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Allmenjoi8
Now that the Khan and Zab "fight" is over the next big fight of course is May and Ortiz. Floyd stated that he wanted to stay active after the Ortiz fight so what options does he have? The next four people I would love to see him fight is as follows: 1. Pacaquio (just to kill the hype) 2. Ward 3. Khan (I hate British accents I love Brits but ah their accents) 4. Mike Jones/ Saul Alveraz. There is no way he is fighting Sergio M. He is too big and Sergio would have to kill himself to make a compromised weight. WHo are your four?
jvo1800
no order

1) Pac
2) Kahn
3) Bradley
4) Pac(rematch)
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Jul 25 2011, 12:15 AM) *
Now that the Khan and Zab "fight" is over the next big fight of course is May and Ortiz. Floyd stated that he wanted to stay active after the Ortiz fight so what options does he have? The next four people I would love to see him fight is as follows: 1. Pacaquio (just to kill the hype) 2. Ward 3. Khan (I hate British accents I love Brits but ah their accents) 4. Mike Jones/ Saul Alveraz. There is no way he is fighting Sergio M. He is too big and Sergio would have to kill himself to make a compromised weight. WHo are your four?


I am confused. Sergio is too big for Mayweather and yet the Super middleweight Ward is not?

I just want to see Pac and Floyd fight after they should win their next fights. Period. One step at a time. This is boxing, anything can happen.
Pago
Of course the fight with Manny then winner of Bradley -Jones or khan - another bout @47 with brook - then alvarez or chavez and martinez @54 to retire
ViperSniper
Does boxing still need Mayweather?

Pac
Khan
Bradley
Jones
Martinez
Cotto
Alvarez
Dzinziruk
Angulo

Here's more than four fights he could take if he wants to stay busy like he claims, which would also be a start to the nonsense we have gotten from Floyd's big mouth & career at Welterweight.

Mayweather needs boxing!!
BoxingWizard23
1. Pacman(just so Floyd can embarrass Freddie Roach again and to get rid of the pactard nation)

2. Sergio Martinez (just to shut up the boxing world on floyd not fighting a dangerous and legit opponent again)

3. The Terrorist

4.The Ghost
BoxingWizard23
QUOTE (ViperSniper @ Jul 25 2011, 01:10 AM) *
Does boxing still need Mayweather?

Pac
Khan
Bradley
Jones
Martinez
Cotto
Alvarez
Dzinziruk
Angulo

Here's more than four fights he could take if he wants to stay busy like he claims, which would also be a start to the nonsense we have gotten from Floyd's big mouth & career at Welterweight.

Mayweather needs boxing!!

If he beats and fights all those people you are one of the people i'm sure would still say he ducks fighters and isn't one of the best. Your one of the many that will never be satisfied with Mayweather until he loses. It's sad this man will never get the credit he deserves till the next generation comes in like most boxers do.
Snoop
QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 25 2011, 05:52 AM) *
I am confused. Sergio is too big for Mayweather and yet the Super middleweight Ward is not?

Exactly what I was thinking.
ViperSniper
QUOTE (BoxingWizard23 @ Jul 25 2011, 05:23 AM) *
If he beats and fights all those people you are one of the people i'm sure would still say he ducks fighters and isn't one of the best. Your one of the many that will never be satisfied with Mayweather until he loses. It's sad this man will never get the credit he deserves till the next generation comes in like most boxers do.


Mayweather has gone years being guilty of ducking the best available fighters out there..the past can't be changed! What credit do you what fans to give him? For being skilled? Cool. Lets hope the next generation don't degrade themselves along with the sport that made them!

From this point on, if it's not a fight with Pacquaio, it's not really good enough!
Snoop
QUOTE (ViperSniper @ Jul 25 2011, 06:10 AM) *
Does boxing still need Mayweather?

Pac
Khan
Bradley
Jones
Martinez
Cotto
Alvarez
Dzinziruk
Angulo

Here's more than four fights he could take if he wants to stay busy like he claims, which would also be a start to the nonsense we have gotten from Floyd's big mouth & career at Welterweight.

Mayweather needs boxing!!

