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Fitz
This should be another tough fight to pick, could go either way. But I will go with Abraham by decision, though this is a fight where anything can really happen.

Though I will check out the odds, Froch I am guessing will be the slight underdog, may put some money on him. But will lean towards Abraham. Abraham should find it easier to land in this fight than his last against Dirrell, and I think the power on his punches will be the difference.
caneman
I took smurf by UD but nothing would surprise me in this fight! This should be another great fight that I look forward to seeing!
D-MARV
I hope to see Froch lay motionless on the canvas for several minutes. But the more I think about it, I lean towards Froch via UD. I predict that Froch will be up on the cards after the 10th round. After that it's anyone's fight.
Snoop
I just hope both these guys hurt each other.
gravytrain
I've Abraham by TKO. I just think Froch will make it into a war and once Abraham starts fighting after the 4-5 rounds he'll get Froch with big shots and really hurt him.
King Eugene
Both of these guys have some pretty sturdy chins so this most likely goes to a decision. JT had Froch hurt so I'm sure Abraham can hurt him as well. Thing is can he finish him. Froch is a tough sum-bitch. I think he'll get dropped but go on to win a tough decision. For some reason I want to see Abraham KO'd. I think Ward vs. Froch would be more entertaining than Ward vs. Abraham in the finals.
1zz
Abraham is one of the few "one punch" Ko artist in boxing currently and is very dangerous for Froch.

Considering on how Abraham becomes more sharper throughout a fight and Froch just becomes more sloppy it could end with Froch doing a Paul Williams imitation.
The CEO
I'll take Abraham in this one...

Froch has been declining since before he entered this tourney...and even though I think Abraham's power is overrated at Super Middle, I'm thinkin' he puts Froch to sleep....maybe early.


Froch will then go on to play Igor in the remake of Young Frankenstein...


streetlion1
Im leaning toward a Froch decision in this one. I dont like either guy but I think the fight will be a good one...Frochs better movement will be the difference in the end.
Maxy
Froch has been doing a lot of work to the body in sparring for this fight. Abraham don't like it to the body (notice how he has his shorts so high?) I see Froch out boxing him early, digging big shots into Arthur's midriff and going into the 2nd half of the bout with a commanding lead. BUT that is when it all becomes a little bit dodgy for me. Abraham, if he is able to, will up his game, and if he can force Carl into a brawl I see him stopping Froch. However, I'm banking on Carl to be smart enough not to engage in a slug fest, to lose a bit of the bravado and to eek out a slim UD.
ROLL DEEP
I don't understand how people cannot like Froch?



Limited skill, yes, but he has BAGS and BAGS of heart and courage and puts on an entertaining show EVERY TIME. He never fails to be in a dull fight. He always presses the action, throws punches in bunches and fights like it's his last outing all the time.


I'm hoping that Abraham's punching power is a little overrated and Froch wins on a UD, but I've got a horrible feeling that Froch will get stopped.


They're both true WARRIORS and it'll no doubt be an absolute cracking fight. This is the type of fight boxing needs to pull people back to watching it; two guys going at it.


C'mon Froch!!!
gravytrain
QUOTE (ROLL DEEP @ Nov 24 2010, 10:32 AM) *
I don't understand how people cannot like Froch?



Limited skill, yes, but he has BAGS and BAGS of heart and courage and puts on an entertaining show EVERY TIME. He never fails to be in a dull fight. He always presses the action, throws punches in bunches and fights like it's his last outing all the time.


I'm hoping that Abraham's punching power is a little overrated and Froch wins on a UD, but I've got a horrible feeling that Froch will get stopped.


They're both true WARRIORS and it'll no doubt be an absolute cracking fight. This is the type of fight boxing needs to pull people back to watching it; two guys going at it.


C'mon Froch!!!


I've learned to like him more than I once did, especially after his post-fight interview after the Kessler fight and him calling out Sauerland. Before I just thought he was some asshole.

