QUOTE (BGv2.0 @ Aug 26 2010, 01:25 AM)
Sorry Hype...but I think you are letting your dislike for Haye really blind you on this topic.
I do get people being pissed with him due ot the level of shit talking...but how you can really take Sosnoski and Jonhson and all those bums over the 3 Haye has beaten...is beyond me.
NOW...when you compare Barrett, Valuev and Ruiz to a list of guys from the 80 or 90's....they do pale in comparison...but with this current HW state of affairs....that is a very decent run, for sure when you consider that Haye is only 3 fights into the division and between both bros only Wlad fought Barrett once in all these years....and that was YEARS ago.
People can dislike haye all they want....I don't blame them...BUT to say he has done zero at HW thus far is BS.
There is very little difference between haye taking the fight with Fraudley and Vitali taking Sosnowski.....were you as vocal about that fight? If not...you should have been.
BUT....I think it's more a case of you being aggrivated with Haye more than anything else.
Actually, I don't dislike Haye at all. He's actually a pretty cool dude if you ever meet him...funny as shit. I hate THE FACT that he ain't blazing through the heavyweight division like he said he was going to do, but I don't hate THE GUY.
How can I take those 3 over Haye's 3? Very simple. Because 1) I think Sosnowski knocks Monte Barrett the fuck out (surprisingly, the guy wasn't really doing all that bad against big Klit), 2) I think Johnson beats John Ruiz pretty easily and 3) I think Arreola bum rushes and knocks Valuev the fuck out. So there you go...Klits last 3 are better than Haye's last 3...in my humble opinion.
And actually, I was EXTREMELY vocal about Vitali fighting Sosnowski as opposed to an opponent more worthy of a title shot, whether that would have been James Toney (who was ranked #5 at the time by the WBC while Sosnowski was ranked #14) or anyone else. In fact, when you see my quote below, you'll notice that I indeed called Vitali a BITCH for doing essentially the exact same thing as Haye...handpicking easy competition. It's got nothing to do with me being "aggrivated" with Haye. Quite frankly, I could give a flying fuck what he does or doesn't do in the heavyweight division because...well...because the division, as a whole, sucks serious monkey balls. But still, a BITCH move is a BITCH move and I call it like I see it...and honestly, I've seen WAY more BITCH moves from Haye since he moved to the heavyweight division than anyone else. Do I think the Klits pull BITCH moves as well? Absolutely, and I call them on it too, but out of all the BITCHES in the heavyweight division, David Haye, by far, has to be the biggest BITCH of them all.
Haye's da biggest BITCH that you've seen thus far....Haye's da, Haye's da biggest BITCH that you've seen thus far...Cuz it's just anotha day in da life of a goddamn BITCH!
And for the record, I never said he didn't do zero at heavyweight...however...the little that he has done has been far from impressive, in my opinion. I mean, knocking out Monte Barrett is something Cliff Fucking Couser could do. That fool has been shot ever since the Owen Beck fight. Truth be told, I was more disappointed with the fact that he couldn't cold knock him the fuck out in the first round. His BITCH ass gave him way too much respect. I mean, I can understand a faded cat like David Tua not icing Barrett, but man, David Haye is young and in his prime...he should be steamrolling though a cat like Barrett as if he were the next coming of Mike Tyson. And beating Valuev by decision...and a Majority Decision at that...please! Fucking Holyfield's old ass looked just as good, if not better, against Valuev than Haye did...and yet Holyfield's the one that needs to retire? LOL. And Ruiz? Man, how the hell was Ruiz able to scrape himself off the canvas two times in the first round AND STILL go another 8 rounds? Even worse than that, when John Ruiz is your best win at heavyweight, that says a lot about your career as a heavyweight. If David Haye was the KILLER that he claims to be, he would have ICED all three of those guys in DOMINANT and IMPRESSIVE fashion. Instead, he cautiously finished off all three, fighting more like a BITCH than the KILLER he promised us he would be. Sorry man, but yes, he's a BITCH and his level of BITCHASSNESS continues to grow with every fight he takes. Shit, if he's all that and a bag of chips like he claims to be, I'd MUCH rather see him fight Bernard Hopkins, who's CONSTANTLY called him out, than fight Fraudley. But you and I both know he won't do that. LOL.
But anyway, like I said before, he's not the only BITCH in the division, so it's all good as far as I'm concerned.
First and foremost, James Toney has ALWAYS talked trash about anyone and everyone...fighters, reporters, promoters...doesn't matter...so I wouldn't make it sound like he's just doing it now because he's at the end of his career.
Second, since when do you need a "legit" reason to be a title challenger? Was Mike Tyson the top contender when he fought Lennox Lewis? Was Danny Williams worthy of a title shot when he fought Vitalia? Was Hasim Rahman worthy when he fought Wladimaria? FUCK who's worthy and not worthy. If we're going by that logic, then TECHNICALLY, Ray Fuckin Austin should be fighting Vitalia next since he's the WBC mandatory. In fact, come to think of it, James Toney is ranked #5 by the WBC...meanwhile, this Sosnowski cat is ranked #13 by the exact same organization. So not for nothing, but James Toney has a lot more right to fight Vitalia than this bum does.
No ifs, ands or buts about it....VITALIA IS A BITCH!
And the heavyweight division SUCKS ASS because nobody is making any meaningful fights. Look, whether you think James Toney has a shot or you think he's gonna get pounded into the canvas, either way, the motherfucker is coming to fight and that's what the heavyweight division is lacking...motherfuckers who are willing to fight. We got A LOT of BITCHES in the heavyweight division...Vitalia and Wladimaria aren't the only ones.http://www.fighthype.com/community/index.p...st&p=476065