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George Foreman has some advice for Bernard Hopkins, who will attempt to break the former heavyweight champ’s record of being the oldest fighter his history to hold a major title when he faces Jean Pascal in a rematch on May 21:

Go for the knockout.

Hopkins almost broke the record Foreman set by knocking out Michael Moorer at age 45 back in 1994 when he first faced Pascal in the light heavyweight champ’s adopted region of Quebec, Canada last December.

Hopkins, who turned 46 in January, got up from two early rounds knockdowns and outworked Pascal over the second half of the bout to earn a majority draw in an entertaining fight that most observers believed he should have won.

Foreman’s sagely recommendation to Hopkins is not to leave the rematch, which takes place in Pascal’s hometown of Montreal, in the hands of the judges again.

“These fights are not won by decisions,” Foreman, now 62, said during an international media call on Tuesday. “Hopkins has got to realize that he must get a knockout. This record will not be broken on a unanimous decision. I wouldn’t have won the title if I didn’t knock (Moorer) out.”

Foreman’s one-punch 10th-round KO of Moorer, who had taken the heavyweight title from Evander Holyfield in his previous bout, is one of the indelible images of boxing, and arguably all sports, from the 1990s.

The moment, captured live on HBO, which will televise Pascal-Hopkins II in the U.S., was the pinnacle of Foreman’s improbable comeback that had begum in 1987, 10 years after he retired from the sport following a unanimous decision loss to Jimmy Young.

Foreman, who defeated Joe Frazier in 1972 to win the championship and lost it to Muhammad Ali in ‘74, said he would not have regained the title at the advanced age that he did had he considered himself to be “old.”

“When you attempt something like that you can’t look in the mirror and think age,” said Foreman, an ordained minister who has made a fortune outside of boxing selling grills and other products. “You can read about your age and listen to other people talk about it, but you can’t think about it. In my mind, I was a 25- or 35-year-old fighter. All I thought about was that I had to go out there and score a knockout.”

Foreman points to Hopkins’ steely mindset and the brilliant boxing mind behind it as the reason the Philadelphia native has been able to prolong his career for so long, and why he believes the former middleweight and light heavyweight champ will break his 17-year-old record.

“Bernard is a thinking man’s fighter,” said Foreman, who called the action to many of Hopkins' bouts as a member of HBO's commentary team. “I didn’t realize it until the (Felix) Trinidad fight. I always thought he was just a rough and rugged fighter, but he showed that he was a thinking fighter against Trinidad. He used his jab and movement to set up punches and to control the entire fight.

“This man thinks while he’s active in the ring.”

Hopkins, who had a puncher’s reputation early in his career but gradually developed into a complete boxer, embraces his identity as a thinking fighter. The future hall of famer, who joined Tuesday’s conference call after Foreman held court, admitted that he’s no longer a knockout puncher.

“I would love to go in there and get a knockout,” Hopkins (51-5-2, 32 KOs) said. “The last time I’ve got a knockout was Oscar De La Hoya (in 2004), so there’s been a drought, but I‘ll be happy to give (Pascal) a beat down.”

Hopkins, who made 20 defenses of the middleweight title before losing it to Jermain Taylor via controversial split decision in 2005, said his opponents absorb more damage from his physical brand of boxing over the course of 12 rounds than they would if the were knocked out in the early or middle rounds.

“I’m more of a technician than a knockout puncher but I will give my opponents a beating,” Hopkins said. “By me not being a knockout puncher, it‘s worse for (my opponents) because it’s not just physical with me. I leave a mental beat down. I take your spirit.

“A lot of the young guys I’ve fought that were champions or could have been champions were never the same after I fought them. (Kelly) Pavlik (who Hopkins defeated in 2008) in one of the recent ones. Taylor, who I fought twice, was never the same. The 20-plus rounds we went didn’t do him any good. Trinidad was never the same. Robert Allen, (nicknamed) ‘Armed and Dangerous,’ out of Atlanta, Georgia, probably could have won a middleweight title if he hadn‘t faced me three times. Antwun Echols, who I fought twice, probably could have become middleweight champ if he hadn’t met me.”

Hopkins isn’t sure if he laid down a career-shortening beating on Pascal (26-1-1, 16 KOs), who mouthed off a lot during their kick-off press conferences in Montreal and New York, but he vowed to administer one to the athletic 28-year-old Haitian in the rematch.

However, with all due respect to Foreman, who THE RING rated No. 9 among the 100 greatest punchers of all time, Hopkins said he won’t press for the knockout.

