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caneman
So he broke his toe and sprained his pussy! ok now we know! pfffftttttttttttt
Jhill47
Broken Toe if u believe that shit I got some ocean front property in Idaho for sale
Cheesey1
QUOTE (Maxy @ Jul 2 2011, 06:29 PM) *
Fuck the excuses Haye. You got beat by the better fighter. You never managed to figure him out and that's all there is to it.

Well I guess that the reach difference was too much, which also limited Haye's chances of going to the body until the last couple of rounds. Wladimir did what he needed to do. The pushing down deserved a point deduction, but he definitiely used his height advantage well to defend himself. I'd watch a rematch, because I know that Haye would be a lot busier inside the next time. He was definitely able to get inside it was just that whenever Haye punched, Wladimir was able to defend himself/tie Haye up. If Haye had been busier, more punches like the one in the 12th round (which stunned Klitschko) would have found their way and ihe really should have gone to the body more.
Box in Hand
With a bigger fighter you have to start jabbing to the body first which will in turn bring the head down. Everything starts with the fucking jab and Haye should have known better. That toe shit is worst than Pacquiao saying he lost cause he had the wrong shoes on. This is the biggest fight in the division in years and Haye just used the wrong fucking game plan. Go back to Cruiser weight or go sit your dancing ass down somewhere.
Cyrenn
QUOTE (Maxy @ Jul 2 2011, 05:36 PM) *
Yeah but it's only dead cos Americans don't like the fact they ain't even got a David Haye level of fighter to compete and you know that's a fuckin' embarrassment to your nation. Your huge all conquering nation.

The toe excuse is a fuckin joke, Haye got beat cos he ain't good enough to beat Wladimir Klitschko. Simple as.



Don't get me wrong, I'll be the first to admit we don't got jack for heavy weights. We totally suck at that department. I like Kilttchko don't get me wrong. I just htink he could of had his way with Haye, Klitcho had him backed in the corner numerous times. I just felt he could of gave him a serious ass whoopin if he pressed the action more.

Haye on the other hand, not sure what he was doing. He doesn't look like he has any type of boxing skills.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (D-MARV @ Jul 3 2011, 08:32 AM) *
Yeah... whatever... I lost sig bets before. Fuck Haye. He made Dirrell look like Gatti!


I know but for fucks sake Marv. What has Haye EVER shown anyone to make them think he had a shot at beating Wlad? His prior form alone should show you he is a pea hearted hoax perpetrated by the British media.

Seriously mate this fight was always going to go one way only.
buford54
David Haye is garbage. He wasted his big shot. He pulled a Rahman and talked his way into s big fight them phoned it in. I hope he never gets a big fight again.
D-MARV
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 2 2011, 06:58 PM) *
I know but for fucks sake Marv. What has Haye EVER shown anyone to make them think he had a shot at beating Wlad? His prior form alone should show you he is a pea hearted hoax perpetrated by the British media.

Seriously mate this fight was always going to go one way only.

Honestly, If Haye would have just thrown some fucking punches... He would have KO'd him. Wlad may be the worst counter puncher in Heavyweight history. Haye just didn't fucking throw. Wlad was there for the taken... Tim Witherspoon would have been crowned new champion tonight!

I never thought Haye had the heart of a lion but I thought his explosive punching power would have overcome that... That was Fucking terrible.
The CEO
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Jul 2 2011, 06:42 PM) *
Well I guess that the reach difference was too much, which also limited Haye's chances of going to the body until the last couple of rounds. Wladimir did what he needed to do. The pushing down deserved a point deduction, but he definitiely used his height advantage well to defend himself. I'd watch a rematch, because I know that Haye would be a lot busier inside the next time. He was definitely able to get inside it was just that whenever Haye punched, Wladimir was able to defend himself/tie Haye up. If Haye had been busier, more punches like the one in the 12th round (which stunned Klitschko) would have found their way and ihe really should have gone to the body more.


I deleted this spoiling post in the weigh-in thread...I should suspend you for a month, but I won't...due to the nature of this farce...

Take this as a friendly final warning....please don't spoil fights.
Method
QUOTE (Cyrenn @ Jul 2 2011, 06:56 PM) *
Don't get me wrong, I'll be the first to admit we don't got jack for heavy weights. We totally suck at that department. I like Kilttchko don't get me wrong. I just htink he could of had his way with Haye, Klitcho had him backed in the corner numerous times. I just felt he could of gave him a serious ass whoopin if he pressed the action more.

Haye on the other hand, not sure what he was doing. He doesn't look like he has any type of boxing skills.


