QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 3 2011, 04:31 AM)
True fans should launch a class action against Bay the piece of shit who DESTROYED the greatest cartoon franchise in history.
All the reasons you listed above & the fact that it is difficult to distinguish who is who (especially decepticons) & overcomplicating the robot modes is a huge mistake. That excludes the racist stereotypes he overtly displays & ruins the 2nd movie with.
I tried to watch it with my GF who gets confused enough with the G1 cartoon (she thought Soundwave was a good guy for ages) & she said I don't understand who is that? Are they good? Who is the bad guy? This is stupid!
I agree with her assesment
That is the only true Transformers movie. As a massive fan of the G1 series & a collector of Transformers I see G1 as a level of purity that can never be reached by the Bayverse trash. I refuse to collect the movie line toys on principal.
I've always said Bey basically bent me over and raped me with an Optimus Prime toy in relation to raping my childhood. His reasoning behind major changes are so self centered it urks me! I mean, how can you fuck up Optimus Prime....I don't care if you make him a Mack, or a Peterbilt, or a Volvo.....all you have to do is make it a RED semitruck....that's it. When asked why he added blue flames.....his response...."because I like flames".....
GREAT....never mind 25 years of consistancy!
And you are toally correct in relation to the robots being overly complex.....9/10...I cannot tell where an arm begins and whose leg is whose....it's a like a jummbled mess of twisted shit.....it reminds me of cartoons when bugs bunny and daffy fuck would get into a fight and all you would see is clouds moving with arms and legs popping out.....lol
During the buildup for the first film...Bey once commented on how complex Jazz's gun was....saying that his gun alone had over 10,000 individual CGI generated peices. I new then he going to screw it all up.
Don't get me wrong...I understand that Hollywood would not want to give us the simple boxy transformations of the cartoon...and as a fan and with the capability of CGI....I would not want that. But it would be nice to have a middle ground between Bey's over complex world and the simplicity of the first.
And I think that will be the MAJOR problem for any poor director that has to try and right the ship. Bey has now set the bar with the sheep like masses that anything LESS than what he has given, will be seen as simplier and therefore not as good.
The only way I think it could be done would be to take it back to the American Civil War area....1860's. There was actually a comic done several years back in that time period that took all of the major cartoon players and put them in that time period....I think Optimus was a locomotive....or something. Starscream was a Red Baron looking propeller plane. Megatron was this huge cannon.
I think if they did that story line, the simpler transformations would be accepted due to the time period. PLUS...with it occuring during the civil war...civil war could still denote the battle between Autobots and Decepticons.
If you have not seen it, do a web search for some of those from that comic run, I think you would be impressed.
AND....for those that have not seen it check out the trialer for Troll Hunter on youtude.
Sorry that this thread has become so off topic....but after yesterday's fight...I doubt anybody really cares. lol