“You don’t go in there looking for a knockout,” he said. “You have to set it up. You have to take smart risks. You go in there and press your opponent, but you don’t press the envelope so much that you get knocked out. If I get a guy hurt, trust me, I won’t back up, I won’t let him survive. That’s my instinct. That’s what a seasoned veteran does and a veteran knows that you don’t force a knockout. You create a knockout.”

Knockout or not, Hopkins said fans can expect another entertaining fight, one that is perhaps even more intense than the first bout was.

“If you thought I fought out of character for the first fight I can tell you that I will fight way out of character for this one,” he said. “I’m still going to be smart but I’m going to bring that old Philadelphia-type fight back for this fight.

“I promise you’re going to see the old Philadelphia Bernard Hopkins bringing that old Philly style back from the Bennie Briscoes and Willie ‘The Worm’ Monroes.”

Hopkins, who recently signed a three-bout deal with HBO that begins with the Pascal rematch, also promised to stick around for a few more fights after he makes history.

“The plan is to win the title and defend it at least two times in the span of one year, provided that I don’t sustain any injuries or bad cuts or things like that,” he said. “First Pascal, and then Chad Dawson (who fights former beltholder Adrian Diaconu in the HBO-televised co-feature on May 21) in the fall. I’d love to go back to Canada early next year and fight (undefeated super middleweight titleholder Lucian) Bute if his contract is up over at Showtime. And after that I’d love to fight the winner of the Super Six (super middleweight tournament).”


Looking at Dawson, Bute and then the winner of the S6.
caneman
I seen that from my facebook news feed...honestly, I want X to beat the shit outta Pascal and retire!
E.C.LEGEND
Easier said than done...he can win all of those fights except the Bute fight(the future of the middle weight division).
caneman
QUOTE (E.C.LEGEND @ May 10 2011, 09:08 PM) *
Easier said than done...he can win all of those fights except the Bute fight(the future of the middle weight division).



Maravilla can beat Bute IMO...whatever, someone from the super 6 will tag that ass!
E.C.LEGEND
QUOTE (caneman @ May 10 2011, 09:45 PM) *
Maravilla can beat Bute IMO...whatever, someone from the super 6 will tag that ass!

I'm torn...rjj fights the same day as bhop, hopefully its not tape delayed so I can watch both. lol Martinez vs Bute would be an awesome fight! I got froch winning the super 6. I'm rooting for the old men. lol
STEVENSKI
Personally I hope Hopkins gets a savage prolonged beating & knocked out.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (E.C.LEGEND @ May 11 2011, 12:12 AM) *
I'm torn...rjj fights the same day as bhop, hopefully its not tape delayed so I can watch both.


Don't worry Roy's fight shouldn't take too much of your time. Two, three minutes tops.
caneman
QUOTE (E.C.LEGEND @ May 11 2011, 12:12 AM) *
I'm torn...rjj fights the same day as bhop, hopefully its not tape delayed so I can watch both. lol Martinez vs Bute would be an awesome fight! I got froch winning the super 6. I'm rooting for the old men. lol


I would love to see BHop smoke Pascal! On Bute, I just haven't seen why peeps think he looks so great. I think anyone in the super 6 would beat him! If you were talk about Glen Johnson winning it would would great IMO, I don't how anyone could not like him. If Froch gets by Johnson him and Ward will be a good one, I can't see AA beating Ward and I have to be honest, at the start I didn't think Ward had a chance! He appears to be the best at the moment!


QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ May 11 2011, 01:32 AM) *
Personally I hope Hopkins gets a savage prolonged beating & knocked out.



Why do you hate BHop? I mean I can understand on that bullshit of rolling on the canvas vs RJJ and Calslappy cause BHop don't need to roll like that! I don't think we'll ever see a fighting perform at such a high level @ his age! It's amazing to me!

QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ May 11 2011, 03:45 AM) *
Don't worry Roy's fight shouldn't take too much of your time. Two, three minutes tops.



RJJ must be crazy fighting anymore...he keeps the shit up and he won't be even be able to talk well enough to do his job for HBO! I really wish he'd stop!
caneman
QUOTE (ViperSniper @ May 11 2011, 08:44 AM) *
I think he is looking WAYY to far ahead. Regardless of people's opinion on the 1st fight, beating Pascal again will be a big deal on it's own! I do think Pascal has more to work on in the rematch than Hopkins does.



AGREED and I want him to retire as well, his legacy is already in stone, I don't see the point! Has NOTHING left to prove!
Byrd Man
Fuck Bernard Hopkins, especially after his bullshit comments about Donovan McNabb. This attention whore needs to just go away. He's had an excellent career, now he needs to just retire. Pretend that his momma asked him to retire after whatever fucking birthday he's got coming up, and just go away.

