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The CEO
Dos Santos and Velasquez would get annihilated...they don't have the weight or power to hang...

Fedor and Overeem could hang and possibly beat Lesnar...Josh Barnett as well if we're bringin' up non UFCers...I'd make Fedor a slight favorite and Overeem & Barnett the slight dogs against Lesnar if they came off...

First things first though...Carwin deserves a rematch.
BigG
Carwin needs to seriosuly work on cardio...he was gassed after ONE round..I mean he looked dead..and HE was doing the pounding.

As for Brock, I'm just not impressed. He has horrible stand up. He's just a wrestler that grinds opponents down with his size and strneght. He's a good athlete but I don't consider him anything close to a great champion. Just my opinion.
The CEO
QUOTE (BigG @ Jul 4 2010, 12:34 AM) *
Carwin needs to seriosuly work on cardio...he was gassed after ONE round..I mean he looked dead..and HE was doing the pounding.

As for Brock, I'm just not impressed. He has horrible stand up. He's just a wrestler that grinds opponents down with his size and strneght. He's a good athlete but I don't consider him anything close to a great champion. Just my opinion.


You're such a fuckin' hater, G...lol

The Chin and Toughness of Brock Lesnar compels you!
Warlord
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 3 2010, 11:33 PM) *
Dos Santos and Velasquez would get annihilated...they don't have the weight or power to hang...

Fedor and Overeem could hang and possibly beat Lesnar...Josh Barnett as well if we're bringin' up non UFCers...I'd make Fedor a slight favorite and Overeem & Barnett the slight dogs against Lesnar if they came off...

First things first though...Carwin deserves a rematch.

Dos Santos doesn't need size, actually, as long as he can avoid the takedown. Dos Santos can bang, and as we've seen again tonight, Lesnar doesn't deal well with getting punched in the face. He's really fucking atrocious on the feet.

Dos Santos just needs enough speed to avoid getting taken down. Carwin just gave up on his takedown defense because he was so fucking gassed. This fight would've been dramatically different had he discovered a heartbeat in the second.

Agree 100% with the rest of your post, except that I'd make Barnett a slight favorite as well. He's got the size and the pedigree to deal with Brock's girth.

Valesquez might as well go ahead and gift-wrap his balls and deliver them up to Brock's door. He has zero chance, as far as I'm concerned, outside of a fluke win which is always possible.
Spyder
Lesnar is the fucking TROOF!

No man can stand up to His fury.
The CEO
QUOTE (Warlord @ Jul 4 2010, 12:49 AM) *
Dos Santos doesn't need size, actually, as long as he can avoid the takedown. Dos Santos can bang, and as we've seen again tonight, Lesnar doesn't deal well with getting punched in the face. He's really fucking atrocious on the feet.

Dos Santos just needs enough speed to avoid getting taken down. Carwin just gave up on his takedown defense because he was so fucking gassed. This fight would've been dramatically different had he discovered a heartbeat in the second.

Agree 100% with the rest of your post, except that I'd make Barnett a slight favorite as well. He's got the size and the pedigree to deal with Brock's girth.

Valesquez might as well go ahead and gift-wrap his balls and deliver them up to Brock's door. He has zero chance, as far as I'm concerned, outside of a fluke win which is always possible.


I don't think his stand up will ever get any better either....but who needs stand up when you have the athleticism, size, and brute strength he has?...lol...that's what he should strictly do in his fights from now on...just rush 'em, take 'em down, and do his thing....fuck throwin' hands with meaning...and now everyone knows he has a chin...

I knew Brock Lesnar had a chin ever since that Shooting Star Press he attempted on Kurt Angle...where he landed on his head and finished the match with a full concussion...that's the type of botch that finishes guys' careers...I'm tellin' ya...this dude is tougher than a steel bag of iron...lol
kidbazooka1
Velasquez will take care of Lesnar when they meet.
thehype
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Lesnar doesn't have a chin...he got dropped with a weak uppercut for crying out loud.

Carwin just did a HORRIBLE job of finishing. Of course, it didn't help that the ref did everything possible NOT to stop the fight....shades of Kimbo Slice vs. James Thompson.

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No, seriously, props to Brock for surviving that 1st round beatdown and then submitting Carwin like he was a novice.