Klitchko is the biggest pussy to ever hit the heavyweight division. Period. End of story. Fights like a deer in headlights.
The CEO
LMAO @ STEVENS....you stuck it all the way in England on this one, buddy.....
Cyrenn



Since when did Pacquiao say he lost because he had the wrong shoes on? You mean when he had to fight with the wrong gloves and not his normal punching gloves. But at least Pac fought when he lost to Morales. Besides the fact they lost his blood before the fight so they actually gave him a blood test 2 days before fight night.


But of course I'm assuming your Mayweather fan and you'll never accept this video even though this was filmed 6 years ago.
BGv2.0
I know I'm in the small minority here....but I have no problem with this fight.

I would have liked to see Haye win becuase I think it would have shaken the division up and provided some much needed interest in the HWs.

My observations are as follows.

I think David gave a good account of himself, there were many who expected him to wilt after a Wlad tap on the chin....that did not happen.

I think he tried his best to fight a smart fight given the huge physical differences, and I think to a degree he did because he made it to a decesion...which NOBODY expected and when you look at Wlad....you could tell some leather was put on him, which is the first time in awhile that has taken place.

I DO NOT think he was faking the fall downs.....again that comes down to simply the huge differences in size. Add a wet canvas to a 30lb weight advantage and a 3-4 in height advantage....I don't think they were fake at all...it's simply the size difference.

I was entertained for the most part and do not think it was a terrible fight.

Now we can see if another smaller man can get the job done with Older Bro.


I think we took a few things from this fight that are very noteworthy.

David's chin is better than most think.

An opponent CANNOT AT ALL get into Wlad's head and get him to change his game plan.

Germans are morons for putting an event of this magnatude in an outdoor arena.

I for one would like to see haye continue in the division and earn another shot at Vitali.

As for Wlad....the guy is so nice it's hard to hate him on a personal level...you just can't. BUt...it was the usual performance...effective for the W. The Klit train rolls on.
JONdaCON817
I think ide rather America not have any HW then have Craig David pretending to be one... lol
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (D-MARV @ Jul 3 2011, 09:05 AM) *
Honestly, If Haye would have just thrown some fucking punches... He would have KO'd him. Wlad may be the worst counter puncher in Heavyweight history. Haye just didn't fucking throw. Wlad was there for the taken... Tim Witherspoon would have been crowned new champion tonight!

I never thought Haye had the heart of a lion but I thought his explosive punching power would have overcome that... That was Fucking terrible.


I have just never seen him display his explosive punching power at heavyweight ever. He beat a washed up worn out Jawny & that took a million shots anyway.

I think you went with emotion on this one mate. I know I have plenty of times.

QUOTE (Method @ Jul 3 2011, 09:06 AM) *
Klitchko is the biggest pussy to ever hit the heavyweight division. Period. End of story. Fights like a deer in headlights.


I have never seen him feign injury in a fight, flop to the canvas nor complain constantly to the referee like Hopkins. For a pussy he sure has a lot of stoppages on his record.

QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 3 2011, 09:09 AM) *
LMAO @ STEVENS....you stuck it all the way in England on this one, buddy.....



ABE son. England should feel a deep overriding sense of shame & disgust. Lloyd should feel pride that he is not English & Maxy should feel shame.

The Cats got beat last night. Haye got made look like the douche water he is this morning. Now just for my Hawks to beat Fitz's Pies & my weekend is complete.
Box in Hand
QUOTE (Cyrenn @ Jul 2 2011, 06:15 PM) *
Since when did Pacquiao say he lost because he had the wrong shoes on? You mean when he had to fight with the wrong gloves and not his normal punching gloves. But at least Pac fought when he lost to Morales. Besides the fact they lost his blood before the fight so they actually gave him a blood test 2 days before fight night.


But of course I'm assuming your Mayweather fan and you'll never accept this video even though this was filmed 6 years ago.



Uh oh we have a Manny Testicle rider on here. Go away puss.
bosco
Haye was just too small...6 foot 3 and 212 lbs versus 6 foot 61/2 and 242 lbs...It's sorta getting ridiculous..they need a super heavyweight division. The Klitschko's are too tall and big and just jab and lean back all the time. I was hoping Haye did more but he just not tall enough to get to him. Maybe
Cyrenn
QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Jul 2 2011, 07:19 PM) *
Uh oh we have a Manny Testicle rider on here. Go away puss.


Not a Manny testicle rider just tired of busters like you that don't know jack, your so closed minded.
Box in Hand
QUOTE (Cyrenn @ Jul 2 2011, 06:22 PM) *
Not a Manny testicle rider just tired of busters like you that don't know jack, your so closed minded.