Tired of this racist bitch. Always pulling some race comment out of his bag of tricks, either for Calzaghe or whoever. Now he's calling McNabb a house slave? Fuck him.
caneman
QUOTE (Byrd Man @ May 11 2011, 03:36 PM) *
Fuck Bernard Hopkins, especially after his bullshit comments about Donovan McNabb. This attention whore needs to just go away. He's had an excellent career, now he needs to just retire. Pretend that his momma asked him to retire after whatever fucking birthday he's got coming up, and just go away.

Tired of this racist bitch. Always pulling some race comment out of his bag of tricks, either for Calzaghe or whoever. Now he's calling McNabb a house slave? Fuck him.



When and where did he say that bro? And BTW what's up with your heath? Is everything alright...hope so!
Byrd Man
QUOTE (caneman @ May 11 2011, 02:43 PM) *
When and where did he say that bro? And BTW what's up with your heath? Is everything alright...hope so!


Yeah I'm doing good now, man. Thanks. Still have issues, but they're manageable.

And it's a new interview he did. here's the quotes:

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Boxer Bernard Hopkins, a Philadelphia Eagles fan, has ripped Donovan McNabb before. On Tuesday, he took his apparent disdain for the quarterback to another level.

Hopkins, in Philadelphia for his May 21 fight against Jean Pascal, invited reporters to watch him train Tuesday and decided to take additional verbal jabs at McNabb and even implied that the Washington Redskins quarterback wasn't black enough.

"Forget this," Hopkins said, according to the Philadelphia Daily News, and pointed to his own skin. "He's got a suntan. That's all."


According to Hopkins, McNabb had a privileged upbringing in Chicago and isn't as tough as himself, current Eagles quarterback Michael Vick or Cincinnati Bengals receiver Terrell Owens, who famously had a falling out with McNabb before being released by Philadelphia in 2006. Hopkins said Tuesday that McNabb and Owens essentially didn't speak the same language.

"T.O. got [into] the boardroom and saw the way they talked to McNabb. Coming from where he [came from] -- that's strange to some white people, when a black man speaks," Hopkins said, according to the Daily News. He said Owens "[wasn't] used to this language. [He's] used to speaking up.' "

Hopkins said that is why McNabb felt a sense of betrayal when he was traded by the Eagles to the Redskins before last season.

"Why do you think McNabb felt he was betrayed? Because McNabb is the guy in the house, while everybody else is on the field. He's the one who got the extra coat. The extra servings. 'You're our boy,' " Hopkins said, according to the Daily News, and patted a member of the media on the back to illustrate his point. "He thought he was one of them."

When contacted by the Daily News, McNabb's publicist said the quarterback would not have a comment.

While he questioned McNabb's mettle, Hopkins didn't take a shot at McNabb's integrity.

"Nice guy. I'd trust him around my kids," Hopkins said, according to the Daily News.
caneman
QUOTE (Byrd Man @ May 11 2011, 04:51 PM) *
Yeah I'm doing good now, man. Thanks. Still have issues, but they're manageable.

And it's a new interview he did. here's the quotes:



That is dumb...I don't get why he'd even say that shit! Who did the interview?
Byrd Man
Philadelphia Daily News, I believe. It's on ESPN and various other sites.
caneman
Sucks he would say that but whatever, I was thinking maybe it was Bernard Hernandez but I would think him and McNabb would be cool but I could see him talk shit on TO easily!
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (caneman @ May 11 2011, 11:37 PM) *
Why do you hate BHop? I mean I can understand on that bullshit of rolling on the canvas vs RJJ and Calslappy cause BHop don't need to roll like that! I don't think we'll ever see a fighting perform at such a high level @ his age! It's amazing to me!


It is not that I hate Hops. I really respect his career & accomplishments. He is old & needs to go. A brutal beating may help him with his decision.
D-MARV
I wouldn't mind seeing Hopkins take an L but not against Pascal. I much rather see him lose to a Chad Dawson or an Andre Ward. I haven't made my mind up about this fight though. I think it's silly to say that Hopkins will do the same thing he did last time minus the Knockdowns. Pascal fought a terrible fight and I think he has more room to improve. It will be a close fight either way. I can easily see Pascal pulling it off with Hopkins bitching about the judgment.
neophyte7
I was watching this fight again.. both of the knockdowns were not troubling to Hops at all... not hurt . First one to the back of the head. second seemed to land on the shoulder of hopkins. At any rate to see this 46 year old dance with and trade with Pascal is a MARVEL. hopkins has some of the best technique all time. His footwork even at 46 is among the best in the world. I see Hopkins putting on a historic performance. In round 3 when he was dropped. Hopkins attacked Pascal with a drive I had not seen since Antwun Echols II. Again. Hopkins is a monolithic legend of the sport. Among the elite greats of all time...
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