QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Mar 2 2011, 06:17 AM)
We are on the same page, gt. Boxing in general has become too much a case of feeding designated losers to marketable guys (or those you hope will become marketable).
But, how does he become prepared? Is JCC jr being brought along properly? Or should it be more like JCC himself?
IMO, The Kid is ready for M Hatton and a meaningless belt. It is kind of ironic that 100% of the people on here think M Hatton has 0 chance, yet most seem to think GBP is (or will be) fucking up Saul's development.
I am not so sure Angulo makes short work of Alvarez. In fact, the more I think about it the more I like that match up. Kind of like chips and salsa. I win.
Alvarez is a cross over talent in Mexico. What I mean by that is that he brings a wider audience with lesser expectations to the table. IOW, he can get away with not fighting championship caliber comp (easier than Berto, for example).
That said, I lean more towards feeling that it is time to truly test The Kid's mettle (if he gets by Hatton). IMO, fighting Angulo, even if he lost in a firefight, would be better for Alvarez than continuing to treat fights like sparring sessions.
Why would it be a bad move? The Kid has experience beyond his years. I think over protection of the 0 is a worse move.
Let The Kid fight.
No rush, but do you want Alvarez to be a JCC jr, or a champion. How many fights has Pac lost? Or JMM? Or Soto? Or SMartinez? Or BHop?
What would constitute fucking it up? Losing his fucking 0?
It is time for The Kid to be kicked out of the nest and into the street. If he gets by Hatton (which he should), Alvarez is ready for the Angulo test. He might not pass it, but it certainly won't ruin him, unless he does not measure up to being a champion. If he lost, he would come back stronger, like those I mentioned above.
same way you bring along athletes in any sport; a good teacher, hard work, and increases in quality of opposition.
the big problem is that GBP isn't trying to bring him along, they want somebody right now. Alvarez isn't ready for elite opposition yet.
QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Mar 2 2011, 06:50 AM)
Those days never existed in our lifetimes, Ollie.
Nothing against it, but if a fighter was felt to be of truly high caliber they usually got/get their shot somewhere in their first 30 fights. Off the top of my head, Duran, Benitez, Camacho, Leonard, all got their shots before their 30th fight. the list is very, very long and goes waaay back.
That does not mean that it is right for Alvarez. But I think it is time for him to step up, not to the elite, but definitely to the Angulo level, within the next 12 months.
One of the reasons most get their shot at a title early on is the proliferation of belts. If not for that, you would see far more fighters waiting until later to get their so called shot.
they also paid their dues to get that title shot and would be fighting tough opposition around their 18th-20th fight, Alvarez hasn't even faced a top 10 opponent yet and he's about to get a shot at the "real" WBC title.
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Mar 2 2011, 06:22 PM)
i agree with this too... when are these guys gonna learn?... moving these fighters as fast as they are these days helps kill their investment more than it helps them...
i don't think they want to learn when they can become a champion fighting B and C level opponents, someone like Berto is making nice money for what he's doing too.
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Mar 2 2011, 06:21 PM)
hbo has this fight on its schedule for saturday night... did it change to ppv?
i really hope not, that would be a huge mistake for HBO.