Unfortunately, boxing is half show, half athletic competition. I can't really think of another fighter that can bring as much drama as the Mayweathers. They definitely provide for some entertainment value.
Fitz
QUOTE (BoxingWizard23 @ Jul 25 2011, 03:23 PM) *
If he beats and fights all those people you are one of the people i'm sure would still say he ducks fighters and isn't one of the best. Your one of the many that will never be satisfied with Mayweather until he loses. It's sad this man will never get the credit he deserves till the next generation comes in like most boxers do.


IF, IF, IF, IF.

He sure isn't proving a point by not fighting them now, is he?
ViperSniper
QUOTE (Snoop @ Jul 25 2011, 06:47 AM) *
Unfortunately, boxing is half show, half athletic competition. I can't really think of another fighter that can bring as much drama as the Mayweathers. They definitely provide for some entertainment value.


That all seems to only conveniently apply to Mayweather, which in fact seems to be more 3rd show and quarter competition for him. What drama are we talking about?

What good is all this 'drama' and 'entertainment value' you speak of when it's not inside the ring? Maybe the Mayweathers are more cut out for 'Reality TV'??
mexi-cutioner
In order:

1) Khan-May 2012
2) Pacquiao-November 2012
3) Pacquiao rematch-Spring 2013
4) Martinez fall 2013
Alvarez-2013-2014***

And if he can win all those fights he would probably go down as one of the top 10 Greatest P4P in the sport IMO
Snoop
QUOTE (ViperSniper @ Jul 25 2011, 08:01 AM) *
That all seems to only conveniently apply to Mayweather, which in fact seems to be more 3rd show and quarter competition for him. What drama are we talking about?

What good is all this 'drama' and 'entertainment value' you speak of when it's not inside the ring? Maybe the Mayweathers are more cut out for 'Reality TV'??

That's my point. No other fighter is as controversial as Mayweather and whether we like it or not, it sells tickets. How fast did the Ortiz fight sell out? From what I heard, people were PISSED because they woke up early in the AM to purchase tickets that were sold out in like 2 mins.

The drama I'm talking about is the fight buildup, the controversial "he said this, he did that" gossip bullshit that makes people invested because as a society, we love getting into other people's business. I mean for all intents and purposes, I think the "drama" and "entertainment value" is what sometimes keeps us from seeing the good matchups, but at the same time, it also makes us excited for something. How hyped were we for the Haye/Klit snoozefest? At the very least, it's what bamboozles viewers into buying the next PPV again and again and again.

For guys like us, we appreciate the contest in the ring. For the general public, who, as much as I hate to say it, keeps the sport of boxing alive, they pay to watch the fight because it's the "next big event". Half the people watching these megafights don't even know who these guys are, just what shit they talked/did leading up the fight.
BoxingWizard23
QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 25 2011, 02:50 AM) *
IF, IF, IF, IF.

He sure isn't proving a point by not fighting them now, is he?

How can he fight them now if he's getting ready to fight Ortiz? A younger, hungry,legit champion who always comes to fight and has answered to his questionable heart like a true champion should. Yet like I said people like you will never be satisfied till he loses.
Snoop
QUOTE (BoxingWizard23 @ Jul 25 2011, 08:40 AM) *
How can he fight them now if he's getting ready to fight Ortiz? A younger, hungry,legit champion who always comes to fight and has answered to his questionable heart like a true champion should. Yet like I said people like you will never be satisfied till he loses.

Mayweather's making a statement by choosing Ortiz as a comeback fight. How he acts afterward remains to be seen. Arguing based on what he's going to do is just setting yourself up for potential failure.
mexi-cutioner
QUOTE (Snoop @ Jul 25 2011, 12:53 AM) *
Mayweather's making a statement by choosing Ortiz as a comeback fight. [b]How he acts afterward remains to be seen. Arguing based on what he's going to do is just setting yourself up for potential failure.[/b]

LOL SAYS THE GUY WHO ARGUED THAT PACQUIAO IS GOING TO BECOME A POLITICAL PUPPET
Snoop
QUOTE (mexi-cutioner @ Jul 25 2011, 08:56 AM) *
LOL SAYS THE GUY WHO ARGUED THAT PACQUIAO IS GOING TO BECOME A POLITICAL PUPPET

Well, I said "potential" and yeah, if Pacquiao doesn't become a political puppet, I would be wrong. Dumbass.