I've been thinking Froch would get stopped for awhile. Ever since the fight was announced. I just see him gassing in the late rounds and Abraham being too much for Froch's style. You never know though, Froch could bank the 5 rounds Abraham takes off then win enough to pull out a decision.
Maxy
I don't think we'll see Froch gassing in this fight. My only fear is he attempts to brawl which will play right into Abrahams' hands. If Froch is sensible, and I don't mean cautious, but if he boxes off the jab, like he can, despite every man and his dog claiming he isn't very technically adept, he can win this fight. Lets not forget he can bang a bit also, although I don't see him stopping Arthur unless it is with body shots.
JD
D-MARV
War Abraham!!!! To hell with Froch.
Maxy
QUOTE (D-MARV @ Nov 24 2010, 04:06 PM) *
War Abraham!!!! To hell with Froch.


Why hate on Froch?

War Froch!!!
SmartyBeardo
QUOTE (D-MARV @ Nov 24 2010, 01:06 PM) *
War Abraham!!!! To hell with Froch.



QUOTE (Maxy @ Nov 24 2010, 01:23 PM) *
Why hate on Froch?

War Froch!!!

"The sweet smell of napalm in the morning . . . WAR."!
gravytrain
Damn, looks like the UK and Germany is about to have a rubber match.

Brits, I hate to do it to you; War Abraham.
STEVENSKI
I like how Froch said Abraham likes to low blow & that is fine he just needs to know that I will give him one right back & I train MMA in my spare time so I have some moves in the clinch as well.
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (D-MARV @ Nov 24 2010, 09:06 PM) *
War Abraham!!!! To hell with Froch.


DMarv, were you not one of the loudest voices to hate on AA after the Dirrell incident?

Maybe my alcohol-destroyed memory serves me wrong here, but im surprised to see that from you.
The Original MrFactor
I like both of these guys. They both don't bullshit around. They fight!!! I expect a war. I expect to see both hurt. I think it will get to the later rounds. I think Froch will get his second wind in about the 8th(as he always does), then AA will knock him out because froch gets very comfortable with his 2nd wind. Kessler hit him with a brick once he got his 2nd wind. Abraham will finish him after the 8th round.
D-MARV
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Nov 24 2010, 06:23 PM) *
DMarv, were you not one of the loudest voices to hate on AA after the Dirrell incident?

Maybe my alcohol-destroyed memory serves me wrong here, but im surprised to see that from you.

My initial thoughts were that Abraham got frustrated and fought dirty against Dirrell. Giving his latest actions, Dirrell has proven to me that he's just a pussy. I never had anything against Abraham (I'm actually a fan) but I was pulling for Dirrell to win the whole tournament and he just let me down.
BigG
Froch by decision..Forch does his dirty ugly inside game I even see him holding and htting Abraham with uppercuts...hell work the body. He'll outwork Abrahm for most of the early middle rounds.
ROLL DEEP
QUOTE (Maxy @ Nov 24 2010, 03:23 PM) *
Why hate on Froch?

War Froch!!!



My point exactly!
Snoop
QUOTE (Maxy @ Nov 24 2010, 09:23 PM) *
Why hate on Froch?

War Froch!!!

Maybe because he's a cunt.
SmartyBeardo
QUOTE (Snoop @ Nov 25 2010, 03:14 AM) *
Maybe because he's a cunt.

That's a tad harsh, isn't it Snoop?

I think Froch is good for boxing. Dude aint afraid to mix it up, whether it is a fight, a drink, or with the ladies. What's not to like?

Abraham by brutal 5th round KO.
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Nov 25 2010, 02:26 PM) *
That's a tad harsh, isn't it Snoop?

I think Froch is good for boxing. Dude aint afraid to mix it up, whether it is a fight, a drink, or with the ladies. What's not to like?

Abraham by brutal 5th round KO.


Damn straight. Heres his GF, Rachael Cordingley



ROLL DEEP
QUOTE (Snoop @ Nov 25 2010, 06:14 AM) *
Maybe because he's a cunt.



