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The CEO
Tarver over Green and Judah over Khan.

Tarver's at +240...

Judah's at +325...


$75 on it gets you $1000...


Whatcha think?
D-MARV
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 13 2011, 09:30 PM) *
Tarver over Green and Judah over Khan.

Tarver's at +240...

Judah's at +325...


$75 on it gets you $1000...


Whatcha think?

Damn, I like it... I may put down 50!

caneman
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 13 2011, 08:30 PM) *
Tarver over Green and Judah over Khan.

Tarver's at +240...

Judah's at +325...


$75 on it gets you $1000...


Whatcha think?



Nice risk reward ratio...very temping indeed! hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The CEO
Yeah...it's not bad.

More worried about Tarver than Judah....as he looked like stir fried shit in his last fight.

BUT...maybe, just maybe, that whole one-upsmanship thing he has with Roy has kicked in, and he'll give it an honest go....
BoxingWizard23
Man like I said....

Judah will save America and countless lives in that arena after he Internationally Assassinates The Terrorist
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 14 2011, 11:30 AM) *
Tarver over Green and Judah over Khan.

Tarver's at +240...

Judah's at +325...


$75 on it gets you $1000...


Whatcha think?


Bluntly put one of the worst bets I have seen.

When has Judah ever performed in a way that make you think he will beat Khan? When has he ever lifted for a fight? The only truly big fight he won was against Spinks & he needed two goes to get that right. Judah is a loser & a proven one at that.

Tarver stands a chance against Green but I think Green will bash him like a runaway slave. Tarver has slowed considerably & Green for his faults looks very comfortable at cruiser & has plenty of sting in his shots. He is no 1/2 starved skeleton like he was at 168. Tarver is looking to cash out & is getting a biog cheque for his troubles.

Even if one side of the bet comes up trumps do you seriously think that lightning will strike twice? Let alone twice in the same week?

You are a smart guy CEO. If you really have a hardon for this put your money on a Judah KO collect & invest 1/2 of what you win on Tarver winning by KO. you will get less sure but at least you will have hedged.
STEVENSKI
I should add that I think both bets are fantasy ones & no one with any punting acumen would go near them. The best bet is Tarver & even that is a shitty one. The oddsmakers setthe odds for a reason. It has been very few times I have seen them get it wrong. One was DLH vs Hopkins with Hopkins winning via stoppage & the other was a Wlad decision over Brewster in the rematch.

Sentimentality & a dislike of a fighter are no ways to place a bet. I asssume people bet to win & this is not what you would consider a winning bet in any way shape or form.

Not trying to be a prick or anything but this parley has sucker written all over it.
gravytrain
i don't think it's that bad, i don't consider $75 of that big of a risk when there's at least a chance of the fighters coming through. it's not like he's laying it down on Haye over Wlad and Ortiz over Mayweather.

personally i've a hard time going with Judah over Khan. the only way i can see him winning is if he catches Khan with a perfect shot and can finish him.
Romulus9
I think Judah is a better bet than Tarver is.

Judah looks to finally have his head on straight (even if it might have come a few years too late...), and Khan is overrated and vulnerable. I like Zab in a stoppage.

Tarver is over 40, over his best weight, coming off of a lackluster performance against a guy Chris Arreola hammered a few months later, and is fighting a guy in a big event on his home turf.... and Green happens to be pretty good, too. Tarver CAN win but I don't think it's likely enough to throw very much cash on it. Deck is stacked. That said, he could very well pull it off but he'll have to outbox Green convincingly to do so.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (gravytrain @ Jul 14 2011, 02:33 PM) *
i don't think it's that bad, i don't consider $75 of that big of a risk when there's at least a chance of the fighters coming through. it's not like he's laying it down on Haye over Wlad and Ortiz over Mayweather.

personally i've a hard time going with Judah over Khan. the only way i can see him winning is if he catches Khan with a perfect shot and can finish him.


Gravy it is not about the amount of money. I would be saying the same if it was $7.50 or $75,000.00. You should be getting 1000-1 at worst on your money for this bet.