Oh wait, but all politicians are political puppets, so it's a guarantee!

laugh.gif

And btw, keep the discussions relevant to the threads sparky. I know I got you all emotionally flustered, but please, control yourself.
mexi-cutioner
^^ People I urge you not to argue with the china man above. He's not capable to putting together an argument without contradicting himself in the process. And if he disagrees He also fails to see anyone's point of view other than his own.
riddick
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Jul 25 2011, 12:15 AM) *
2. Ward

LOL
I want see Floyd with Pac, Martinez, Khan.

STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Snoop @ Jul 25 2011, 04:47 PM) *
Unfortunately, boxing is half show, half athletic competition. I can't really think of another fighter that can bring as much drama as the Mayweathers. They definitely provide for some entertainment value.


No it is pure athletic competition. Showboating & pizzaz don't win world titles ability & skill does.

Fuck the Mayweathers the whole clan make me wanna retch.
Snoop
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 25 2011, 10:08 AM) *
No it is pure athletic competition. Showboating & pizzaz don't win world titles ability & skill does.

For fans like us, absolutely. But they gotta please the masses too, the ones with the pocketbooks.

And hey, we like drama as much as the next guy. You can't tell me the "Face-off" promos on HBO didn't make Haye/Klit seem more interesting, at least before the fight actually happened.

laugh.gif

We just watch it for the competition first, drama second. The general public is usually puts it in the opposite order.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Snoop @ Jul 25 2011, 05:38 PM) *
That's my point. No other fighter is as controversial as Mayweather and whether we like it or not, it sells tickets. How fast did the Ortiz fight sell out? From what I heard, people were PISSED because they woke up early in the AM to purchase tickets that were sold out in like 2 mins.


Because he fights in a 16,000 seat bingo hall. How about he tries Sam Boyd Stadium since the cunt won't leave Nevada. That has a reasonable capacity of some 37,000.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (Snoop @ Jul 25 2011, 07:13 PM) *
For fans like us, absolutely. But they gotta please the masses too, the ones with the pocketbooks.

And hey, we like drama as much as the next guy. You can't tell me the "Face-off" promos on HBO didn't make Haye/Klit seem more interesting, at least before the fight actually happened.

laugh.gif

We just watch it for the competition first, drama second. The general public is usually puts it in the opposite order.


I did not waste my time with it. Nor do I with crap like 24/7 which is exactly what it is crap. I watch boxing to watch boxers box not slap bundles of 100's against their hand or cry about their dog being eaten.

24/7 does 3/5 of fuck all for me. Maybe I am strange but I pay to see fighters fight not fuck around.

ViperSniper
QUOTE (Snoop @ Jul 25 2011, 07:38 AM) *
That's my point. No other fighter is as controversial as Mayweather and whether we like it or not, it sells tickets. How fast did the Ortiz fight sell out? From what I heard, people were PISSED because they woke up early in the AM to purchase tickets that were sold out in like 2 mins.

The drama I'm talking about is the fight buildup, the controversial "he said this, he did that" gossip bullshit that makes people invested because as a society, we love getting into other people's business. I mean for all intents and purposes, I think the "drama" and "entertainment value" is what sometimes keeps us from seeing the good matchups, but at the same time, it also makes us excited for something. How hyped were we for the Haye/Klit snoozefest? At the very least, it's what bamboozles viewers into buying the next PPV again and again and again.

For guys like us, we appreciate the contest in the ring. For the general public, who, as much as I hate to say it, keeps the sport of boxing alive, they pay to watch the fight because it's the "next big event". Half the people watching these megafights don't even know who these guys are, just what shit they talked/did leading up the fight.



