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JD
What does everyone think?
Method
I say they'll let him fight because they'll want to keep the money in-state.
Mean Mister Mustard
If they say no they could be adding another roadblock to future Mayweather-Pacquiao negotiations. When Vegas comes begging for the fight Arum might say "You know what, I'm sticking with Dallas and if Mayweather and his camp don't want it there then no fight."
lloyd mayflower
I say yes. No way is Vegas closing the door on a fight involving Pac. Not when like MMM said a Pac Mayweather fight MIGHT happen. They best make sure they are front runners come that day
Snoop
Money talks. I'd be surprised if they denied this fight.
JD
I tend to think they are going to give him the one fight exemption.

They tabled it last time, which showed that they did not want to deny him...but they also did not want to be the first to license him again. So it should be interesting.
Nay_Sayer
Who appoints the commissioners in Nevada? Or are they elected?
JD
They are appointed by the Governor.
Nay_Sayer
QUOTE (JD @ Jul 26 2010, 02:41 PM) *
They are appointed by the Governor.

Does the Govenor have the power to remove commissioners? If so, what political party does the current Governor of Nevada belong to?
JD
QUOTE (Nay_Sayer @ Jul 26 2010, 03:56 PM) *
Does the Govenor have the power to remove commissioners? If so, what political party does the current Governor of Nevada belong to?


Jim Gibbons is the Governor of Nevada...he is a Republican. The commission consists of part time people, so I am sure he could remove who he wants - but it is not worth it if they haven't done anything wrong.

I don't see this getting quite that political.
Seek
Apparently, in order for Margarito to reapply for a license in California, the commission is demanding Margarito to drop the lawsuit he filed against the CSAC. If this is in fact true, i'm under the impression that the NSAC is more than likely to grant Margarito a one fight licence.
Nay_Sayer
QUOTE (JD @ Jul 26 2010, 03:00 PM) *
Jim Gibbons is the Governor of Nevada...he is a Republican. The commission consists of part time people, so I am sure he could remove who he wants - but it is not worth it if they haven't done anything wrong.

I don't see this getting quite that political.

I'm willing to bet the Casinos have a lot of influence over a Republican Governor of Nevada. This fight means big $$$ for them. If the NSAC sends Pacquiao Margarito to *Mexico*, of all places, I could imagine a certain Republican Governor who'll be kissing a considerable portion of his reelection campaign contributions goodbye...
JD
QUOTE (Nay_Sayer @ Jul 26 2010, 07:24 PM) *
I'm willing to bet the Casinos have a lot of influence over a Republican Governor of Nevada. This fight means big $$$ for them. If the NSAC sends Pacquiao Margarito to *Mexico*, of all places, I could imagine a certain Republican Governor who'll be kissing a considerable portion of his reelection campaign contributions goodbye...


Republican...Democrat...I don't think it matters either way, I just don't see this fight as high profile enough to make that sort of impact.

They let Lewis - Tyson walk.
Nay_Sayer
QUOTE (JD @ Jul 26 2010, 06:34 PM) *
They let Lewis - Tyson walk.

IIRC, Lewis Tyson was a done deal in Vegas until Tyson imploded. They gave Mike every opportunity...
JD
QUOTE (Nay_Sayer @ Jul 26 2010, 07:47 PM) *
IIRC, Lewis Tyson was a done deal in Vegas until Tyson imploded. They gave Mike every opportunity...


Yeah...I think that's right. It was done, get canceled, and ended up in Memphis 5 or 6 months later.

With all that said, I still think the fight gets done because the Chairwoman wanted to give Margarito his license, or at the minimum a straight up and down vote, the other 4 did not.
thehype
ABSOLUTELY they'll let him fight.

I'm expecting it to pass with a 4-1 vote....the only question is who gets to be that 1?

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JonnyBlaze
Because he'd be fighting Pac-man,of course they'd let him fight anywhere..What city or state wouldn't want to be involved in a Pac-man fight??It's like sayin,who doesn't want money..
Nay_Sayer
QUOTE (JonnyBlaze @ Jul 26 2010, 09:35 PM) *
It's like sayin,who doesn't want money..


Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao.

They want nothing to do with Floyd "Money" Mayweather...

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thehype
QUOTE (Nay_Sayer @ Jul 26 2010, 10:39 PM) *
Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao.

They want nothing to do with Floyd "Money" Mayweather...

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Actually, it's just the opposite. The reason why Bob Arum doesn't want anything to do with Floyd "Money" Mayweather is because he DOES want money.

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Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that he'll want to make the fight, but for now, I think he'd like to make as much money as possible off of Manny before he fights Floyd, because regardless of if he wins or loses, that will likely be Manny's last fight and Arum knows that.

