QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 12 2010, 06:30 PM)

I like your optimism but everything you say is based on speculation. We don't know what she is like, we do know what Mel Gibson is like. This isn't the first racial thing he has said.
How many more instances do we need to hear, before we are able to judge Gibson?
Not really....more common sense than speculation.
Does it not stand to reason that he more likely then not....gets with women that shares his views?
Judge him all you like....but knowing basic common rules of relationships....I'd not be so quick to think she is any different. I can't see a chick that really hated bigots dating and spawning with Mel Gibson.
QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 13 2010, 01:43 AM)

It's because it was racial. Look, I often like to play devil's advocate, but I don't know how yourself or BG could try and defend him. There is no other way to interpret
"I hope you get raped by a pack of niggers"
Mel Gibson isn't a racist because he said 'nigger'. He was racist because of the context he put it in.
There is no defending him right now. Look, I can see that some people say things out of anger. I know I have said things out of anger that I would hope nobody heard me say out in public.
I'm not defending him. All of my posts that appeared to be were typed in a joking fashion....how can one say the word "nigger" in a soothing kitten snuggling way? lol
Seriously.....somebody needs to come up with a sarcasm font!
Sure he meant it in it's racial way. Like I said....the guy just does not care.
BUT....your last point is valid IMHO.....people say really, REALLY fucked up shit when they are pissed off OR drunk.
Do I think Mel Gibson will be adopting a Black African orphan anytime soon.....or that he will be stepping on a glass at his next marriage.....NO.
BUT do I think he secretly hunts the Outback country side lynching black people and worshipping Hitler in a home made alter to Nazi beliefs.....NO.
The guy is just another guy in the world that does carry a level of racism.....he is far from perfect in that respect....does that make him a monster....no.
There are just some people in this world that due to whatever reasons are going to harbor those feelings until the day they die.....this whole idea that anybody that does not automatically fall in line with today's PC line of thinking is evil or whatever is total BS.
Just because Mel Gibson uses racial epitaphs about blacks and Jews when angry and drunk does not mean he is a guy that does not work with those same people, exist with those same folks in a decent manner.
I mean hell....the man works in an industry that is 99.9% run by Jews.
It's nuts to think he does not manage to put aside all of his bigoted inclinations for the most part.
BUT....I suppose that is not good enough....people want him to MEAN that he loves blacks and jews.....like turning on a light switch people want a 55 year old man to change to modern day thinking....it's a bit unrealistic to me.
Do I think Mel Gibson is a bigot. YES....Do I care enough about that fact to label him an asshole and avoid his films....NO.