'Controversy' may help sell tickets, it is by no means something that is needed. As for people being pissed because people were up early in the morning for tickets to be sold out in a short amount of time? That is something that can apply to any paid event, weather it be a another boxers fight, sporting event or concert. Of course they were going to be pissed if they missed out on the fight and lined up for nothing. Hell, I'm sure Floyd himself would be hella pissed if he missed out on tickets to see Lady Gaga laugh.gif


In regards to the 'drama' you speak of that Mayweather apparently brings has yet to be seen against Ortiz which his fanboys have already complained about. The only 'drama' Floyd has displayed in recent years is in the courtrooms for beating woman, poking people in the face and accusing people of cheating out of intimidation! They hardly seem like things they well put focus on in his next 24/7 episodes for "entertainment value".

If there is good match-up fans will tune it, weather there is "drama" and "entertainment value" is attached to the fight or not. I think many people were hyped for Klitschko-Haye for a couple of reasons which, yes had to do with the on again, off again hype. But mainly people were hyped about this fight because it was a legitimate fight at Heavyweight in a Unification bout and I think people were genuinely curious to see the outcome, not because one was going to court or the other claiming he was greater than Ali.

I think boxing fans are aware that not all fights are going to be exciting or live up to the hype, but as long as their are legit or the best fights being made out there, fans will always tune in. Just look at Bradley-Alexander and Klitschko-Haye this year already! May have not been the most exciting fights, but they were one of the most important & biggest fights this year so far.

There is nothing wrong with a bit of controversy as it definitely sells, I see where your getting at and agree with most of it. I guess for me I don't care for all the "drama" & "entertainment value" Mayweather brings outside the ring if he can't even get the athletic competition part right! I rather get "drama & entertainment value" elsewhere.
streetlion1
Next 4 Mayweather opponents I'd like to see:

Cotto

Pacquiao

Con Khan

Bradley

In that order!
JLUVBABY
QUOTE (ViperSniper @ Jul 25 2011, 01:46 AM) *
From this point on, if it's not a fight with Pacquaio, it's not really good enough!


i agree but in all fairness same should be said for pac as well...
ViperSniper
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Jul 25 2011, 12:49 PM) *
i agree but in all fairness same should be said for pac as well...


Agree. Same goes for Pac as well!! Anything from this point on that does not involve both them inside the ring is pretty damn weak!

I'm just sick of hearing excuses from both them and their fans!!
Cshel86
It doesn't matter who this guy's next opponents are, the point is, people will still tune in no matter what...even the ones who hate his guts. Im sure he fights in a 16,00 seat casino to sell out tickets fast, because the real money is on the west coast (California, Vegas) along with celebrities who live there and pay $3k-$10k and up for seats. When those 16,000 sell out, guess what happens...oh wait, I know this one...people that want to see the fight that bad will click the buy button on the remote, and WALA!!! There goes the PPV numbers.

Floyd vs Ortiz rematch (which is possible since anything can happen in boxing) = a lot of drama and BIG MONEY (if Ortiz shocks the world in the 1st fight)

Floyd vs Pac (with a possible rematch or a trilogy) = BIG MONEY

Floyd vs Khan (as much as I still cant get into Khan) = BIG MONEY (due to the UK fanbase)

Floyd vs Bradley = waste of time, no money, who cares about Bradley anyway

Floyd vs Mike Jones = Seriously?! No money involved

Floyd vs the winner of Bradley vs Jones = are we still kidding here?!

Floyd vs Ward = not chance, he's too big for Floyd. The only way this will happen is when Floyd is truly at the end of his career and he can no longer make 147, and looks somewhat decent at 154, and he's lost a couple of fights, all to get talked into fighting at middleweight (this must happen in one breath).

Floyd vs Martinez = hate to say it, but its gonna be the same deal as the Ward fight.

Some of these guys will probably have to beat the hell outta each other before a fight with Floyd can even happen. Some of these guys are crying and yelling Floyd and Manny's name for a fight, but they have done little to nothing to earn it. These guys talk up big fights amongst their divisions and end up laying an egg when it's all said and done.