Just admit you wear Pacquiao nut cologne and I will leave you alone. Getting all bent out of shape for no reason ya puss.
Cshel86
I gave Haye the first 4 rounds, but neither were doing much at all. I forgot how low the HW punch output was during rounds, so it was hard to tell. Overall, the fight stunk. Khan vs Judah anyone???
Cyrenn
QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Jul 2 2011, 07:23 PM) *
Just admit you wear Pacquiao nut cologne and I will leave you alone. Getting all bent out of shape for no reason ya puss.



LOL! Keyboard warrior. Tough guy.

I'm a boxing fan first. I just found it funny you had to throw in a pop shot at Manny. I've heard worse excuses before:) Like a blister on my f-ing toe.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (BGv2.0 @ Jul 3 2011, 09:16 AM) *
I know I'm in the small minority here....but I have no problem with this fight.

I think David gave a good account of himself, there were many who expected him to wilt after a Wlad tap on the chin....that did not happen.


You may be the only person outside that CUNT haye who thinks that.

QUOTE (BGv2.0 @ Jul 3 2011, 09:16 AM) *
Germans are morons for putting an event of this magnatude in an outdoor arena.


Nothing wrong with that. The ring was dry & the fans did not give a shit.

QUOTE (BGv2.0 @ Jul 3 2011, 09:16 AM) *
I for one would like to see haye continue in the division and earn another shot at Vitali.


I for one hope he gets kicked to death on the streets of London. He is a disgrace to all manly Cockneys & should never get another shot at anything lest alone a bigger stronger tougher version of the man he gave up his vagina to.
Cyrenn
QUOTE (cshel86 @ Jul 2 2011, 07:25 PM) *
I gave Haye the first 4 rounds, but neither were doing much at all. I forgot how low the HW punch output was during rounds, so it was hard to tell. Overall, the fight stunk. Khan vs Judah anyone???



Already purchased my tickets smile.gif I like both fighters, but have always been a fan of Zab. Plus Zabs new attitude and outlook on life. I would liek to see him come out on top in this fight.
Box in Hand
QUOTE (Cyrenn @ Jul 2 2011, 06:28 PM) *
LOL! Keyboard warrior. Tough guy.

I'm a boxing fan first. I just found it funny you had to throw in a pop shot at Manny. I've heard worse excuses before:) Like a blister on my f-ing toe.



Damn I got bored of you that fast. 2 more hours to UFC I was hoping to get some kind of intelligent remarks from you. Now go fight a shark you bum.
Cyrenn
QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Jul 2 2011, 07:31 PM) *
Damn I got bored of you that fast. 2 more hours to UFC I was hoping to get some kind of intelligent remarks from you. Now go fight a shark you bum.



Nawwww! I wish I could argue with you more, but the Palms Casino in Vegas just called me to bring my car so they can velvet rope it off for the kids:) to take pictures with it.,you know since Transformers 3 is out. It's great to see the kids excited they get a kick out of it.

Plus the chics dig it:)
bosco
QUOTE (Cyrenn @ Jul 2 2011, 07:28 PM) *
LOL! Keyboard warrior. Tough guy.

I'm a boxing fan first. I just found it funny you had to throw in a pop shot at Manny. I've heard worse excuses before:) Like a blister on my f-ing toe.

you're a slimeball Cyrenn...how did a Pacquiao video end up on a klitschko vs haye thread...go pork your mom
Snoop
This was the best fight the HWs had to offer? Damn. The division is in more trouble than we thought.
JONdaCON817
Anyone wanna see one of the Klits vs James Toney??... i bet he'll have the balls Haye is missing.
Snoop
QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 3 2011, 01:21 AM) *
I didn't score the fight, and maybe because I smoked too much, but the scorecards kind of surprised me, lol. I didn't think Wlad was landing anything big at all, he was missing a lot. Haye didn't seem to land as much, but it looked to me he landed bigger scoring shots.
I didn't enjoy this fight, both guys didn't let there hands go. But without scoring rounds, the fight looked close and at least competitive to me. I think there might be something wrong with me.

Haye had pretty impressive defense, even Wlad commented about how difficult it was to land. The problem was that Haye wouldn't capitalize on his defense.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 3 2011, 10:21 AM) *
I didn't score the fight, and maybe because I smoked too much, but the scorecards kind of surprised me, lol. I didn't think Wlad was landing anything big at all, he was missing a lot. Haye didn't seem to land as much, but it looked to me he landed bigger scoring shots.
I didn't enjoy this fight, both guys didn't let there hands go. But without scoring rounds, the fight looked close and at least competitive to me. I think there might be something wrong with me.