You gotta keep in mind that it's been a long time since Arum has made the kind of money that he's making off of Pacquiao. I mean, he never really got a chance to make that kind of money with Floyd because Floyd bought himself out of his contract right before he started getting the big PPV paydays (I believe the Judah fight was his last fight with Arum)...and De La Hoya had left Arum long before then (I think it was in 2001, prior to the Castillejo fight), so for the past 9 years roughly, Arum hasn't had that big ticket PPV guy.
Col Reb
That's a great point about Arum. So why does Floyd want to wait? Is he burned out? It just seems like time will reduce the interest in the fight as well as make Floyd slower with age and less sharp. He should take the fight sooner rather than later, if he even wants it. I think he knows he'll be favored to beat Pac, so I don't buy him being scared.
The Original MrFactor
QUOTE (Col Reb @ Jul 27 2010, 12:53 AM) *
That's a great point about Arum. So why does Floyd want to wait? Is he burned out? It just seems like time will reduce the interest in the fight as well as make Floyd slower with age and less sharp. He should take the fight sooner rather than later, if he even wants it. I think he knows he'll be favored to beat Pac, so I don't buy him being scared.



To add to these points, wouldnt it kill Mayweather vs Pacquiao if Pacquiao was to lose to somebody like Margarito? If that were to happen, I'd think that Arum would take a considerable loss. We all know that Mayweather will never fight Margarito if he beats Pacquiao. Depending on how bad Margarito beats Pacquiao, how lucrative would a rematch possibly be between the two? Arum's hate for Mayweather seems to be affecting his decision making, in terms of the most lucrative opportunities available. There was a chance that Pacquiao would beat Mayweather, then Pacquiao could likely reach DLH's numbers. Maybe Arum just aint that confident in his guy...
JD
Even worse...suppose Margarito beats Pacquiao, which would instantly make him one of the hottest fighters in the sport, and he can't even fight in the US.

caneman
I can't even guess, while @ 1 point I liked him, I say he should not be able to fight!
Jack 1000
I voted that they will tell Margacheato to go back to California, again.

But, I think from an economic standpoint, there would be a lot of political and social pressure from around the country if "Cheeato" fights in Nevada. In Mexico, they think that Margarito has done no wrong, and Arum knows that, supports that, and could see greater money lining his pockets with Margarito fighting in Mexico than in Nevada.

To the people of Mexico and with the strong WBC backing with Arum as well, by Margarito fighting there, it takes the pressure off. In the USA, their are far few people that want Margarito to fight than in Mexico.

Jack
Nay_Sayer
This whole mess underscores the reason why we need a *National* boxing commission...
caneman
QUOTE (Nay_Sayer @ Jul 27 2010, 01:29 PM) *
This whole mess underscores the reason why we need a *National* boxing commission...



Screw that if it's government run! Those scum don't deserve anymore control than they already have! But in any case, something does need to be done for realz!
Nay_Sayer
QUOTE (caneman @ Jul 27 2010, 01:40 PM) *
Screw that if it's government run! Those scum don't deserve anymore control than they already have! But in any case, something does need to be done for realz!


No way can the Feds screw up boxing any more than it's screwed up now....
caneman
QUOTE (Nay_Sayer @ Jul 27 2010, 03:02 PM) *
No way can the Feds screw up boxing any more than it's screwed up now....



I think the feds can fuck up a free BBQ bro!
JLUVBABY
heres the deal the feds could only regulate boxing within the u.s... boxing is a worldwide sport...
The Original MrFactor
QUOTE (caneman @ Jul 27 2010, 02:40 PM) *
Screw that if it's government run! Those scum don't deserve anymore control than they already have! But in any case, something does need to be done for realz!



Its already government run. Nevada State athletic commission, California State Athletic Commission etc... They are all state government run. I think the argument is for them to all fall under one umbrella. A federal commission may be more effective, that way, you deal with one set of people and one set of rules for the fight game. I'm in favor of that.
Lil-lightsout
They will probably let Margarito fight, way too much bullshit and politics and money to be made. I would be very surprised to see him get denied.

Also, anyone who thinks Margarito did not know about the brick put in his wraps really needs to sit down and think about this clearly. I have wrapped peoples hands and have had mine wrapped countless times. There is NO fucking way the person wrapping can slip in the brick unnoticed. Just think about it and put yourself in that position and does anyone really think its possible?

I wish AM would at least come clean.
rusty_trombone
Mexico? Bob Arum must have Pac fucking brainwashed to get him to agree to fight a guy who was caught loading his gloves, in his home country, in front of what will probably be a hostile crowd sympathetic judges and refs. If I was Pac, I would make him fight me in Manilla.
Snoop
If the NSAC turns down Margarito and they're forced to move the fight to Mexico, does matchup lose any legitimacy? I mean how can it even be for a belt if a state athletic commission won't license the fighter?
D-MARV
QUOTE (Snoop @ Jul 28 2010, 08:10 PM) *
If the NSAC turns down Margarito and they're forced to move the fight to Mexico, does matchup lose any legitimacy? I mean how can it even be for a belt if a state athletic commission won't license the fighter?

You know... I was thinking about that too.

How in the hell can a fighter NOT be licensed to fight but can fight for a major Title?
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