Khan vs Maidana (he had much heart in calling out Maidana, but he almost dropped the ball in the 10th round)

Bradley vs Alexander (a hyped up game-blower...bad venue, and the fight ended badly)

Bradley vs everybody (always a fail...I have yet to see this dude put on a good show)

Khan vs Judah (Khan did what he had to do, and Judah layed an egg as usual on the big stage as usual...game-blower no2.gif) People will only remember this fight because of how Zab 'Super Pooper' Judah quit like a biotch.
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 24 2011, 11:52 PM) *
I am confused. Sergio is too big for Mayweather and yet the Super middleweight Ward is not?

I just want to see Pac and Floyd fight after they should win their next fights. Period. One step at a time. This is boxing, anything can happen.


I think Ward will be a better match up than Sergio. Yes Ward in another weight class but I like that fight better than I do Sergio.
caneman
Just wondering FMJ fans; one, why is DLH not too big @ 154 but Maravilla is? Maravilla would drop down in a heartbeat! Plus to y'all he is God so it should be an easy nights work!!! lol Second if FMJ is this huge draw, why does it matter who he fights? pfffft, funny shit!

I think for the most part, FMJ and Pacman will both get shit on unless they fight each other personally, I mean they both have some decent fights they could fight but it still won't be enough for many! With that said:

Pacman times 2

Lara @ 154

Maravilla @ 154

Canelo @ 154
Cshel86
QUOTE (caneman @ Jul 25 2011, 09:36 AM) *
Just wondering FMJ fans; one, why is DLH not too big @ 154 but Maravilla is? Maravilla would drop down in a heartbeat! Plus to y'all he is God so it should be an easy nights work!!! lol Second if FMJ is this huge draw, why does it matter who he fights? pfffft, funny shit!

I think for the most part, FMJ and Pacman will both get shit on unless they fight each other personally, I mean they both have some decent fights they could fight but it still won't be enough for many! With that said:

Pacman times 2

Lara @ 154

Maravilla @ 154

Canelo @ 154

As we all know, Floyd may have signed to fight Oscar at 154lbs, but he (Floyd) never made the weight. Oscar isn't as nearly as athletic and busy as Sergio is, so the risk of the De La Hoya fight wasn't as big. The Martinez fight will take a while because I'm sure that Mayweather will have to fight at 154 a few times before trying a fight with Martinez at 160. Personally, I wouldn't want Sergio to kill himself to make 154 just for the sake of the fight. I would want both fighters to fight at comfortable weight, so there wont be any excuses in the end. Floyd is a big draw, but Im sure he would want to fight another fighter who is a big draw to make the purse for the fight go up. Of course he's going to get the bigger split, but I think all fighters want to make more than they did in their previous bouts.

caneman
QUOTE (cshel86 @ Jul 25 2011, 08:50 AM) *
As we all know, Floyd may have signed to fight Oscar at 154lbs, but he (Floyd) never made the weight. Oscar isn't as nearly as athletic and busy as Sergio is, so the risk of the De La Hoya fight wasn't as big. The Martinez fight will take a while because I'm sure that Mayweather will have to fight at 154 a few times before trying a fight with Martinez at 160. Personally, I wouldn't want Sergio to kill himself to make 154 just for the sake of the fight. I would want both fighters to fight at comfortable weight, so there wont be any excuses in the end. Floyd is a big draw, but Im sure he would want to fight another fighter who is a big draw to make the purse for the fight go up. Of course he's going to get the bigger split, but I think all fighters want to make more than they did in their previous bouts.



My bad I thought TOP NOTCH PRIZE FIGHTERS TOOK RISK TO BE THE BEST! STUPID ME!
Cshel86
QUOTE (caneman @ Jul 25 2011, 10:08 AM) *
My bad I thought TOP NOTCH PRIZE FIGHTERS TOOK RISK TO BE THE BEST! STUPID ME!