Yeah there is mate. Absolute shutout for Wlad.

What the fuck are you smoking for at 7.00am on a Sunday? That is Stevo type shit when I would get up in the middle of the night to smoke weed & watch EPL or boxing laugh.gif
D-MARV
I think you can give Haye 4 rounds at best! There were times where he made Wlad look like an amateur!

I had it 116-110 myself!
Cheesey1
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 2 2011, 07:05 PM) *
I deleted this spoiling post in the weigh-in thread...I should suspend you for a month, but I won't...due to the nature of this farce...

Take this as a friendly final warning....please don't spoil fights.

Sorry, I assumed that anyone who was interested would have watched the live broadcast. While I do appreciate the friendly warning, I'm not too fond of being threatened, especially by someone with the name C.E.O, so please go ahead and ban me and no hard feelings on my part.
Warlord
QUOTE (D-MARV @ Jul 2 2011, 07:39 PM) *
I think you can give Haye 4 rounds at best! There were times where he made Wlad look like an amateur!

I had it 116-110 myself!

I'll get your new sig to you in just a minuet, buddy.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Jul 2 2011, 09:12 PM) *
Sorry, I assumed that anyone who was interested would have watched the live broadcast. While I do appreciate the friendly warning, I'm not too fond of being threatened, especially by someone with the name C.E.O, so please go ahead and ban me and no hard feelings on my part.


I wouldn't push him.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
A few things about this fight.

Haye has a better chin than I credited him with. He took the power reasonably well.

Also his stamina looked OK in this fight. However where was the desperation? He knew coming to Hamburg his only chance was a KO and the only time he even looked remotely like he was going for it was in the 12th and he had some early success. In fact he finished the fight looking like he had plenty left in the tank and that is a no-no.

He had to be prepared to leave it all in the ring and as it turns out he wasn't prepared to. Instead he took the Shane Mosley route of blaming mitigating factors and clearly had one eye on his future fights rather than risking all and getting KO-ed.

Wlad, well he just did what Wlad does. I'm now pretty sure Manny just goes over there for those big ass paydays because I can't think he likes training such a passive fighter as Wlad.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 3 2011, 11:01 AM) *
Well I went to bed, and woke up at 6, made myself a cup of tea, and had a little one, haha. Sunday is a nothing day. Couch, and then I will be watching the Mighty Pies and the Hawkers. I hope we smash the piss and shit.
But I think it should be close, and a game the Hawks can win. We beat them once last year, and the second time we lost when Beams missed a goal after the siren that would have won the game. But the Hawks match up well with us in the past, and Buddy has had some good games against us.



I wish I could do that right now damm job applications! Sunday I was always incoherant by 2.00 in time for the footy & if it was fight day I would be out of it by 11.00am & unable to walk properly by 1.00.

Buddy the Golliwog better be on form today. As I said earlier Cats losing is good for both of us combined with Haye getting his shit pushed in can only be topped by the mighty Hawks getting over those fuckin Pies. What a weekend!

STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Jul 3 2011, 11:12 AM) *
Sorry, I assumed that anyone who was interested would have watched the live broadcast. While I do appreciate the friendly warning, I'm not too fond of being threatened, especially by someone with the name C.E.O, so please go ahead and ban me and no hard feelings on my part.



You are walking on thin ice indeed my friend.

Take Mr Walkens advice. "The ICE is gonna BREAK!"
D-MARV
Roy Jones JR hit it right on the head... Haye was banking on landing the big shot! HE never landed it and the few good shots he did land had no follow up!
iKeNjiro
I keep reading the fight was boring and decided to give my two cents

I picked Wlad to win by KO because I am a huge fan of Wlad
I wouldn't have mind if Haye won however because he adds the mouth and attention to the HW div. and that's missing

The fight was not boring
Haye found out really fast that Wlad is a lot faster and a lot stronger then what film shows
Haye had a very hard time getting in close and Wlad although very basic has mastered his technique
Haye did his best to get in close and with his style (Haye) he likes to jump off one foot) causing him to look very awkward and off balanced against a tall opponent
remember when he fought a very slow Nikolay Valuev, he brought in that same strategy and wasn't happening because Wlad is faster 1 and like I said he has mastered his basics

I enjoyed the fight
good win for Wlad wouldn't mind seeing a rematch to see if Haye can make adjustments and come up with a new game plan
Prov0
I was disapointed in Haye,he was fighting like he didnt want it bad enough no desire at all.Klitchs did good by sticking his jab but he could have got caught if Haye would have took more chances.
caneman
QUOTE (iKeNjiro @ Jul 2 2011, 08:37 PM) *
I keep reading the fight was boring and decided to give my two cents