Judah is a outside chance & it will be luck/fluke if he wins & the only way he can win is by KO as he sure is not gonna outbox Khan.

Tarver is a outsider as he has not looked good in some time, is fighting in a hostile country & facing a guy with as much power as anyone he has faced.

Combine the two & both upsets happening within a week of each other & it is just a bad bad bet inmy eyes.

I have some experience in these matters & I cannot see any way this is a good bet. A good bet would be if this was 1000-1 & even then it is pretty shitty odds to bet on a surefire loss.

Would I be surprised if one of the two actually won? Not really but both winning? Ain't gonna happen in this lifetime & if I am wrong I will be more than happy to admit so.
gravytrain
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 14 2011, 12:42 AM) *
Gravy it is not about the amount of money. I would be saying the same if it was $7.50 or $75,000.00. You should be getting 1000-1 at worst on your money for this bet.

Judah is a outside chance & it will be luck/fluke if he wins & the only way he can win is by KO as he sure is not gonna outbox Khan.

Tarver is a outsider as he has not looked good in some time, is fighting in a hostile country & facing a guy with as much power as anyone he has faced.

Combine the two & both upsets happening within a week of each other & it is just a bad bad bet inmy eyes.

I have some experience in these matters & I cannot see any way this is a good bet. A good bet would be if this was 1000-1 & even then it is pretty shitty odds.

Would I be surprised if one of the two actually won? Not really but both winning? Ain't gonna happen in this lifetime & if I am wrong I will be more than happy to admit so.


i agree with you for the most part. i'm definitely not taking these as a parlay. i just feel differently since i came up on the BHop vs Pascal I draw lol. there are times in boxing where you really don't know what will happen and going with your gut might just payoff. but with this one you need a gut the size of James Toney.

JONdaCON817
Any good online betting sites? I've only betted amongst friends. I wouldn't mind dropping $100 on Judah.

Maybe 50 on Judah by ko and bet another 50 on Khan by UD. *shrugs*
mgrover
i was checking ladbrokes for the ortiz mayweather fight and its 1/8 odds if mayweather wins? and 9/2 if ortiz wins. i might be wrong here but arent they expect mayweather to lose? am betting on him to win anyway nice easy money
The CEO
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 13 2011, 11:39 PM) *
Bluntly put one of the worst bets I have seen.

When has Judah ever performed in a way that make you think he will beat Khan? When has he ever lifted for a fight? The only truly big fight he won was against Spinks & he needed two goes to get that right. Judah is a loser & a proven one at that.

Tarver stands a chance against Green but I think Green will bash him like a runaway slave. Tarver has slowed considerably & Green for his faults looks very comfortable at cruiser & has plenty of sting in his shots. He is no 1/2 starved skeleton like he was at 168. Tarver is looking to cash out & is getting a biog cheque for his troubles.

Even if one side of the bet comes up trumps do you seriously think that lightning will strike twice? Let alone twice in the same week?

You are a smart guy CEO. If you really have a hardon for this put your money on a Judah KO collect & invest 1/2 of what you win on Tarver winning by KO. you will get less sure but at least you will have hedged.



QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 14 2011, 12:30 AM) *
I should add that I think both bets are fantasy ones & no one with any punting acumen would go near them. The best bet is Tarver & even that is a shitty one. The oddsmakers setthe odds for a reason. It has been very few times I have seen them get it wrong. One was DLH vs Hopkins with Hopkins winning via stoppage & the other was a Wlad decision over Brewster in the rematch.

Sentimentality & a dislike of a fighter are no ways to place a bet. I asssume people bet to win & this is not what you would consider a winning bet in any way shape or form.

Not trying to be a prick or anything but this parley has sucker written all over it.


Damn, STEVENS...why you gotta come down hard on me over an admitted GAMBLE?

