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JONdaCON817
So i read that the schedualed Sept 17th fight of JCC jr vs Ronald Hearns may not happen.. DiBella (Hearns' promoter) says hes yet to receive a contract.. Apparently DiBella is under the impression that JCC jr may skip the Sept fight in order to pursue a fight in Nov vs. Peter Manfredo Jr (who DiBella also promotes)

this is a good idea to some extant.. obviously fighting the same night as Mayweather, Canelo, and Morales would be a bad idea, at the same time i feel like Arum may prefer to have Chavez Jr fight in Sept (possibly to try and take sum numbers away from May) instead of feeding Chavez to the Lions (in this case a semi-formidable opponent in Manfredo)

this is obviously a step up in competition but not by much...

Does Chavez fight Hearns or Manfredo?
Can Manfredo beat the heavily protected Chavez?

What are your thoughts?

i would say keep it clean but my hate for Chavez is so immense that i wouldnt mind it being as dirty as possible.
SmartyBeardo
QUOTE (JONdaCON817 @ Aug 6 2011, 04:49 PM) *
So i read that the schedualed Sept 17th fight of JCC jr vs Ronald Hearns may not happen.. DiBella (Hearns' promoter) says hes yet to receive a contract.. Apparently DiBella is under the impression that JCC jr may skip the Sept fight in order to pursue a fight in Nov vs. Peter Manfredo Jr (who DiBella also promotes)

this is a good idea to some extant.. obviously fighting the same night as Mayweather, Canelo, and Morales would be a bad idea, at the same time i feel like Arum may prefer to have Chavez Jr fight in Sept (possibly to try and take sum numbers away from May) instead of feeding Chavez to the Lions (in this case a semi-formidable opponent in Manfredo)

this is obviously a step up in competition but not by much...

Does Chavez fight Hearns or Manfredo?
Can Manfredo beat the heavily protected Chavez?

What are your thoughts?

i would say keep it clean but my hate for Chavez is so immense that i wouldnt mind it being as dirty as possible.

Whichever should be on an undercard.
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (JONdaCON817 @ Aug 6 2011, 06:49 PM) *
So i read that the schedualed Sept 17th fight of JCC jr vs Ronald Hearns may not happen.. DiBella (Hearns' promoter) says hes yet to receive a contract.. Apparently DiBella is under the impression that JCC jr may skip the Sept fight in order to pursue a fight in Nov vs. Peter Manfredo Jr (who DiBella also promotes)

this is a good idea to some extant.. obviously fighting the same night as Mayweather, Canelo, and Morales would be a bad idea, at the same time i feel like Arum may prefer to have Chavez Jr fight in Sept (possibly to try and take sum numbers away from May) instead of feeding Chavez to the Lions (in this case a semi-formidable opponent in Manfredo)

this is obviously a step up in competition but not by much...

Does Chavez fight Hearns or Manfredo?
Can Manfredo beat the heavily protected Chavez?

What are your thoughts?

i would say keep it clean but my hate for Chavez is so immense that i wouldnt mind it being as dirty as possible.

Why do you hate Chavez, I am just curious. He has 0 punching power, his defense my 1 year old can get through. He is well protected he is the son of a Mexican legend what do you expect? Overrated, darn skippy. I think both fights are lame. Until he fights someone worth a damn then he is either on Friday night fights or HBO Boxing AFter dark. The kid stinks.
JONdaCON817
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Aug 6 2011, 08:16 PM) *
Why do you hate Chavez, I am just curious. He has 0 punching power, his defense my 1 year old can get through. He is well protected he is the son of a Mexican legend what do you expect? Overrated, darn skippy. I think both fights are lame. Until he fights someone worth a damn then he is either on Friday night fights or HBO Boxing AFter dark. The kid stinks.


Yeaa... living in TX these crazy Mexicans swear JCC Jr is the greatest fighter since Ali... it drives me CRAZY. and there arguement is always "Oh hes juss starting his career off, hes still learn"... WTF?! Kill yo'self foo!!!.... lol

JONdaCON817
QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Aug 6 2011, 07:48 PM) *
Whichever should be on an undercard.


