QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Oct 6 2010, 05:08 AM)
Zab WAS the man at welterweight(briefly), after he lost to Spinks, he no longer was the man. He lost in January 2006 to Baldy, and 3 months later he gets a shot at the P4P king!!! I do not care how anyone tries to justify that fight, it's a farce. I would have 1000 times rather PBF fought Margarito or anyone else decently rated at that time.
Speaking of questionable resumes, here is Floyd's in the last 5 years.
2005- Past his prime blown up welterweight Sharmba Mitchell.
2006- Hey I just lost my previous fight Zab Judah.
2006- Baldomir...need I say more.
2007- Seen better days Oscar DeLa Hoya.
2007- Blown up jr. welterweight Ricky Hatton.
2009- Really blown up lightweight Juan Manuel Marquez
2010- Good win against Mosley, though not his best days(SSM), beautiful performance by Floyd regardless.
Regardless of all the BS in boxing, this is pretty shitty and hardly someone who claims himself to be the GOAT. There were better fights out there, and this is only 7 fights in 5 years.
First and foremost, I'm only "defending" Floyd's choices before his "retirement" after the Hatton fight, but let's see:2005- Past his prime blown up welterweight Sharmba Mitchell.
After Judah KO'd Spinks, the promoters were already setting up a Mayweather/Judah title fight AND the fans were clamoring for it. Since this was Floyd's first WW fight, I saw it as a tune-up for Judah (slick southpaw, slightly slower). Some see tune-ups as legitimate, some don't, but I saw it as a tune-up, not him ducking anyone.2006- Hey I just lost my previous fight Zab Judah.
Again for me it just boils down to who else was out there? Margarito? Fine. If you think Marg was the tougher challenge, like I said, that's cool. It's pretty much an "agree to disagree" kinda thing. All I know is that Judah gave Floyd his toughest fight to date and I was pretty damn entertained watching it.2006- Baldomir...need I say more.
As shitty as Baldomir was, NOBODY here can deny that he was, sadly enough, THE man at Welterweight. Might have been a lucky man to be there, might have been the shittiest fighter to have ever been there, but he was THE man nonetheless. And I bet you anything if Floyd took on Marg instead, people would start saying shit like, "Mayweather ducked Baldomir!" as asinine as that sounds.2007- Seen better days Oscar DeLa Hoya.
Going up to challenge a naturally bigger fighter for a 154 strap AND a career high payday was a bad choice? I can't hate on him for that. PLUS there were plenty of fight fans picking DLH to win this one. I mean who else was there to fight? Margarito? C'mon man. That doesn't make career sense OR financial sense. 2007- Blown up jr. welterweight Ricky Hatton.
I mean in retrospect the fight is ridiculous but at the time Ricky Hatton was an highly ranked (overhyped IMO) undefeated fighter. For whatever reason people were generally okay with this fight. I think most people would have been okay if he took on Hatton, Cotto, or Margarito at that point.2009- Really blown up lightweight Juan Manuel Marquez
I can agree with this one being questionable, but I think he did it to make a statement since Pacquiao struggled with Marquez and Floyd toyed with him. Not the best opponent, but after a nearly two year retirement, we could have gotten a lot worse.2010- Good win against Mosley, though not his best days(SSM), beautiful performance by Floyd regardless.
Apart from Pacquiao, Mosley was the best choice out there. But we seem to agree on this point. Regardless of all the BS in boxing, this is pretty shitty and hardly someone who claims himself to be the GOAT. There were better fights out there, and this is only 7 fights in 5 years.
Overall, I agree with you man. His resume does not reflect the GOAT status that he claims, and I've repeatedly stated my dislike of him boasting that. But looking at his WW resume pre-Hatton, it was just kind of a result of the circumstances, not that he was deliberately ducking anyone. I mean the only two things I think he could have done to have a resume live up to people's expectations was to 1) fight more often or 2) stop taking these retirements. Both legitimate criticisms, but at the same time, you question how much of it is Floyd and how much of it is just the current trend of how often fighters fight.
What Floyd does NOW is going to be crucial to his legacy, but I just feel people glance at his past and write it off before actually looking at it. So really Floyd's choices in opponents don't really bother me because I can empathize with why he made them, but what does bother me are the conclusions he drew from the choices he made.