It's not like I'm predicting them to win or calling it a LOCK like I did Ward (+320) over Kessler...I won $3200 that night....surely you remember THAT pick...lol


I rarely parlay fights because I know the odds....and when I do play 'em, I don't lay down much...came very close to hitting several grand off a nothing bet not too long ago...it was that Bantam Tourney night...4 fights, bet on all 4 underdogs...an SD and a Draw got me.....

This here is simply a matter of throwin' some extra dough on something that iMo has a decent shot of being a winner (FOR a parlay)...the $75 for $1000 was a reference point...$38 gets you $500 and so on and so forth...

It's not nearly as bad as you're makin' it out to be...


QUOTE (Romulus9 @ Jul 14 2011, 12:36 AM) *
I think Judah is a better bet than Tarver is.

Judah looks to finally have his head on straight (even if it might have come a few years too late...), and Khan is overrated and vulnerable. I like Zab in a stoppage.

Tarver is over 40, over his best weight, coming off of a lackluster performance against a guy Chris Arreola hammered a few months later, and is fighting a guy in a big event on his home turf.... and Green happens to be pretty good, too. Tarver CAN win but I don't think it's likely enough to throw very much cash on it. Deck is stacked. That said, he could very well pull it off but he'll have to outbox Green convincingly to do so.


You know I considered the bold, Rommy...but here's what I think...as far as bullshit going down, Australia isn't half as bad as Britain, Germany, or America...

Anyway...you're right though...we have to assume some kind of shit will probably be in play...


I think Tarver, at his best, should be good enough to beat Green fair and square...


QUOTE (JONdaCON817 @ Jul 14 2011, 01:30 AM) *
Any good online betting sites? I've only betted amongst friends. I wouldn't mind dropping $100 on Judah.

Maybe 50 on Judah by ko and bet another 50 on Khan by UD. *shrugs*


Sportsbook.com and Bodog.net are the only two I've ever used...I prefer Sportsbook.


QUOTE (mgrover @ Jul 14 2011, 09:32 PM) *
i was checking ladbrokes for the ortiz mayweather fight and its 1/8 odds if mayweather wins? and 9/2 if ortiz wins. i might be wrong here but arent they expect mayweather to lose? am betting on him to win anyway nice easy money


lol...nope...that means you gotta lay $800 on Mayweather to win $100...
Method
I gamble, and I wouldnt put more than $10-20 bucks on it. 10 you win 200. 20 you win 400. 75 you can basically kiss good bye. I dunno. Whats a Green/Kahn parlay pay?

Romulus9
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 15 2011, 02:00 PM) *
You know I considered the bold, Rommy...but here's what I think...as far as bullshit going down, Australia isn't half as bad as Britain, Germany, or America...

Anyway...you're right though...we have to assume some kind of shit will probably be in play...


I think Tarver, at his best, should be good enough to beat Green fair and square...



On the surface, no, Australia isn't nearly as bad as Britain, Germany, or America, but there really haven't been a huge number of big fights in recent years to really give an accurate sample. There are horrible hometown decisions everywhere. After watching my fighter get completely hosed in a four rounder last Saturday night, I can attest to that. Four fights, two terrible decisions. Career is off to an encouraging start.

If Tarver is at his best, he can and probably should beat Green. I just wonder how much is still there. Tarver has always taken a good shot, and his defense is underrated, so I'd be pretty surprised if he got stopped unless he just gets obliterated because he's shot. He also isn't a big one-punch KO artist (Jones KO aside) so I'd be equally shocked if he stopped Green. This is going to the cards, pending a TKO on a cut.
The CEO
QUOTE (Method @ Jul 15 2011, 05:07 PM) *
I gamble, and I wouldnt put more than $10-20 bucks on it. 10 you win 200. 20 you win 400. 75 you can basically kiss good bye. I dunno. Whats a Green/Kahn parlay pay?


That's a practical throw....probably the most appropriate bet for this parlay...I think I'm gonna put $40 on it...

$50 on Green/Khan gets you $30...which is not bad in itself.