YES!!... idkk how this man can manage to headline PPVs. i swear i could beat JCC Jr's ass in a fist fight..

i think most ppl on this website can prolly do the same.
Hittman25
I was gonna say i dont think hearns or manfredo could beat chavez jr but when i think about it i think you could if u just stuff that jab in his face and move around i dont think chavez jr can box hes more of a brawler....but with the judges most likely on his side id say those guys will have a hard time beating him unless they get there power up and just keep landing flush on chavez jr..he will have to fall sooner than later because he doesnt take punches as well as daddy did...chavez jr gets reallly red from punishment where big chavez never got red and never looked like he ways taking a beating til father time catched up with him
gravytrain
QUOTE (JONdaCON817 @ Aug 6 2011, 09:30 PM) *
Yeaa... living in TX these crazy Mexicans swear JCC Jr is the greatest fighter since Ali... it drives me CRAZY. and there arguement is always "Oh hes juss starting his career off, hes still learn"... WTF?! Kill yo'self foo!!!.... lol



i personally can't stand the dude. he's lazy and only gets by on his dad's name.
caneman
QUOTE (JONdaCON817 @ Aug 6 2011, 06:49 PM) *
So i read that the schedualed Sept 17th fight of JCC jr vs Ronald Hearns may not happen.. DiBella (Hearns' promoter) says hes yet to receive a contract.. Apparently DiBella is under the impression that JCC jr may skip the Sept fight in order to pursue a fight in Nov vs. Peter Manfredo Jr (who DiBella also promotes)

this is a good idea to some extant.. obviously fighting the same night as Mayweather, Canelo, and Morales would be a bad idea, at the same time i feel like Arum may prefer to have Chavez Jr fight in Sept (possibly to try and take sum numbers away from May) instead of feeding Chavez to the Lions (in this case a semi-formidable opponent in Manfredo)

this is obviously a step up in competition but not by much...

Does Chavez fight Hearns or Manfredo?
Can Manfredo beat the heavily protected Chavez?

What are your thoughts?

i would say keep it clean but my hate for Chavez is so immense that i wouldnt mind it being as dirty as possible.



I know Maravilla wants to tap that ass! http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/168429-...-not-168-pounds
Romulus9
After the way Sebastian Zbik peppered him round after round and got ROBBED, Arum better give Chavez Jr. more protection than Sven Ottke got in Europe. The first time he fights someone with a pulse and it's not in a spot where everyone knows that the decision is in the bag if it's even much of a contest at all, the result will be really, really bad. On one hand, I'd love to see someone like Ronald Hearns or Peter Manfredo just walk out and ice him with a shot out of nowhere, but on the other hand there's something about watching someone get overly protected, spoon fed ridiculous opposition, and handed decisions based on name alone before finally stepping up to the level that it was assumed they'd already reached... and getting handed a soul-crushing beatdown that causes the women and children in the audience to weep and flee.

I'd love nothing more at this point than to see Chavez Jr. take a Richard Hall beatdown that gets so bad that hundreds and hundreds of fans are tossing their red "J.C. CHAVEZ JR." headbands into the ring to try to get the fight stopped... but Arthur Mercante Jr. just keeps kicking the headbands out of the ring and tells Julio to take his asskicking like a man.
caneman
QUOTE (Romulus9 @ Aug 7 2011, 11:24 AM) *
After the way Sebastian Zbik peppered him round after round and got ROBBED, Arum better give Chavez Jr. more protection than Sven Ottke got in Europe. The first time he fights someone with a pulse and it's not in a spot where everyone knows that the decision is in the bag if it's even much of a contest at all, the result will be really, really bad. On one hand, I'd love to see someone like Ronald Hearns or Peter Manfredo just walk out and ice him with a shot out of nowhere, but on the other hand there's something about watching someone get overly protected, spoon fed ridiculous opposition, and handed decisions based on name alone before finally stepping up to the level that it was assumed they'd already reached... and getting handed a soul-crushing beatdown that causes the women and children in the audience to weep and flee.

I'd love nothing more at this point than to see Chavez Jr. take a Richard Hall beatdown that gets so bad that hundreds and hundreds of fans are tossing their red "J.C. CHAVEZ JR." headbands into the ring to try to get the fight stopped... but Arthur Mercante Jr. just keeps kicking the headbands out of the ring and tells Julio to take his asskicking like a man.



