QUOTE (BoxingWizard23 @ Jul 28 2011, 03:00 PM)
Oscar showed that the closes way to beat Floyd was for one to have a good, stiff and hard plus consistent jab with a good reach in order to tuck in your chin to keep from being countered. Oscar failed to be consistent with it at the end of the rounds in the fight. Even when Oscar was going at the body when he had Mayweather on the ropes it still wasn't doing much damage as it seemed. May would allow Oscar to tee off on him on the ropes just to play with his mind. Oscar was mostly hitting his arms, shoulder and elbows.
Neither The Terrorist or Pacman has a good stiff and consistent jab. But The Terrorist is the closest of the two to having a decent chance with it. The Terrorist's jab is weak, not stiff, or hard but it is quick and he does have the reach to not be countered when he uses it. Pacman will just try the old gameplan that so many have used and failed against with Floyd. Just swarm him with non stop punches and throw at all angles and go for broke. Put on pressure from the bell rings until it rings again. Floyd will neutralize this as he does all of his opponents and The Terrorist plus Pac make too many mistakes that May will capitalize on and make them pay dearly.
Putting pressure on a counter puncher is a counter punchers wet dream so be my guest. You have to be extremely patient, intelligent, have a very good jab with reach, make sure every move you make is calculated and it leaves you with numerous options, don't have a rhythm, have more than 1 game plan, once there is an opportunity to beat Mayweather that window will close as quick as it opened so be hasty when it comes.
Roach has the right game plan but not the right kind of fighters maybe if he had Martinez who has a very good jab. To me he is the only fighter within Floyd's weight range that can beat him and pose a surreal danger to him. Pacman and The Terrorist will just be a boxing clinic and if Floyd chooses to he might surprise us again and bang with them to an extent.
no, i think castillo showed you don't need a good, stiff and hard plus (nevar hurd dats grammar?) consistent jab with a good reach. and he certainly fought a much better fight than de la hoya BOTH times, despite Ben Thompson's mitigations of those two fights (mayweather beat castillo EASY in the second fight, he says.... despite the 115-113 scorecards from the judges and harold lederman). furthermore, in the first fight, castillo became the only opponent in mayweather's career who both out landed and had a higher connect % against floyd. You're gonna tell me Floyd won by landing the consistently harder shots against the hardest puncher in that division? i think bob arum threatened the judges' life and made them use the white-out to reverse the names on the scorecards.