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neophyte7
Too bad he is done... only because his gorilla ass has not the work ethic to get in shape. He can still fight but at his age he would have to work out and stay in shape and that is something that gorilla face is not committed so therefore he needs to STFU...

Great fighter held back by being a fat ass
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Dec 6 2010, 08:55 PM) *
Too bad he is done... only because his gorilla ass has not the work ethic to get in shape. He can still fight but at his age he would have to work out and stay in shape and that is something that gorilla face is not committed so therefore he needs to STFU...

Great fighter held back by being a fat ass


I think James has earned the right to say whatever he damn pleases. You on the other hand........................
neophyte7
I can see you love James Toney as a fighter and that is fine... he is an all time great and Of course he has earned the right to talk shit in a sense. I am saying he needs to STFU yet he has the the freedom to act like an Ape as he wants to ... it is his constitutional right. I have the same right to say what I want... have I earned that right by paying taxes in this bitch for the past 25 years. AMERIca IS A great country...
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Dec 6 2010, 10:27 PM) *
I can see you love James Toney as a fighter and that is fine... he is an all time great and Of course he has earned the right to talk shit in a sense. I am saying he needs to STFU yet he has the the freedom to act like an Ape as he wants to ... it is his constitutional right. I have the same right to say what I want... have I earned that right by paying taxes in this bitch for the past 25 years. AMERIca IS A great country...


It's really clear to me neither do you understand nor appreciate James' sense of humour. That's Ok I'm sure there are enough Mayweather videos on the internet where you can catch Floyd clowning around with Ellerbee and doing silly homo-erotic dance routines if that's what floats your boat ;-)
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Dec 6 2010, 03:08 PM) *
Well he's what 41? 42? Of course he's done. Whaddya expect? HOF here he comes. First ballot easy plus they'll give James an honourary key to his local BK.


Fuck you Ollie with your damn BK jokes! laugh.gif

Toney's my favorite fighter of all time, just in case you did not know,lol. He has always made me laugh with his crazy talk and antics. It's just his personality and he is being real, not like that fake ass Oscar. Sure I can understand people disliking him with the way he acts. But me I always loved his ways.

In recent years it definitely would have been nice to see him way more active with the fighting part, not just the smack talk part. It is also sad that he was never able to control his eating habits and what not. It sure hindered his performances in the ring, but I am sure it will even be a bigger problem in these coming years. It is a shame there is no one that seems to be able to truly help him, cause he obviously can not do it himself.

As a boxing fan, I am so thankful for being able to watch Toney the last 20+ years fight. I have some amazing memories of many of his fights. He is the most complete fighter I ever seen in the ring. Thanks James!!!
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Dec 6 2010, 11:32 PM) *
Fuck you Ollie with your damn BK jokes! laugh.gif

Toney's my favorite fighter of all time, just in case you did not know,lol. He has always made me laugh with his crazy talk and antics. It's just his personality and he is being real, not like that fake ass Oscar. Sure I can understand people disliking him with the way he acts. But me I always loved his ways.

In recent years it definitely would have been nice to see him way more active with the fighting part, not just the smack talk part. It is also sad that he was never able to control his eating habits and what not. It sure hindered his performances in the ring, but I am sure it will even be a bigger problem in these coming years. It is a shame there is no one that seems to be able to truly help him, cause he obviously can not do it himself.

As a boxing fan, I am so thankful for being able to watch Toney the last 20+ years fight. I have some amazing memories of many of his fights. He is the most complete fighter I ever seen in the ring. Thanks James!!!


Fucken hell he's not dead yet! That's one hell of a eulogy LL (and I agree with pretty much all of it.)

Personally I would love to see James on a celebrity version of Biggest Loser. Bob trying to motivate him and James just laying him out before taking Jillian out back for some sexy time then stealing a car and driving down to the nearest Taco Bell.

Afterwards James on the scale putting ON 10 pounds, he starts yelling at the scales saying they must be broken and screaming "I am NOT fat!!" laugh.gif
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Dec 7 2010, 04:00 AM) *
Fucken hell he's not dead yet! That's one hell of a eulogy LL (and I agree with pretty much all of it.)

Personally I would love to see James on a celebrity version of Biggest Loser. Bob trying to motivate him and James just laying him out before taking Jillian out back for some sexy time then stealing a car and driving down to the nearest Taco Bell.

Afterwards James on the scale putting ON 10 pounds, he starts yelling at the scales saying they must be broken and screaming "I am NOT fat!!" laugh.gif

laugh.gif You always have me laughing at your JT posts.

Ollie...it would be awesome to hang out with you and just watch classic Toney fights together and just shoot the shit!!!
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (Fitz @ Dec 7 2010, 06:19 AM) *
James Toney is definitely your weakness laugh.gif

Edit: Wait, who was that other big Toney fan from years ago that LL would get a long with? Was it ChicoEscuela or something like that?