QUOTE (Romulus9 @ Jul 15 2011, 05:19 PM) *
On the surface, no, Australia isn't nearly as bad as Britain, Germany, or America, but there really haven't been a huge number of big fights in recent years to really give an accurate sample. There are horrible hometown decisions everywhere. After watching my fighter get completely hosed in a four rounder last Saturday night, I can attest to that. Four fights, two terrible decisions. Career is off to an encouraging start.

If Tarver is at his best, he can and probably should beat Green. I just wonder how much is still there. Tarver has always taken a good shot, and his defense is underrated, so I'd be pretty surprised if he got stopped unless he just gets obliterated because he's shot. He also isn't a big one-punch KO artist (Jones KO aside) so I'd be equally shocked if he stopped Green. This is going to the cards, pending a TKO on a cut.


Man it sucks when you do your best and are convinced you won, only to get screwed by powers out of your control.....I know you'll keep his head up.

Tarver is having to boil down again too...it doesn't look very favorable....in fact, I think the odds for him and Judah should be switched...but yeah...if it's close, maybe Australia will want to maintain they have a Legend Killer...lol
Method
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 15 2011, 06:23 PM) *
That's a practical throw....probably the most appropriate bet for this parlay...I think I'm gonna put $40 on it...

$50 on Green/Khan gets you $30...which is not bad in itself.




Man it sucks when you do your best and are convinced you won, only to get screwed by powers out of your control.....I know you'll keep his head up.

Tarver is having to boil down again too...it doesn't look very favorable....in fact, I think the odds for him and Judah should be switched...but yeah...if it's close, maybe Australia will want to maintain they have a Legend Killer...lol

I might go yard on Kahn/Green.
The CEO
QUOTE (Method @ Jul 15 2011, 06:42 PM) *
I might go yard on Kahn/Green.


lol...I'm gonna lay George Brett Pine Tar wood on Ward over Froch....I need him to get near +200...
D-MARV
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 15 2011, 06:57 PM) *
lol...I'm gonna lay George Brett Pine Tar wood on Ward over Froch....I need him to get near +200...

Ward is the favorite in this one... Last I checked he was at -260
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 16 2011, 04:00 AM) *
Damn, STEVENS...why you gotta come down hard on me over an admitted GAMBLE?

It's not like I'm predicting them to win or calling it a LOCK like I did Ward (+320) over Kessler...I won $3200 that night....surely you remember THAT pick...lol


I rarely parlay fights because I know the odds....and when I do play 'em, I don't lay down much...came very close to hitting several grand off a nothing bet not too long ago...it was that Bantam Tourney night...4 fights, bet on all 4 underdogs...an SD and a Draw got me.....

This here is simply a matter of throwin' some extra dough on something that iMo has a decent shot of being a winner (FOR a parlay)...the $75 for $1000 was a reference point...$38 gets you $500 and so on and so forth...

It's not nearly as bad as you're makin' it out to be...



I know CEO. I was just saying you may as well wipe your arse with the money because a parlay on this is a bad idea. You may get one leg up but the other will fall. You know how it works mate.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 16 2011, 08:23 AM) *
$50 on Green/Khan gets you $30...which is not bad in itself.


That would be a far more prudent parlay in my eyes at least.
Romulus9
I'd feel pretty confident laying $50 on a Green/Judah parlay.
The CEO
QUOTE (D-MARV @ Jul 15 2011, 07:09 PM) *
Ward is the favorite in this one... Last I checked he was at -260


Yeah...I was used to typing +s...lol...but between me and you and everyone else, I'm seeing Ward by late TKO as well...

THOSE odds will be EXTRA juicy...


QUOTE (Romulus9 @ Jul 15 2011, 09:55 PM) *
I'd feel pretty confident laying $50 on a Green/Judah parlay.


$50 on that gets you $230...pretty nice.
JLUVBABY
THIS IS TO THE MODS!!!... lol.. we need a private forum where we can talk boxing odds and post some legit sites that actually pay the winnings and what has to be done to deposit money etc... that would be cool...
The CEO
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Jul 18 2011, 01:12 PM) *
THIS IS TO THE MODS!!!... lol.. we need a private forum where we can talk boxing odds and post some legit sites that actually pay the winnings and what has to be done to deposit money etc... that would be cool...