Oh you're not that stupid, and Mayweather isn't either...so we're even. Little risk, big reward...or a decent risk, big reward. That's how top notch prizefighers do nowadays!
Eighty88Eight
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Jul 25 2011, 09:18 AM) *
I think Ward will be a better match up than Sergio. Yes Ward in another weight class but I like that fight better than I do Sergio.


you're the Super Twitweight champion of the world

Mayweather needs to fight Pac if he gets passed Ortiz, then we'll see. Khan would be a tough, tough fight for Mr. Moola. Pac needs to start taking tests and stop making friends with top fighters around his weightclass. God forbid Pac fights Mike Jones or Bradley next. Two stupid fights. Should be fighting Khan instead.
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Jul 25 2011, 09:31 AM) *
you're the Super Twitweight champion of the world


Its my opinion, no need for the name calling. I do not get why people jump down another person's throat for stating their opinion. I know that Ward and Sergio are in different weight class, I would rather see him fight Ward. Nazis on this board.
Eighty88Eight
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Jul 25 2011, 10:35 AM) *
Its my opinion, no need for the name calling. I do not get why people jump down another person's throat for stating their opinion. I know that Ward and Sergio are in different weight class, I would rather see him fight Ward. Nazis on this board.


cmon, i didnt call you a racial epithet, it was a harmless tweak. relax. wait... you'd rather see martinez fight ward or mayweather fight ward? perhaps im the twitweight champion.
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Jul 25 2011, 10:30 AM) *
cmon, i didnt call you a racial epithet, it was a harmless tweak. relax. wait... you'd rather see martinez fight ward or mayweather fight ward? perhaps im the twitweight champion.


How could you call me a racial epithet and you have no idea what "race" I am. By the way scientifically speaking there is no such thing as race, its a generic term. Anyway I would like to see either Sergio and Ward fight or Ward and May fight. I just do not see Sergio and May being exciting. Maybe its just me. I am not overly sensitive either I just get tired when people have an opinion everyone jumps down their throat. Some opinions make no sense at times but I just do not understand the name calling. This is not congress we can debate or disagree without name calling is all.
Eighty88Eight
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Jul 25 2011, 11:49 AM) *
How could you call me a racial epithet and you have no idea what "race" I am. By the way scientifically speaking there is no such thing as race, its a generic term. Anyway I would like to see either Sergio and Ward fight or Ward and May fight. I just do not see Sergio and May being exciting. Maybe its just me. I am not overly sensitive either I just get tired when people have an opinion everyone jumps down their throat. Some opinions make no sense at times but I just do not understand the name calling. This is not congress we can debate or disagree without name calling is all.


Oh ok, you ARE the Twitweight champion. you reacted as if i called you by some racist term, is what im saying. interestingly enough, Twitweight champion is a contentious phrase, but calling folks nazi's is perfectly casual.... You're the UNDISPUTED twitweight champion, motherfucker. fuck.gif

hey, thats cute, they got a little Mayweather-Pacquiao Official Announcement face: yahoo.gif
Eighty88Eight
QUOTE (caneman @ Jul 25 2011, 10:08 AM) *
My bad I thought TOP NOTCH PRIZE FIGHTERS TOOK RISK TO BE THE BEST! STUPID ME!


that vida guerra picture is so fucking distracting. you should take that shit down, i can't be getting boners at work, man.
True-Boxing-Fan
Mayweathers next 4 opponents will be Ortiz, the courts, the courts and bankruptcy, lol. There is NO WAY he is fights 4 more times. And there is absolutely no way he would fight Martinez and to even mention Ward as an opponant is just plain silly and delusional. Even In a dream world Floyd wouldnt fight those guys and i would finally give him crazy props if he did (as would the boxing world) but in reality Floyd does not have the manhood(balls) to fight them. Floyd is not fighting 4 mores fights to be real, so naming opponents is just silly.
Eighty88Eight
QUOTE (True-Boxing-Fan @ Jul 25 2011, 01:10 PM) *
Mayweathers next 4 opponents will be Ortiz, the courts, the courts and bankruptcy, lol. There is NO WAY he is fights 4 more times. And there is absolutely no way he would fight Martinez and to even mention Ward as an opponant is just plain silly and delusional. Even In a dream world Floyd wouldnt fight those guys and i would finally give him crazy props if he did (as would the boxing world) but in reality Floyd does not have the manhood(balls) to fight them. Floyd is not fighting 4 mores fights to be real, so naming opponents is just silly.