I picked Wlad to win by KO because I am a huge fan of Wlad
I wouldn't have mind if Haye won however because he adds the mouth and attention to the HW div. and that's missing

The fight was not boring
Haye found out really fast that Wlad is a lot faster and a lot stronger then what film shows
Haye had a very hard time getting in close and Wlad although very basic has mastered his technique
Haye did his best to get in close and with his style (Haye) he likes to jump off one foot) causing him to look very awkward and off balanced against a tall opponent
remember when he fought a very slow Nikolay Valuev, he brought in that same strategy and wasn't happening because Wlad is faster 1 and like I said he has mastered his basics

I enjoyed the fight
good win for Wlad wouldn't mind seeing a rematch to see if Haye can make adjustments and come up with a new game plan





Enjoyed it??? Really? Wow, in any case you have to bring more to a fight then landing 1 big punch, Haye had no plan B,C or even D. All I know is I'd rather get KTFO than go out like Haye did! ZERO PASSION OR DESIRE...THE BIGGEST, MOST MEANINGFUL HW FIGHT IN YEARS? YEAHHHHHHHHHH
salvador
Haye never went for broke in the last two rounds. Fuck that piece of shit.

The really horrible thing is that the fight did big money and Haye-Vitali will happen and Haye will get another paycheck. this time, I seriously doubt he'll have thousands of Brits flying to see him.
The CEO
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Jul 2 2011, 09:12 PM) *
Sorry, I assumed that anyone who was interested would have watched the live broadcast. While I do appreciate the friendly warning, I'm not too fond of being threatened, especially by someone with the name C.E.O, so please go ahead and ban me and no hard feelings on my part.


Nah, man...that's not how I operate...

I just did a quick onceover of your posts, and I happen to like a lot of what you say...I don't think I saw one May or Pac reference in there...lol

It's just that rules are rules...I even put up a reminder in the preview thread not to spoil this fight...this was one of the biggest Eastern Hemisphere fights in quite some time, and this board is predominantly on American time...so since I saw it, and I'm a mod, I had to point it out...

Please stay and be yourself, AND remember not to spoil fights in the future...that's all we ask...

No threats, and we're totally cool....


Welcome to The FH Forum.

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Hotsauce
UFC>Boxing
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Jul 2 2011, 09:17 PM) *
UFC>Boxing


Not if you don't like UFC.
salvador
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 2 2011, 06:29 PM) *
I for one hope he gets kicked to death on the streets of London. He is a disgrace to all manly Cockneys & should never get another shot at anything lest alone a bigger stronger tougher version of the man he gave up his vagina to.


Jesus, that's so succinct that it's almost poetic. That should be the entire FH write up on the front page with no room for viewer comments.
Lil-lightsout
So I had a few hours to think about this fight, here are a few of my observations.

1-Haye showed some very good defense and stamina in there.

2-Haye severely underestimated how hard it was to hit Wlad in there. I truly believe he kind of gave up a little realizing it was harder than expecting hitting Wlad. Being 6'6" and having a vagina and octopuss arms has it's advantages.

3-Wlad looked confused and not to good the first 4 rounds to me, but with his style he won most of the rest of the way. He kept Haye way too defensive.

4-Man do I miss the days of Holmes, Tyson, Ruddock, Lewis, Bowe, Holyfield, Morrison, Mercer, Moorer, etc.

5- I did not like all of Hayes flopping, BUT why would you want a 250lb guy constantly leaning all his weight on you on the inside? I know plenty of trainers have told their fighters to take a knee when someone leans on you.

6- Why can not a damn referee just let them fight on the inside for once? I mean why constantly separate them after each tie up?Just break there hands loose and let them fight on the inside.

7-I realize everyone ripping on Haye cause all the shit he talked, but he did OK in there considering how Wlad has destroyed everyone else in recent years.

8- This division is so pathetic.

gravytrain
the fight happened just as i thought it would. Haye would stay on the outside without throwing anything and Wlad would get off more. he did better than i thought and i'm sure he did better than the people who though he would get stopped thought he would do but i didn't see anything from him to show me he really came to win tonight.

gravytrain
the best thing about this fight was when RJJ said "Haye didn't watch boxing 101, he watched RJJ 101. and he'll get knocked out right there with his hands at his sides"
Warlord
Haye is a bitch.

Somewhere Audley Harrison is smiling.

And where is Sentral? Man up, hooker!
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