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Dude... why you always messing with me about Toney? It's not like I ever bust your chops about being a Vic Darchinnyan nut hugger. laugh.gif

Oh...maybe I do, lol.

Anyway, I do remember Chico a little. But I really do not remember being buddies with him to be honest. Shit, I do not think anyone gets along with me on this board, lol.

The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Dec 7 2010, 06:06 AM) *
laugh.gif You always have me laughing at your JT posts.

Ollie...it would be awesome to hang out with you and just watch classic Toney fights together and just shoot the shit!!!


It would be more awesome to hang out and watch some classic Toney press conferences. laugh.gif Sam Peter 1 takes the cake (no pun intended.)
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Dec 7 2010, 10:13 AM) *
Yet, he is in control of his eating habits, so I would not say that "it is a shame." JT should have made the move out of a physical profession some years ago. I moved away from the more physically demanding work in my early 30's. The amount of time it took for conditioning was the determining factor. I immediately went from a constantly (over) trained 190 to 215- although I conditioned far harder than normal humans. Marriage to a woman who believes in keeping her husband well fed and long work hours have been my excuses for ballooning like Toney, but it really comes down to personal choices.

It is easy to make fun and/or criticize others from behind a computer screen. I'm not interested in walking in another person's shoes or stealing them. While JT is in the public eye by choice it does not mean that we know all the reasons behind his choices.

Thuggishness only gets you so far.


I honestly do not know how I should take your post. But hear is my response to the way I take it.

Toney has never had control of eating habits, back as far as the Tiberi fight he had issues. He also had issues in the Roy Jones fight losing weight the wrong way.

As for now, he could still be competing if he took better care of his body and ate better. Sure they are his "personal choices", but he is also a professional athlete which being in prime condition is pretty much one of the most important factors. As far as the age factor, means nothing. Sorry but I can name many fighters in their late 30's and 40's that still can get in good physical condition(Hopkins, Holyfield, Glen Johnson, etc.). And Toney has had issues with weight for a long time now, this just is not something recent.

We all know Toney likes to be in the gym and train, BUT it is his eating habits IMO which have always plagued him. It is pretty simple to see considering his body shape for years now. I also know first hand that it is more to do with diet than conditioning when controlling ones weight. You can do all the conditioning in the world, but if you are constantly pigging out and not taking care of your body, you are still going to be overweight. I know it is harder as you get older but its still attainable, but sorry and I love Toney, but it is pathetic the shape he comes to fights. He is a professional fighter, their ONLY job, the least he can do is come fit and ready for himself and the paying fans.

I am not touching your last two brief paragraphs.
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Dec 7 2010, 06:08 PM) *
It would be more awesome to hang out and watch some classic Toney press conferences. laugh.gif Sam Peter 1 takes the cake (no pun intended.)


OR maybe we could go watch him train and heckle him while he spars? Then afterwards we could take him to get something to eat, preferably a buffet. We would tend to save a lot of money going that route. laugh.gif
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Dec 7 2010, 07:37 PM) *
OR maybe we could go watch him train and heckle him while he spars? Then afterwards we could take him to get something to eat, preferably a buffet. We would tend to save a lot of money going that route. laugh.gif


A buffet would be the only way we would come out of that without having to mortgage our houses laugh.gif

I would only heckle James safe in the knowledge that I can out run him................. however if he started to visualise that you were in fact a giant Whopper there is a good chance he may catch you.
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Dec 7 2010, 07:29 PM) *
Not my best post.

My point is that he should have changed professions awhile back.

By the way, it is good to have you back on the board more regular. Hope all is well.


Oh...okay man. I see what you are saying.

Really appreciate that.

I have been having a really crappy last few months. Basically to make a long story short I have/had a really bad groin injury that has plagued me for a while now. It has gotten so bad lately that I have been out of work for 3 months now and neither workers comp or short term has paid me. Both feel the other should pay. It's a really complicated situation which I now have to get a lawyer to sort this mess out. On top of that I have seen 4 doctors and got no real definite answers just all different opinions and solutions to what they think. Man it is real hard to trust the medical field with all these different things I hear from them. Well yesterday I just had inguinal surgery and hopefully this takes care of this when I heal up. Right at this moment I am in a lot of pain. There is way more involved but this is a glimpse of so much of my recent frustrations.
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Dec 7 2010, 08:36 PM) *
I hope you are willing and able to take something for the pain.

My daughter-in-law had been in labor for 16 hours with my first grandkid yesterday when they decided to do an epidural or some such. The first anesthesiologist spent nearly an hour failing to accomplish the procedure, having her bend over and try to touch her toes and shit (with my 9.5 pound grandson in transit, no less). The second anesthesiologist comes in and has it done in minutes, relieving her pain.

Not much different than dealing with any other professionals, like plumbers for example. Some are just plain shitty, some are adequate, some are good and some are artists.