why criticism for not fighting middleweights? pac and mayweather have essentially come up in weight the same way (starting at 106 at age 16), so why is it any more feasible for mayweather to fight natural middleweights and super middleweights than it is for pacquiao? you dont need balls as an average welterweight to fight middleweights or supermiddleweights, you need an absence of mind.

and why can't mayweather fight 4 more times? the case from his ex is (not coincidentally) quite quiet. if there was anything to divulge, the media would be reporting the shit out of it already. poking security guards and accusing folks of steroids isn't going to ruin a millionaires life. Mayweather is going to fight as many times as he wishes. if that means 2 more times, 1 more time, or 7 more times, he'll do it. im not sure Mayweather is gonna go unbeaten for very long... and if he loses, will he still wish to fight? he does seem to be mentally preparing himself for losing what with all his talk about "taking a loss" lately.
True-Boxing-Fan
QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Jul 25 2011, 10:25 AM) *
why criticism for not fighting middleweights? pac and mayweather have essentially come up in weight the same way (starting at 106 at age 16), so why is it any more feasible for mayweather to fight natural middleweights and super middleweights than it is for pacquiao? you dont need balls as an average welterweight to fight middleweights or supermiddleweights, you need an absence of mind.

I said mayweather does not have the manhood or balls to fight Martinez and its delusional to even mention Ward as an opponant. Since he's been at welterweight what makes you think he would fight a middleweight or super middleweight. So to think he would fight those guys is plain delusional. If he did fight those guys he would get major props from EVERYONE since it's those kinds of challenges everyone has been wanting.

Also what makes you think he will fight 4 more times. When he took 18 months off and came back to fight a lightweigt Marquez he was talkin the same thing he is now, how he misses the sport and plans on doing big things. But then he goes on another hiatus soon there after. So again for me it hard to think he will fight 4 more times. I would love it if be did, especially for the toughest challenges but with Mayweathers history its hard to believe.
caneman
QUOTE (True-Boxing-Fan @ Jul 25 2011, 12:51 PM) *
I said mayweather does not have the manhood or balls to fight Martinez and its delusional to even mention Ward as an opponant. Since he's been at welterweight what makes you think he would fight a middleweight or super middleweight. So to think he would fight those guys is plain delusional. If he did fight those guys he would get major props from EVERYONE since it's those kinds of challenges everyone has been wanting.

Also what makes you think he will fight 4 more times. When he took 18 months off and came back to fight a lightweigt Marquez he was talkin the same thing he is now, how he misses the sport and plans on doing big things. But then he goes on another hiatus soon there after. So again for me it hard to think he will fight 4 more times. I would love it if be did, especially for the toughest challenges but with Mayweathers history its hard to believe.


This could be dead on, I would think the plan for Floyd is fight Pacman and then hear how he did all he can in boxing again and retire!
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Jul 25 2011, 11:37 AM) *
Oh ok, you ARE the Twitweight champion. you reacted as if i called you by some racist term, is what im saying. interestingly enough, Twitweight champion is a contentious phrase, but calling folks nazi's is perfectly casual.... You're the UNDISPUTED twitweight champion, motherfucker. fuck.gif

hey, thats cute, they got a little Mayweather-Pacquiao Official Announcement face: yahoo.gif


Its people like you that give people like me something to be grateful for. Stay classy
sduck
At the Press Conference he promised about 10 more fights. I don't believe that. Mayweather has the habit of taking a big payday and clinging to life after boxing. Not like there's anything wrong with that, but that doesn't touch up on your legacy. He obviously does care about his legacy or he wouldn't do it for the "fans".

I think his next opponents should be (In Order) Pacquiao, Khan, Alvarez, Martinez. Fighting Cotto now would just be considered "Leftovers" unless he heavily redeems himself from Margarito and on. Bradley needs to fight more people like KHAN. I also doubt he'd be giving anyone a rematch, unless it was very controversial like with Castillo.
JLUVBABY
QUOTE (caneman @ Jul 25 2011, 08:36 AM) *
Just wondering FMJ fans; one, why is DLH not too big @ 154 but Maravilla is? Maravilla would drop down in a heartbeat! Plus to y'all he is God so it should be an easy nights work!!! lol Second if FMJ is this huge draw, why does it matter who he fights? pfffft, funny shit!


