belts Martinez owns, he also has a junior middleweight title. But he has not decided in which division he will defend. Boxing rules prohibit him from keeping both titles, so the division he decides to fight in will depend on the opponent.

"It all depends on my management and promoter and what they can bring to the table," Martinez said. "Whoever they bring, I will fight them. Either division would be OK."

DiBella said he and Schaefer did not discuss weight for a Wright or Mosley fight, but Wright (51-5-1, 25 KOs) said he would have to fight at middleweight.

If Martinez faced Mosley (46-6, 39 KOs), it would probably be at junior middleweight, where Mosley was once a unified titleholder before losing his belts to Wright in 2004.

"Martinez is a guy I would get up for, a guy I would be motivated to train hard for," Wright said. "I know I haven't fought for a while, but every time I go to the fights people ask me, 'When are you getting back into the ring?' I tell them there really hasn't been anyone to fight. I couldn't get a fight with Pavlik. Who else was there to fight? Martinez is the fight we're looking for. He really beat Paul and then he beat Pavlik.

"When I fought Paul Williams I was coming off an even longer layoff, more than two years. People gotta realize the position I was in. I didn't come back and pick and choose an easy opponent. Of course, I could fight and get three or four easy wins, but I want to fight the people that people think I will lose to. Williams was so tall and awkward. He was hard to fight, especially coming off a two-year layoff."

Wright said he and Schaefer have talked about Wright fighting tune-up type fights on undercards, but he said that does not appeal to him.

"I've been fighting almost 20 years and for me to really get up and fight on an undercard it ain't no challenge," Wright said. "The money is low and the stakes aren't high, so I am not driven to do it. In boxing you have to feel it. If I can't get a challenge there is no need to be in the sport. I need a good, tough opponent. Fighting just anyone ain't me.

"I talked to Richard and we're definitely going to do what we can do to get the Martinez fight. I don't see myself fighting too much longer unless we can come up with a good opponent. If I can't get a big fight, I will leave the game. I love boxing, but boxing is not all I want to do. I had a great career. I can say I ran from no one. There are not too many who can say that. I fought everyone. I hope I can get another good fight before I leave the game."

Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.
SmartyBeardo
What will they promote either of those match-ups as- "The Last Hurrah?"
JD
LOL...Sergio will embarrass Mosley.
D-MARV
QUOTE (JD @ May 19 2010, 08:14 AM) *
LOL...Sergio will embarrass Mosley.

Which is why they shouldn't make that fight. I'm a little disappointed in the fact they would rather fight Wright or Mosley before a rematch with PWill.
JD
QUOTE (D-MARV @ May 19 2010, 09:15 AM) *
Which is why they shouldn't make that fight. I'm a little disappointed in the fact they would rather fight Wright or Mosley before a rematch with PWill.


I would rather see the Williams fight...though I am assuming they expect him to stay at 154 and have a rematch with Cintron.
PR316
Martinez is gonna shut Mosley out. It will be very one sided.


I'd rather see Mayweather vs Martinez assuming of course that the fight with Pacquiao does not get made.
D-MARV
QUOTE (JD @ May 19 2010, 09:16 AM) *
I would rather see the Williams fight...though I am assuming they expect him to stay at 154 and have a rematch with Cintron.

I've heard that HBO already shot down a rematch.
JLUVBABY
QUOTE (JD @ May 19 2010, 07:14 AM) *
LOL...Sergio will embarrass Mosley.


yezzir!!!!
kidbazooka1
Martinez/Mayweather is the fight to be made if Pacqiuao/Mayweather doesn't go through.
D-MARV
QUOTE (kidbazooka1 @ May 28 2010, 01:57 AM) *
Martinez/Mayweather is the fight to be made if Pacqiuao/Mayweather doesn't go through.

I REALLY don't see that fight happening.
JD
I think the event to top all events will happen.
D-MARV
I was actually talking about the Mayweather-Martinez fight. I really don't see that fight happening.
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