QUOTE (Fitz @ Jun 17 2010, 06:23 AM)
I definitely don't think he is fighter of the decade. But he was definitely boxing face/figure of the decade like you said. I think Oscar was great in this decade, just for very different reasons, and hell he was definitely a world class fighter and one of the top p4p fighters of the decade. Just not the creme de la creme. But you could definitely right a very strong article about Oscar and his dominance of boxing (in a different way) and greatness for the decade.
He just definitely isn't with Mayweather, Hopkins and Pacquiao for purely boxing's best.
That said, I'm not really sure if you are being semi serious or sarcastic, lol. I think you know there is some truth, but exaggerating it as well at the same time. Sometimes you speak in such a sarcastic manner, even your emotions seem that way, lol. But you make true points which throw me off from time to time, haha.
Well I'm not being sarcastic...I'm being serious...and it PAINS me to admit that.
But seriously...think about it. I mean, first and foremost, who said that being "Fighter of the Decade" means that you're the best or the creme de la creme? Obviously it doesn't, otherwise they wouldn't have selected a fighter with 1 loss and 2 draws during this past decade.
I mean, Roy Jones Jr. was the BWAA Fighter of the Decade for 1990-1999. Personally, I disagree as I can't even think of one MAJOR fight that Jones was in from 1990-1999 other than Bernard Hopkins (1993) and James Toney (1994). Other than those two fights, name me another highly-anticipated fight that he participated in during that time period! The Montell Griffin rematch is the only one I can think of, and personally, I think that says a lot.
Before Jones, Sugar Ray Leonard was named the BWAA Fighter of the Decade for 1980-1989, despite having only fought 12 times during that timeframe. Just 12 fights in 10 years...that's pretty weak, but at least he fought Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns and Marvin Hagler in some of the most anticipated fights of that decade.
Poor Oscar though...the man was completely snubbed by a group of writers who made their living and their names off of him. It's absolutely disgusting if you ask me. I mean, here's a guy who was involved in EVERY major PPV event and probably fought more big names and elite fighters than Leonard and Jones COMBINED! I know some of you may be thinking that I'm off my rocker, but seriously...think about that for a minute. Quick...name me the biggest names that Jones and Leonard fought:
James Toney (Jones)
Bernard Hopkins (Jones)
Joe Calzaghe (Jones)
Felix Trinidad (Jones)
* Note that I didn't even mention Tarver's ass, since the only reason why he even has a name is because of Roy
Marvin Hagler (Leonard)
Thomas Hearns (Leonard)
Roberto Duran (Leonard)
Wilfred Benitez (Leonard)
I mean, don't get me wrong...I'm sure there's a couple of other names you can sprinkle in there for both guys...like maybe Hector Camacho or Terry Norris for Leonard, but I'm just throwing names out there off the top of my head.
Now do the same for De La Hoya:
Julio Cesar Chavez
Again, that's just skimming the surface...like Leonard, I also could have mentioned Hector Camacho, but the point is, De La Hoya has fought a lot of motherfuckers with big names and just like Leonard and Jones, he won some and he lost some. But how can you deny that De La Hoya was involved in nearly EVERY MAJOR EVENT from 2000 to 2008? Practically every "highly-anticipated" bout, every "fight to save boxing", every "PPV blockbuster"...basically, with the exception of a couple of years, just about every big fight that we, as fans, looked forward to from 2000 to 2008, De La Hoya was involved in. Take a look:
2000: De La Hoya vs. Mosley
2001: De La Hoya vs. Castillejo
2002: De La Hoya vs. Vargas
2003: De La Hoya vs. Mosley 2
2004: De La Hoya vs. Hopkins
2005: NO FIGHT
2006: De La Hoya vs. Mayorga
2007: De La Hoya vs. Mayweather
2008: De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao
Okay, so De La Hoya vs. Castillejo and De La Hoya vs. Mayorga weren't the most anticipated fights out there, and 2002 may have been overshadowed by Tyson vs. Lewis, but the point is, a lot of motherfuckers STILL tuned in to watch for the simple fact that it was De La Hoya who was fighting. I mean, Manny Pacquiao, God love him, but nobody was salivating to watch him fight. Just do a side-by-side comparison of their fights throughout the decade and you tell me which fights you were more anxious to see:
2000: De La Hoya vs. Mosley ..... OR ..... Pacquiao vs. Hussein
2001: De La Hoya vs. Castillejo/Gatti ..... OR ..... Pacquiao vs. Ledwaba
2002: De La Hoya vs. Vargas ..... OR ..... Pacquiao vs. Rakkiatgym
2003: De La Hoya vs. Mosley 2 ..... OR ..... Pacquiao vs. Barrera
2004: De La Hoya vs. Hopkins ..... OR ..... Pacquiao vs. Marquez
2005: NO FIGHT ..... OR ..... Pacquiao vs. Morales
2006: De La Hoya vs. Mayorga ..... OR ..... Pacquiao vs. Morales 2/3
2007: De La Hoya vs. Mayweather ..... OR ..... Pacquiao vs. Barrera 2
2008: De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao (TIE)
2009: NO FIGHT ..... OR ..... Pacquiao vs. Cotto/Hatton
I think a lot of you would agree that in AT LEAST six of those years, you were anticipating De La Hoya's big fights over Pacquiao's big fights. In 2008, they fought each other, so that year is a wash. So that means for just 3 years out of the decade, Manny Pacquiao had the bigger and more anticipated fights...and in 2 out of those 3 years, De La Hoya didn't even fight. Now that, my friends, says a lot.
I've never been the biggest Golden Boy supporter, but as much as it PAINS me to say it, he's the TRUE Fighter of the Decade...not Pacquiao, not Mayweather, not Hopkins, but De La Hoya. That's pretty fuckin' sad, but he TOTALLY got snubbed by all the genius members of the Boxing Writers Association of America.
For those that are curious, Roberto Duran was the BWAA Fighter of the Decade for 1970-1979, but can you name me anyone that he beat during that timeframe WITHOUT going to Boxrec to look it up? I'll give you one...Ken Buchanan...now name me another. To this day, I STILL don't know how those fuckin' idiots didn't give it to Muhammad Ali. I mean, they gave it to Ali for 1960-1969, and yet his body of work in the 70's (Frazier, Chuvalo, Quarry, Patterson, Norton, Foreman, Lyle, Shavers, Spinks) was a lot better in my opinion.
Stupid fuckin' BWAA.