? How come you've never called Mayweather that?

D-MARV
QUOTE (ROLL DEEP @ Nov 25 2010, 12:49 PM) *
? How come you've never called Mayweather that?

Mayweather is just insecure. Froch really thinks he's a gift to the world... He can fight though.
Maxy
QUOTE (Snoop @ Nov 25 2010, 05:14 AM) *
Maybe because he's a cunt.


Nah, he's a top bloke who is willing to fight anyone. Mayweather is a cunt.

QUOTE (D-MARV @ Nov 25 2010, 01:52 PM) *
Mayweather is just insecure. Froch really thinks he's a gift to the world... He can fight though.


Froch has mad self-belief and it's got him a long way. Again, Mayweather is a cunt.
PR316
QUOTE (Maxy @ Nov 24 2010, 12:31 PM) *
Froch has been doing a lot of work to the body in sparring for this fight. Abraham don't like it to the body (notice how he has his shorts so high?) I see Froch out boxing him early, digging big shots into Arthur's midriff and going into the 2nd half of the bout with a commanding lead. BUT that is when it all becomes a little bit dodgy for me. Abraham, if he is able to, will up his game, and if he can force Carl into a brawl I see him stopping Froch. However, I'm banking on Carl to be smart enough not to engage in a slug fest, to lose a bit of the bravado and to eek out a slim UD.


I'm in total agreement with you.

Froch is VERY underrated. Its true he doesn't have an eye catching style or all that but he's alot better than it appears. Ask Dirrell whom he thought was tougher and I bet he'd say Froch.

I think Carl will just outsmart Abraham in there. He'll box early, by the midrounds it'll be a war. Froch to me is the mentally stronger of the two. When he got hurt against Dirrell in the 10th, he fought back. When Abraham was outboxed by Dirrell, he resorted to hitting him with a blatant shot while the man was down to try and gain some advantage due to his frustration. Another thing is that Abraham is just not busy enough. His strategy too often consists of just waiting for his opponent to tire out. I don't think that gets it done. And contrary to what most feel, Froch DOES have the power to hurt him, if not stop him.

Froch via UD.
SmartyBeardo
QUOTE (PR316 @ Nov 25 2010, 11:40 AM) *
I'm in total agreement with you.

Froch is VERY underrated. Its true he doesn't have an eye catching style or all that but he's alot better than it appears. Ask Dirrell whom he thought was tougher and I bet he'd say Froch.

I think Carl will just outsmart Abraham in there. He'll box early, by the midrounds it'll be a war. Froch to me is the mentally stronger of the two. When he got hurt against Dirrell in the 10th, he fought back. When Abraham was outboxed by Dirrell, he resorted to hitting him with a blatant shot while the man was down to try and gain some advantage due to his frustration. Another thing is that Abraham is just not busy enough. His strategy too often consists of just waiting for his opponent to tire out. I don't think that gets it done. And contrary to what most feel, Froch DOES have the power to hurt him, if not stop him.

Froch via UD.

If Abraham has not made adjustments to his game (a la PWill), if he dances the same boring dance, then I agree with you that Froch will pull out the Decision. But, I think Abraham is coming out of his shell in this fight early. Froch will not be able to resist brawling and Abraham will punish him into submission in the middle rounds.
Maxy
QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Nov 25 2010, 01:53 PM) *
If Abraham has not made adjustments to his game (a la PWill), if he dances the same boring dance, then I agree with you that Froch will pull out the Decision. But, I think Abraham is coming out of his shell in this fight early. Froch will not be able to resist brawling and Abraham will punish him into submission in the middle rounds.