LMAO times 100
JONdaCON817
QUOTE (Romulus9 @ Aug 7 2011, 11:24 AM) *
After the way Sebastian Zbik peppered him round after round and got ROBBED, Arum better give Chavez Jr. more protection than Sven Ottke got in Europe. The first time he fights someone with a pulse and it's not in a spot where everyone knows that the decision is in the bag if it's even much of a contest at all, the result will be really, really bad. On one hand, I'd love to see someone like Ronald Hearns or Peter Manfredo just walk out and ice him with a shot out of nowhere, but on the other hand there's something about watching someone get overly protected, spoon fed ridiculous opposition, and handed decisions based on name alone before finally stepping up to the level that it was assumed they'd already reached... and getting handed a soul-crushing beatdown that causes the women and children in the audience to weep and flee.

I'd love nothing more at this point than to see Chavez Jr. take a Richard Hall beatdown that gets so bad that hundreds and hundreds of fans are tossing their red "J.C. CHAVEZ JR." headbands into the ring to try to get the fight stopped... but Arthur Mercante Jr. just keeps kicking the headbands out of the ring and tells Julio to take his asskicking like a man.


I like the way you think my friend!!!...lol
JONdaCON817
QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 7 2011, 10:56 AM) *
I know Maravilla wants to tap that ass! http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/168429-...-not-168-pounds


lol.. i love how Sergio is tryin is damn hardest to rain on Top Ranks parade... lol
Jack 1000
QUOTE (Romulus9 @ Aug 7 2011, 11:24 AM) *
After the way Sebastian Zbik peppered him round after round and got ROBBED, Arum better give Chavez Jr. more protection than Sven Ottke got in Europe. The first time he fights someone with a pulse and it's not in a spot where everyone knows that the decision is in the bag if it's even much of a contest at all, the result will be really, really bad. On one hand, I'd love to see someone like Ronald Hearns or Peter Manfredo just walk out and ice him with a shot out of nowhere, but on the other hand there's something about watching someone get overly protected, spoon fed ridiculous opposition, and handed decisions based on name alone before finally stepping up to the level that it was assumed they'd already reached... and getting handed a soul-crushing beat-down that causes the women and children in the audience to weep and flee.

I'd love nothing more at this point than to see Chavez Jr. take a Richard Hall beat-down that gets so bad that hundreds and hundreds of fans are tossing their red "J.C. CHAVEZ JR." headbands into the ring to try to get the fight stopped... but Arthur Mercante Jr. just keeps kicking the headbands out of the ring and tells Julio to take his ass-kicking like a man.


Actually, many people, myself included thought Chavez Jr.-Zibik was a fair decision. Zibik would have had it if he would have been a little stronger in those last two rounds. I think I had it 115-113 for Chavez. But there is no denying that there is the potential for seriously bad verdicts in the future, if opponents of Chavez do not TKO/KO him. It's almost like the best an opponent will get against Chavez Jr. on the cards is a draw. UNLESS there is a huge money maker and/or another big star in the opposite corner. In fact, I would almost choose not to fight Chavez Jr. if I was Mandredo or Mora, or a faded Mosley, rumored to be Chavez Jr.'s next opponents, because there is no way that I think they will ever win a decision against him. And I would make that thought known to the public and the press.

The only reason Chavez Jr. is where he is being protected by the WBC is because he is Julio's kid. Even WBC board members know this. I asked the question in the post-fight thread for Chavez Jr.-Zibik, is there anyone who cannot beat Chavez Jr?

Jack
caneman
QUOTE (JONdaCON817 @ Aug 8 2011, 03:08 PM) *
lol.. i love how Sergio is tryin is damn hardest to rain on Top Ranks parade... lol



He ain't bias, he'll shit on anyone's parade, all they have to do is sign the contract!
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 8 2011, 09:10 PM) *
He ain't bias, he'll shit on anyone's parade, all they have to do is take the test!


Fixed for you mate, I assume thats what you meant. Thats how fights get made now these days no?
caneman
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Aug 8 2011, 06:28 PM) *
Fixed for you mate, I assume thats what you meant. Thats how fights get made now these days no?



yea I dare FMJ to push that one!!! Many here think FMJ will just move right on up, he WILL NEVER FIGHT MARAVILLA BARRING HIM GETTING STOPPED, BELIEVE THAT SHIT! IT SUCKS, AS IN FMJ, WE MAY NEVER SEE HOW GOOD MARAVILLA IS AND FOR A DIFFERENT REASON THEN THE SO CALLED NEXT COMING! BUT Pac, take the test bitch and call FMJ out for once!
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