QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ May 14 2011, 05:09 PM)
Come on, man! You must know how ingrown, fungus ridden you're sounding now.
Honestly, this shit should be called The Philly Fungus. QB in the NFL takes one fuck of a lot more than a fucked up neighborhood upbringing. That argument makes some sense when it comes to boxing, but displays a "mentally weak" grasp of professional football when used to critique QBs.
#1. How bout the 1st start of his redshirt freshman season at Syracuse? Three 4th quarter scoring drives in a 20-9 comeback victory.
#2. Dudes do not get named Big East Player of the Year 3 years in a row without being clutch.
#3. TD pass on the last play of the game v Virginia Tech.
#4. 35-28 victory over the Redskins in his 1st NFL start.
#5. The 2000 season = Led Philly to the playoffs with literally no running game (other than himself), after Staley got injured.
#6. 54 yard run to set up the game winning field goal v the Redskins in 2000.
#7. Last minute TD pass to beat the Giants on Monday Night Football in 2001.
#8. Led 4th quarter comeback v Giants to win 24-21 in last game of 2000 regular season.
#9. The 4th and 26 miracle v the Packers in 20-17 OT victory, 2003.
#10. 2004, Eagles v Browns.
#11. 2004, Eagles v Vikings in the playoffs.
#12. 2004, Eagles v Atlanta in the playoffs.
#13. The entire 2008 season.
Many, many teams would trade their QB situations of the last 12 years for such a non clutch performer as Donovan McNabb.
This shit is nothing short of Deranged Philly Fan Syndrome.
The idea that in order for an African American to have the heart to win the Super Bowl he must have grown up in a fucked up neighborhood demonstrates pathetic "mental weakness."
Hahahaha. Eagles vs the fucking BROWNS? Are you serious? Freddie Mitchell's catch? I guess Eli Manning performed clutch in the Superbowl too, and that David Tyree's ridiculous, one-handed grab off of his helmet had NOTHING to do with it (or Asante Samuel dropping a sure fire pick). But this is about McNabb. Puking in the huddle (more than once) when his feet are to the fire. Running two-minute, hurry-up offenses like his feet are stuck in cement? Not knowing overtime rules and letting time expire for one of the only ties in recent history? Two years ago in the championship game vs the Cardinals McNabb throws the ball into the dirt over and over and over to lose the game IN THE CLUTCH.
Ask Redskins fans how he's making out down I-95. One and DONE. NOBODY wants him. Now the house cat is too proud to wear a wristband (cuz he cant remember plays) because he doesnt want to look stupid.
You can HAVE Donovan McNabb. Jeff Garcia played a helluva lot better than McNabb did when he stepped in after McNabb went down.
Nobody is going to trade their qb situation for McNabb when you KNOW that, during those 12 years, he won ONE championship title, and ZERO rings. It's about SUPERBOWLS. Its not about having the mose winning seasons.
He's NOT going to the HOF, bro. That should tell you all you need to know. Statistician's dream. Aspiring champion's nightmare. Major accuracy issues. Major leadership deficiencies. Could not get it done in the clutch.
Don't cite his college stats bro. Two different sports. I could give fuck all what he did at Syracuse. There are literally hundreds of college stars who amounted to fuck all in the NFL.
We've had these discussions about McNabb on these boards over the years, and so far, he's done NOTHING but prove me right.
Hell, man, I dare say Michael Vick's performance in the last 7 1/2 minutes versus the NY Giants this past season was greater than ANYTHING McNabb has done in his career. Carrying an entire team on his back to bring his team back from a dire deficit? You never ever saw Donovan McNabb do that.
There's a reason he got traded, bro.
All that shit said, I agree w you 120%, It takes a LOT to be QB in the NFL, and being brought up in the burbs of Chi w two parents has fuck all to do w it, and it also has NOTHING to do w why I don't think all that highly of McNabb. I dont believe he is able to bring it home in the clutch. On the big stage. I also think he's a whiner. Crying like a baby when he got benched by the Ravens, so much so that the Eagles had to throw him some shut-the-fuck-up money because his ego was bruised. Not being able to run a two minute offense. Never playing w any urgency. Not knowing the rules of OT.
Hopkins is dead on regarding McNabb;s lack of heart, etc. Not about the burbs and what not. MCNabb's just been too coddled. I know, based on the original Philly Daily News article and EVERYTHING else out there in print, that a LOT of sites took the ball and ran, hbasing their stories and comments off of what Hopkins seemingly IMPLIED, versus what he actually said. That's not for dispute. Read ALL the articles carefully. Never are they using direct quotes. Its all "Hopkins seemingly implying" "as if to insinuate".
But whatever. I love that all these DMV caliber mentalities in the media, etc., are in a frenzy.