Although Froch has plenty of pop in his punches and can hurt Abraham, especially to the body, or with one of his uppercuts, he absolutely 100% has to avoid a brawl. Pascal buzzed Carl and when he does get clocked he tends to momentarily freeze....if he does that with Abraham he will be decapitated. I'm hoping he is smart enough to box for 12 rounds because I see that as his best chance for victory.
SmartyBeardo
QUOTE (Maxy @ Nov 25 2010, 12:00 PM) *
Although Froch has plenty of pop in his punches and can hurt Abraham, especially to the body, or with one of his uppercuts, he absolutely 100% has to avoid a brawl. Pascal buzzed Carl and when he does get clocked he tends to momentarily freeze....if he does that with Abraham he will be decapitated. I'm hoping he is smart enough to box for 12 rounds because I see that as his best chance for victory.

I agree.

I just don't think it is in him to resist the brawl, which is why I like Froch. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if he managed to get Abraham out of there.
Maxy
QUOTE (PR316 @ Nov 25 2010, 01:40 PM) *
I'm in total agreement with you.

Froch is VERY underrated. Its true he doesn't have an eye catching style or all that but he's alot better than it appears. Ask Dirrell whom he thought was tougher and I bet he'd say Froch.

I think Carl will just outsmart Abraham in there. He'll box early, by the midrounds it'll be a war. Froch to me is the mentally stronger of the two. When he got hurt against Dirrell in the 10th, he fought back. When Abraham was outboxed by Dirrell, he resorted to hitting him with a blatant shot while the man was down to try and gain some advantage due to his frustration. Another thing is that Abraham is just not busy enough. His strategy too often consists of just waiting for his opponent to tire out. I don't think that gets it done. And contrary to what most feel, Froch DOES have the power to hurt him, if not stop him.

Froch via UD.


Yeah but the only reservation I have about Carls mental strength is it borders on bravado and Abraham is the wrong fighter to get overly brave against. Froch is the sort of bloke who thinks "You sayin' I can't go toe to toe with you? You questioning my manhood?"
gravytrain
If Froch keeps his feet moving I think he can win. He's guaranteed to win 5 rounds because Abraham will be taking them off, if Froch doesn't just stand and trade punches he could put more rounds in the bank.

The biggest problem with the fight I see is Froch is a fighter that wants to brawl with you and rough you up and Abraham is just too dangerous for that.
Snoop
QUOTE (ROLL DEEP @ Nov 25 2010, 05:49 PM) *
? How come you've never called Mayweather that?

Maybe because this thread has nothing to do with Mayweather?

dntknw.gif

Mayweather's cunt-like tendencies were developed for his ring persona, it's more of an act for me. Over time I can't really tell how much of it comes from him really believing what he says, and how much of it comes from being insecure, just like D-MARV said. I think Froch REALLY believes his own shit doesn't stink.

But if it'll make ya'll happy, sure. Mayweather's a cunt too.

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ROLL DEEP
QUOTE (Snoop @ Nov 25 2010, 03:55 PM) *
Maybe because this thread has nothing to do with Mayweather?

dntknw.gif

Mayweather's cunt-like tendencies were developed for his ring persona, it's more of an act for me. Over time I can't really tell how much of it comes from him really believing what he says, and how much of it comes from being insecure, just like D-MARV said. I think Froch REALLY believes his own shit doesn't stink.

But if it'll make ya'll happy, sure. Mayweather's a cunt too.

laugh.gif


Yes, that makes me feel better. Thank you, Snoop.



But, Mayweathers cunt like tendencies supposedly developed for his ring persona, seem to be transcending into his real life with the past and present trouble he's having with the law.



I know this thread is about Froch, but when the word 'cunt' was typed, Mayweather instantly popped into my head laugh.gif


WAR FROCH!
Maxy
QUOTE (ROLL DEEP @ Nov 25 2010, 03:14 PM) *
Yes, that makes me feel better. Thank you, Snoop.



But, Mayweathers cunt like tendencies supposedly developed for his ring persona, seem to be transcending into his real life with the past and present trouble he's having with the law.



I know this thread is about Froch, but when the word 'cunt' was typed, Mayweather instantly popped into my head laugh.gif


WAR FROCH!


Because Mayweather is a cunt and Snoop don't know Froch.
Snoop
QUOTE (ROLL DEEP @ Nov 25 2010, 08:14 PM) *
Yes, that makes me feel better. Thank you, Snoop.



