Margarito's trainer Robert Garcia said that Team Cotto demanded a rehydrating clause for Margarito maximum of 160 on the day of the fight. You can read about this on BS.

How often do you think this happens and is never mentioned or agreed upon the fighters that it will not be mentioned to the public? Is there a possibility DLH agreed to a rehydrating clause vs Pacquiao? Why else would he overtrain to the point of only rehydrating to 148 on fight night?

Cotto knows the first fight had nothing to do with loaded gloves, and everything to do with getting hit on the head many many times. and he knows that unless Margarito is a big lumbering corpse, he is incapable of making the outcome any different than the first fight.

Yeah Cotto should've done himself a solid by doing some effective body work in the first fight. They used to praise him and kiss his ass all the way up to the 7th round of the Margarito bout...then it was a hush-mouth announcer's table.

The IBF has a re-hydration clause in every one of its title fights. 10 pounds.

A lot of people argue that Cotto was 'dominating' or 'outboxing' Margarito the first half of the fight but that isn't completely true. In at least 3 of those rounds as early as the 2nd or 3rd round, Cotto was taking A LOT of punishment from Margarito equally exchanging blows. Margarito also worked the body from the start. Unfortunately Cotto was in terminator mode and thought he could outpunch the Tijuana Tornado.

It's clear his camp is not completely confident going into this fight and that worries me. Margarito is going to be MASSIVE come fight night. 153 is cake for this dude. . .

I did not know this!

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ask yourself this....

where did cotto get this idea? once u figure that out....u'll have the answer to all ur questions.

The IBF?

Team Pacquiao...

That's pure speculation.

cotto never held the ibf title...but it's possible. i think u know who he learned it from.

bingo!

Yes he did dominate those first six rounds, treaded water in 7 and 8, got outgunned in 9, and got his clock cleaned for the remainder of the fight while it lasted. I saw Margarito pressing Cotto to the ropes towards the middle of the 1st round, and landed that wreckless ass, lunging uppercut-lookin' punch to Cotto's body about 3 or 4 times before the round ended. If Margarito could press his luck like that in the 1st round and land those punches while Cotto was still fresh and alert, then trouble wasn't too far around the corner...as we all witnessed.

It's well known that the IBF has a 10 pound re-hydration clause. No need for conspiracy theories nor speculation here.

no conspiracies....just careful observation.

or wild speculation, either one.

well...since ur the one taking it there...i guess u leave me no choice.

is there a coincidence that fight night weights were not posted on hbo for pac's fights since the dlh fight? dlh weighed 1lb less the day of the fight than he did the day before. most fighters put on significant weight right after the weigh in. why didn't dlh? that was the last bout that hbo posted fight night weights for a pacquiao bout.

manny went on to fight...

hatton- again...his fight night weight was not posted. roger mayweather mentioned in an interview that hatton was only allowed to gain 5lbs after the weigh in. could that have led to his devastating ko loss? u ever been punched in the head while u were dehydrated? i have...it's not fun. being dehydrated takes away from ur ability to take a punch.

cotto- we know he had to fight at 145....and guess what? they didn't post his weight the night of the fight either. he looked flat physically.

clottey- he was allowed to weigh in at 147....but did absolutely nothing during the fight. he actually looked to be the same size as pac during the fight. he's known to gain serious weight after weighing in. (*see clotty/corrales) his fight night weight wasn't posted. he later claimed to have diarrhea...ch...ch.

then there's margarito- margarito had to fight at a catchweight of 150. he was trying to drink something in the locker room before the fight as if trying to hydrate before he entered the ring. his weight was announced by jim "big right hand" lampley. i don't know how credible lampley's words are, but he claimed margarito was 160-something. i didn't see it. margarito looked flat and lifeless. again...aside from lampley's claim, there was no posted fight night weight.

last but not least...shane- we know he was allowed to weigh 147 for his fight...but again, fight night weights were not posted. he looked flat and almost as if he just came to survive. he said pac hit him harder than he's ever been hit before. i wonder if lack of hydration had anything to do with that?

of course this is all speculation but i know from personal experience that 'non-disclosure contract stipulations' exist in boxing because i have signed contracts with them.