I hope everything gets sorted out for the best, LL. By the way, when it comes to insurance companies, my first call is to my attorney. Motherfuckers will slap you around like a volleyball if they think they can get away with it. They get a call from an attorney and shit suddenly gets done that they claimed was impossible yesterday.


Congrats on the grandson! My wife is due in March with our third child...a girl this time!!! Those are my two sons in the pic.

That sucks about epidural! Has to be so frustrating and unnecessary.

I know this is a boxing forum, but I need to tell you what happened to me in 2000. I went to the ER with horrible stomach pains, and 8 hours later I was sent home saying it was probably just food poisoning. I was all drugged up and felt a little better after leaving later that night. Well after dozing off while watching Friday night fights on ESPN I awoke to the worst pain of my life! I was screaming and my girl and parents were luckily there and rushed me to a different hospital. My appendix burst and I had emergency surgery right then. The first words out of the surgeons mouth when I awoke the next morning was "you are lucky to be alive". My family doctor then looked at my bloodwork from the previous hospital, and it clearly showed something was wrong. Basically I almost died cause a hospital was over busy and a negligent doctor just sent me home while my appendix was burst. I even remember my mom mentioning to the first doctor if she thought maybe it was my appendix but she just brushed my mom off. Just felt like sharing.


I am sure this will get taking care of soon. I go back to the surgeon in a week and get all the info I need, then I will make some calls about what I should do.

Thanks again.
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Dec 7 2010, 09:16 PM) *
Congrats man, but I got to warn you, girls are a whole bunch more difficult (and complicated) than boys.


Hahaha. Oh I have heard, lol. But I am pretty confident with my wife raising her properly and hopefully not dealing with all/most of those complications. In all seriousness, I am married to the greatest most wonderful woman, and also knowing so many of my wifes female cousins, they ALL have turned out very well and down to earth very smart young women. I always joke with my wife because how close and nice and normal her family and relatives are. It's quite amazing, especially comparing them to my not so normal family,lol.
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Dec 7 2010, 07:02 PM) *
A buffet would be the only way we would come out of that without having to mortgage our houses laugh.gif

I would only heckle James safe in the knowledge that I can out run him................. however if he started to visualise that you were in fact a giant Whopper there is a good chance he may catch you.



You know we are JT fans cause we like shit talking just like him. I think he would appreciate us with our wisecracks towards him and would laugh with us.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Dec 7 2010, 11:24 PM) *
You know we are JT fans cause we like shit talking just like him. I think he would appreciate us with our wisecracks towards him and would laugh with us.


He would appreciate our wisecracks, but only if they came with extra cheese and mayo laugh.gif

P.S. Good to see you back LL, hope your situation improves soon.
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Dec 8 2010, 06:25 AM) *
He would appreciate our wisecracks, but only if they came with extra cheese and mayo laugh.gif

P.S. Good to see you back LL, hope your situation improves soon.

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and thanks man. friends.gif
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Dec 8 2010, 01:35 PM) *
Sounds like my wife and daughter and family. They are still women, difficult and complicated, which is what makes them worth the time and effort.

Lights Out TV should be a reality show of reality shows. Each episode JT would invade a different reality show. 1/2 of the show would be about James invasions. The other half would be James freestyle.

Instant cult classic.


Can I assume it would be subtitled? Imagine it in 3D? Dodgin bits of cheeseburger flyin out his mouth towards you
SmartyBeardo
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Dec 8 2010, 06:21 AM) *
Can I assume it would be subtitled? Imagine it in 3D? Dodgin bits of cheeseburger flyin out his mouth towards you

Imagine him doing a James Invasion on one of those reality chef off shows, or America's Next Supermodel or Joizy Shores. I am serious. That shit would be epic. PPV worthy. Mix in some guest commentator appearances at events all over hell.

Lights Out TV.

Go ahead, JT, it is all yours.
gravytrain
QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Dec 8 2010, 10:34 PM) *
Imagine him doing a James Invasion on one of those reality chef off shows, or America's Next Supermodel or Joizy Shores. I am serious. That shit would be epic. PPV worthy. Mix in some guest commentator appearances at events all over hell.

Lights Out TV.

Go ahead, JT, it is all yours.


They should just paint Toney orange and put him on Jersey Shore. The only reason people watch that show is to see people act like a damn fool, Toney will do that to make millions of dollars.
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Dec 8 2010, 09:21 AM) *
Can I assume it would be subtitled? Imagine it in 3D? Dodgin bits of cheeseburger flyin out his mouth towards you


LOL!!!

How did I miss this comment?

I know I would love a JT reality show.
SmartyBeardo
QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Dec 11 2010, 03:38 AM) *
LOL!!!

How did I miss this comment?

I know I would love a JT reality show.

. . . and you would PPV, LL.
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