But, Mayweathers cunt like tendencies supposedly developed for his ring persona, seem to be transcending into his real life with the past and present trouble he's having with the law.



I know this thread is about Froch, but when the word 'cunt' was typed, Mayweather instantly popped into my head laugh.gif


WAR FROCH!

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Fair enough my friend, fair enough.

QUOTE
Because Mayweather is a cunt and Snoop don't know Froch.

This is also very possible. We're not given much exposure on Froch here on this side of the pond.
SmartyBeardo
Come on, every swingin' cocktail weenie on this site would love to be living Froch's life (with the exception of me). Dude is boring some serious hole.
Fitz
I don't know Froch at all outside the ring or how he acts. Is he generally a cocky cunt?
gravytrain
QUOTE (Fitz @ Nov 25 2010, 10:41 PM) *
I don't know Froch at all outside the ring or how he acts. Is he generally a cocky cunt?


He got his car keyed on an episode of fight camp so I'm guessing he isn't well liked.
BigG
Froch by UD. He will bust Abraham up all night but Abraham might hurt him bad late if Froch tires.
The CEO
QUOTE (Snoop @ Nov 25 2010, 05:14 AM) *
Maybe because he's a cunt.


This is an accurate assessment...

I used to like the guy...he used to talk shit and back it up....

but after watching him against Dirrell (all the rabbit punches, low blows, body slams) and hearing his bullshit speech after that fight, I realized he was just another cunting bin dweller...

smile_anim.gif


QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Nov 25 2010, 08:59 PM) *
Come on, every swingin' cocktail weenie on this site would love to be living Froch's life (with the exception of me). Dude is boring some serious hole.


lol...and me, and probably most everyone on this board...

I see it like this...

If you're a grown man....and you want to live Froch's (or ANY other man's life)....that would make you a loser.
SmartyBeardo
QUOTE (The CEO @ Nov 26 2010, 05:24 AM) *
This is an accurate assessment...

I used to like the guy...he used to talk shit and back it up....

but after watching him against Dirrell (all the rabbit punches, low blows, body slams) and hearing his bullshit speech after that fight, I realized he was just another cunting bin dweller...

smile_anim.gif




lol...and me, and probably most everyone on this board...

I see it like this...

If you're a grown man....and you want to live Froch's (or ANY other man's life)....that would make you a loser.

Vicariously, Boss, like porn or reality TV. Both of which can make for "loser" relationships.

Froch is a good character in the boxing carnival, IMO. I kinda like him. I kinda like PWill too. Froch is about to visit the same place PWill did last Saturday, only it will be in the middle rounds.
Maxy
QUOTE (The CEO @ Nov 26 2010, 07:24 AM) *
This is an accurate assessment...

I used to like the guy...he used to talk shit and back it up....

but after watching him against Dirrell (all the rabbit punches, low blows, body slams) and hearing his bullshit speech after that fight, I realized he was just another cunting bin dweller...

smile_anim.gif


But yet Dirrell is such a loveable, honest stand up guy ain't he?

Anyway, I'm looking forward to a great fight. I hope Froch can do the business but it's gonna be a tough one, no doubt about it.
JLUVBABY
the closer we get to fight time im thinking more and more that froch is gonna take this by convincing ud... froch i think will box effectively and when abraham gets close bust him up... dirrell unlocked a lot of secrets of abraham... and i think frochs boxing ability may be a bit under rated... im going with froch on this one... i thought he beat kessler and just may be the little bit better goods...
D-MARV
QUOTE (Maxy @ Nov 26 2010, 08:57 AM) *
But yet Dirrell is such a loveable, honest stand up guy ain't he?

Anyway, I'm looking forward to a great fight. I hope Froch can do the business but it's gonna be a tough one, no doubt about it.

Dirrell certainly has a lot of bitch in him but he schooled the fuck out of Froch and Abraham.
Maxy





Froch 167, Abraham 168
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