You mean like the Team FightHype section we used to have but didn't use?...lol...that would be a Hype call...
Method
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Jul 18 2011, 01:12 PM) *
THIS IS TO THE MODS!!!... lol.. we need a private forum where we can talk boxing odds and post some legit sites that actually pay the winnings and what has to be done to deposit money etc... that would be cool...

Covers.com, bro.
caneman
QUOTE (Method @ Jul 18 2011, 12:42 PM) *
Covers.com, bro.


Speaking of MODS, why ain't you one anymore Method?
Method
QUOTE (caneman @ Jul 18 2011, 03:04 PM) *
Speaking of MODS, why ain't you one anymore Method?

Ask Jack bro. I hadn't noticed.
gravytrain
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 18 2011, 01:40 PM) *
You mean like the Team FightHype section we used to have but didn't use?...lol...that would be a Hype call...


have you pulled any money out of your sportsbook account? i'm using Bodog right now but have been wanting to switch since last time i got money out it took about a month longer than expected. is it about the same with them?
Method
QUOTE (gravytrain @ Jul 18 2011, 03:25 PM) *
have you pulled any money out of your sportsbook account? i'm using Bodog right now but have been wanting to switch since last time i got money out it took about a month longer than expected. is it about the same with them?

I pulled $6k out of sportsbook.com. Being that it was after the Super Bowl, and the site was flooded with requests, it took about 3 weeks to hit my account on an electronic transfer. That said, the site told me it would take ~ 6 weeks, so it hit 3 weeks early. For my brother as well.

Any other time of year, it will hit in 3 biz days max.

No idea on bodog.
Method
QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 18 2011, 06:22 PM) *
Haha, I noticed that a while ago. Bloody Jack1000, maybe there was a malfunction with his wiring or something.

Could be. Or it could be a problem with the database. Who knows.
gravytrain
QUOTE (Method @ Jul 18 2011, 03:34 PM) *
I pulled $6k out of sportsbook.com. Being that it was after the Super Bowl, and the site was flooded with requests, it took about 3 weeks to hit my account on an electronic transfer. That said, the site told me it would take ~ 6 weeks, so it hit 3 weeks early. For my brother as well.

Any other time of year, it will hit in 3 biz days max.

No idea on bodog.


thanks, Method. i just wanted to check first before i committed to it. it might just be bad luck but Bodog took awhile for me.
JLUVBABY
QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 18 2011, 12:40 PM) *
You mean like the Team FightHype section we used to have but didn't use?...lol...that would be a Hype call...

lol... yeah basically... certain things need to be kept under wraps... i know online betting in the u.s is illegal "from what ive heard"... id like to get some small action for fun... but would like to know who im dealing with is legit and it would be nice to discuss some of the bets interested in making before making if nuthin more than to get fellow fans inputs... that aside i got champions ceo.. you want somemore shallacking?.. lol...
JLUVBABY
QUOTE (Method @ Jul 18 2011, 12:42 PM) *
Covers.com, bro.


imma check them out..
gravytrain
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Jul 18 2011, 10:49 PM) *
lol... yeah basically... certain things need to be kept under wraps... i know online betting in the u.s is illegal "from what ive heard"... id like to get some small action for fun... but would like to know who im dealing with is legit and it would be nice to discuss some of the bets interested in making before making if nuthin more than to get fellow fans inputs... that aside i got champions ceo.. you want somemore shallacking?.. lol...


bodog has been alright but they're slipping on sending me my money.

it's pretty fun, J. i watch boxing a lot anyway so instead of just picking winners you can actually make some money off of it. it makes you really pay attention to fighters too because it's no fun losing money lol.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Method @ Jul 18 2011, 07:54 PM) *
Could be. Or it could be a problem with the database. Who knows.


At least you able to make one important ammendment to 'douchebag' laugh.gif
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