I've heard all this garbage before. They don't show weights for lots of fights. I guess that means they all have super secret double probation clauses, too. That would include every Floyd fight in recent memory, as well as your boy Paul Williams.

They were trading rounds in the first half, it wasn't as dominant in favor of Cotto as most claim it was. Anybody who rewatches the fight can clearly see Margarito wasn't getting anywhere near outboxed or dominated.

Margarito was landing the effective punches all night long. Cotto already looked abused by round 6.

it's possible...but less likely.

Based on your speculation. I'm going to deal with the facts that we know instead.

fact: the dlh fight was the last pac fight that hbo posted fight night weights.

fact: roger mayweather stated that hatton was only allowed to gain 5lbs after the weigh in.

fact: no fight night weights were posted for hatton, cotto, clottey, margarito or mosley.

fact: non-disclosure contract stipulations exist.

yeah...me too.

Fact 1 is not true, and fact 2 is another opinion. Fact 3 can be applied to many other fights. Fact 4 is a known IBF rule.

-fixed fact 1

-fact 2...i'll take roger's statement over ur opinion.

-fact 3 doesn't eliminate them from speculation either.

-i'm going to need to see proof that it is an ibf rule to have 'non-disclosure contract stipulations'

pacquiao's whole career is based on having every competitive edge possible against his opponent. this guy is and has been a hand-crafted, manufactured mythos. not saying he's not a great fighter, and im not saying he's not the best fighter right now, but he's being over inflated by fighting opponents that were not allowed to enter the ring with any competitive even-handedness whatsoever. and lets not even talk about the steroids. look at pac's cranium when he fought morales and look at his head now. it's like the size of a fuckin cinder block.

Roger also perpetrates the existence of A side meth.

Didn't read your last one completely, sorry. I tend to skim your posts.

Tell me about the edges he had over JMM and MAB.

i agree for the most part. i wouldn't say his 'whole career' but at least everything above 130. i won't touch the steroid talk.

roger also happens to be floyd sr's brother. i think he'd know about that fight a little more than u would.

yeah...i skim urs too.

Looks like this is about to turn into a Pacquiao/Mayweather thread, so Im planning my exit accordingly ...

Being the brother of a convicted felon is even more credible. Man, I bet that dude never lies and knows everything.

Don't you think is there was some sort of super secret non disclosure clause, something would've happened when he, you know, disclosed it?

not if we stick to the subject...but it's no secret that the only ppl who defend pac's stipulations are pactards.

It's no secret that folks that make sh1t up pretend it's real.

not necessarily. they probably have the same mind set as u...."no one will ever believe this guy...he's not credible...blah,blah,blah.." also, go after him gives the theory more weight.

This is silly, even for you.

it's not a secret that folks who can't see facts for what they are prefer to stick their heads in the sand.

You prove this daily.

so u agree that saying he isn't credible is silly...got it.

This is typical of your inability to read and comprehend.

i knew it would only be a matter of time before u came over to this board to stalk me. where's the rest of the clique?

Delusions of self importance and grandeur are never far off with you

The clique has notified me that the real board is almost done. You can have this place all to yourself.

don't worry...i'll be over there once it's back up. no need for stalker withdrawls.

I have no doubt, you can't stay away from the clique.

ur the one who followed me here and responded to my post.

More delusions. I didn't follow anyone. I just try to keep misinformation to a minimum, it's bad enough you've infected one board with senseless boolsh1t.

we all can't bring the high level of substance u post. ur boxing knowledge is unparalleled and i'm not sure why u haven't been crowned boxing knowledge king. it's an honor to read ur posts. thank u for gracing us with ur presence. now get the fvck outta here.

Go fvck yourself.

i love u too!