i dont think everyone believes sergio is too big for floyd.. just my opinion but sergio is less dangerous a fight for floyd at 154 then oscar was at the time mayweather fought him.... two different styles... oscar was a buzz saw all fight long with mayweather... sergio would have a lot of issues with floyd from skill level to speed to a lot of things.. only advantages sergio really has is physical strength and punching power in my opinion and it takes more than that to beat floyd less you can score a clean k.o which i wont say isnt possible... but sergio is not to big for floyd. least i dont feel he is and honestly i think depending on what floyds actual time table is before he calls it a day that is a fight he'd take... just my opinion...
True-Boxing-Fan
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Jul 25 2011, 11:50 AM) *
i dont think everyone believes sergio is too big for floyd.. just my opinion but sergio is less dangerous a fight for floyd at 154 then oscar was at the time mayweather fought him.... two different styles... oscar was a buzz saw all fight long with mayweather... sergio would have a lot of issues with floyd from skill level to speed to a lot of things.. only advantages sergio really has is physical strength and punching power in my opinion and it takes more than that to beat floyd less you can score a clean k.o which i wont say isnt possible... but sergio is not to big for floyd. least i dont feel he is and honestly i think depending on what floyds actual time table is before he calls it a day that is a fight he'd take... just my opinion...

In a way I agree. But when mayweather fought Oscar, Oscar was far from being the fighter he was in his prime. IMO at 154 Sergio has more power, strength and speed than Oscar did at 154 when he fought mayweather.
caneman
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Jul 25 2011, 01:50 PM) *
i dont think everyone believes sergio is too big for floyd.. just my opinion but sergio is less dangerous a fight for floyd at 154 then oscar was at the time mayweather fought him.... two different styles... oscar was a buzz saw all fight long with mayweather... sergio would have a lot of issues with floyd from skill level to speed to a lot of things.. only advantages sergio really has is physical strength and punching power in my opinion and it takes more than that to beat floyd less you can score a clean k.o which i wont say isnt possible... but sergio is not to big for floyd. least i dont feel he is and honestly i think depending on what floyds actual time table is before he calls it a day that is a fight he'd take... just my opinion...



I guess everyone has their opinion but in mine, Maravilla is a much faster, more powerful and tougher fighter!
JLUVBABY
@ cane and true... my thing is, and just my opinion.... if the version of oscar that floyd fought and sergio fought today.. who would i favor?.... i'd favor oscar.. reason being and i saw it in the dznerik or how ever the hell you spell his name (lol) fight... at or near his best oscar knew how to change his game plan to suite who ever he was fighting... sergio can be controlled with the right game plan and at certain stages dznerik was having succes with his jab against sergio... with that said i think it has been somewhat forgotten just how tough oscar was and oscar wasnt the hardest puncher at 154 but he did pack enough heat to make people respect his gangsta at 154... and he fought the most legit middleweight to grace the division since hagler in hopkins and even kept it fairly close for a minute and had minor success in that fight as well... sergio is very far from being an unbeatable fighter.. just my opinion... not with that said... for what mayweather brings to the table as far as ring generalship, defense, speed, adaptability in the ring and just all round ring generalship floyds dumps all over sergio.... just my opinion but sergio would be the fighter fighting the uphill battle in that one...

NOW WITH THAT SAID... i would be crazy to set here and say sergio cant win the fight but he'd have to fight the kind of disiplined fight that going in he knows he's gonna have to find floyd before he can hit him... he wouldnt win a boxing match.... he'd have to land something even if it didnt knock floyd out it would have to hurt him and get his attention to the point that floyd shells up the rest of the fight and not want to take chances on feeling that type of punch again (ala camacho when he fought rosario which i dont see happening, mosleys punches showed floyd will bite down and fight back if hurt or stunned...) and here is something else to think about... how does sergio react once he finally finds success but floyd has cracked his style code and adjusts on the fly to what he is doing as floyd does in every fight that starts out looking like it will be competitive?... can sergio adjust and adapt in the same manner? i'm not sure he can... i dont say that to take away from martinez but the skill level between the two is night and day...
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