QUOTE (Fitz @ Aug 10 2011, 04:43 AM)
He lost it in 95 as well for his first title defence.
Nope, that wasn't the case. Kostya Tszyu was scheduled to fight Mitchell A LONG time ago. He injured himself and the Mitchell fight was postponed twice. Tszyu was out of action for 22 months. Of course he was obliged to fight Mitchell after the post postponements, he was also the #1 guy at 140, while during that time, Mayweather was at 135 fight N'Dou. When exactly was he supposed to fight Mayweather when he was out injured for 22 months, and had a contract already signed to fight Mitchell well before those 22 months?
Mayweather signed with Gatti, and Tszyu lost his next fight. Sorry, but your timeline just doesn't add up. I know in hindsight, you can say he avoided Mayweather, but the fact is, the timing of everything was wrong. Tszyu's career finished while Mayweather picked up a paper title at 140.
It just didn't happen like you said it did.
When? Tszyu was out for 22 months, and had a contract done with Mitchell even before Cotto was even in the picture. Tszyu can't fight Cotto when he is out injured and has a fight signed with Mitchell, that had been postponed twice, can he?
When should have this happened? Cotto was green at the time anyways, they didn't want him in with Mayweather at 140 anyways, they wouldn't even have thrown Cotto in with Tszyu at that point, even if they could. But point is, Tszyu was out of action and the Cotto fight wasn't an option.
That's 4 years, not 6. Also, DLH last fought Chavez in 98, which makes it 2 years after Oscar had his last fight with him, not 6 years or 4 years. But point taken.
I'm not going to change your mind on what you think of Tszyu and Hopkins, but they are respected for a reason, and they clean out there respective divisions and dominated for years. You don't like that, fine. But myself and many other can respect that, as that is old school and what fighters should try and do. Rather pick and choose on who will give them the most money.
I'm not saying Tzyu avoided Mayweather im just stating he never pursued him. Tzyu stayed @140 for way too long when there was a hotbed of talent 7 lbs north that he never pursued. I'm not saying i dont respect either fighter because i do. I'm merely highlighting the fact that when there were good fighters around Tzyu he had no interest in fighting them.
here is mayweather saying he wants to fight Tzyu 5 months before the Hatton fight, i understand the timeline and the logistics of the fights. I understand the circumstances but in my eye Tzyu never persued greatness where fighters of the same time period(whitaker, DLH, Mosley) did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHF5HX6Jb0
Sorry about the typo mixed the years up in my head haha. It was 4 years because when they first fought it was @140 and thats what i was going by, the second fight was completely unnecessary and served only to line pockets.
I'm more disappointed as a fan that Tzyu was complacent not to want big fights, after the Judah fight he could have easily moved up or pursued bigger names yet he fought Tackie and Leija. He had already beaten the #2 and unified, what was the point of those defenses? he could have easily went up and looked for Mosley or Forrest or Mayorga. Mosley went north 12lbs to fight DLH and won, no reason for Tzyu not to even try for that fight.
It's whatever, Fitz i know you know your stuff and you are logical in your explanations. Back to Chris John, he beat JMM when he was on top and is complacent in defending and making money overseas. Gamboa and Juanma didn't want to go over there to fight him and Arum didn't wanna make that fight. John is co-promoted by GBP as well. The Linares fight was discussed but John wanted to go back to fight at home