Still though, he SERIOUSLY has to work on his stand-up. I haven't read all the posts in here, but I think someone mentioned Junior Dos Santos giving him problems. I have to agree...Dos Santos might knock his ass out with a sneeze. LOL. It was DEFINITELY not a good luck to see Lesnar curling up in the fetal position after one uppercut. Pathetic. Still though, like I said, he survived. As soon as I saw Carwin coming out in the 2nd round touching gloves, I KNEW he was about to lose. Fuck that touching gloves bullshit...Carwin looked like he was content with the fact that he won the first round. Again...pathetic.

See...that's why I'll ALWAYS favor boxing over MMA. Don't get me wrong...I LOVE a good fight, no matter what the sport, but to see a guy dominate a round only to see him get put out so easily in the next round like a chump is EXTREMELY frustrating.

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Oh...and for the record, Fedor fucks Lesnar up in less than 60 seconds. EASY WORK! LOL!
Warlord
QUOTE (kidbazooka1 @ Jul 4 2010, 01:21 AM) *
Velasquez will take care of Lesnar when they meet.

I don't think so, bro. I mean, I certainly hope so, but I think not. Lesnar will give new meaning to Cain's "Brown Pride" tattoo, lol, cause he's gonna wipe his ass with Cain. Cain "The Stain" will be his new moniker after he meets Brock, because that's all he'll be, a little brown shit stain.

Cain is a wrestler with pillow hands. He won't out-wrestle Brock, and he ain't got enough power to stop Brock on their feet either.

Third time I'll say it. Dos Santos is your last great hope if you're a Lesnar hater like myself.
Warlord
QUOTE (thehype @ Jul 4 2010, 01:40 AM) *
Still though, he SERIOUSLY has to work on his stand-up. I haven't read all the posts in here, but I think someone mentioned Junior Dos Santos giving him problems. I have to agree...Dos Santos might knock his ass out with a sneeze. LOL.

That would've been me. laugh.gif

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Oh...and for the record, Fedor fucks Lesnar up in less than 60 seconds. EASY WORK! LOL!

I don't know about 60 seconds, but I'd definitely make Fedor the betting favorite. But you never can tell these days. I mean, Chris Leben winning by triangle has got to be one of the 4 signs of the apocalypse, doesn't it? I mean, damn.
KYLE THEEE SPINKS FAN
WOOOOOO! I'm not that huge of a MMA fan, but that was a damn good fight card. Most bars in the Minneapolis area ordered this, and it was packed at all of them. Brock reppin Minnesota well. I can't believe the fight wasn't stopped in that first round. Lesner was out, and he took lots of punishment. Even when Carwin kind of got off of him, Brock couldn't get up in that first round. Props for him to take that beating and come back and win in the next round. Hell of a night and hell of a fight card.
Warlord
Lesnar gets submission of the night? CRAP.

Lytle deserved that shit. How many times do you see a fucking mounted triangle? Never. Brock subbed a corpse. Where's the fucking skill in that? Dana White is such a fucking cumdumpster.

Oh well. At least Leben and Sexyama got fight of the night. Deservedly so.
AussieLad
Hats off to lesnar. I was amazed to be honest, especially after that first round beat down. Amazed that he survived and amazed at the submission. Carwin should have pressed forward in the 2nd, sure he gassed but keeping lesnar on the back foot was what was keeping him safe

Bring on velasquez. Another amazing fight on paper and probably in reality as well.
Run and Gun Game Calls
QUOTE (AussieLad @ Jul 4 2010, 09:00 AM) *
Hats off to lesnar. I was amazed to be honest, especially after that first round beat down. Amazed that he survived and amazed at the submission. Carwin should have pressed forward in the 2nd, sure he gassed but keeping lesnar on the back foot was what was keeping him safe

Bring on velasquez. Another amazing fight on paper and probably in reality as well.



That is the first fight Carwin has had, that went past the first round, and this one was almost stopped in the first. To Be Honest I am more convinced now than before that carwin is the future of the HW division. He has never needed great cardio.. I expect him to learn from his figh and come back much more dangerous
AussieLad
I was watching Carwin land grazing blows against tha cage, and at about the minute left mark i felt he shouldve let Lesnar get back to his feet while he was still dazed. The KO oppurtunity possibly wouldve presented itself. But instead he spent the final minute in a clinch

But lessons learnt. If they have a rematch, i will still take Carwin. Lesnar answered alot of questions. He has a chin and he has heart, and he has some submissions. Credit where credit is due.

I would like to see him vs Dos Santos. And the Velasquez match will be interesting.
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