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Allmenjoi8
Who is your top Five for this week?
zucrates
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Sep 19 2011, 11:43 PM) *
Who is your top Five for this week?

Vitali
Bute
Martinez
Floyd
Pacman


"I had already ordered them to continue fighting and the clock was running, but Ortiz wanted to apologize again and he was off guard. Mayweather, who is more experienced, he took advantage, but did nothing illegal. Nowhere is there a rule that says the boxer has to apologize and hug the other fighter and do it at least two or three times." Joe Cortez
Spyder
1. Maravilla
2. Pac
3. Floyd
4. Nonito
5. Gamboa
mrchitown
1) Floyd
2) Pacquio
3) Martinez
4) Donaire
5) B-Hop
D-MARV
1. Floyd
2. Pacquiao
3. Donaire
4. Martinez
5. Ward
D-MARV
1. Floyd
2. Pacquiao
3. Donaire
4. Martinez
5. Ward
JONdaCON817
Floyd

Pacquiao

Martinez

Ward

Gamboa
lloyd mayflower
Finding it really hard to see how guys can have Andre Ward in the top 5 until after his fight with Froch, an impressive win there MIGHT put him in the top 5, but I reckon top 10 is more realistic.

Pac
Floyd
Donaire
Sergio
Gamboa
Allmenjoi8
It's interesting people are putting Donaire on their list. Not a criticism
CrazyBuffalO
1. Floyd
2. Doesn't matter who's second. It's ok if Pac is. But Floyd is still first.
3. <Insert name here>
4. ...
5. List complete.

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Cshel86
QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 20 2011, 10:49 AM) *
1. Floyd
2. Doesn't matter who's second. It's ok if Pac is. But Floyd is still first.
3. <Insert name here>
4. ...
5. List complete.

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Man I swear, sometimes its like you are itching to get harassed on this board. Not to say that it will be me, but dammit man...
streetlion1
Gayweather
Ward
Pacroid
Martinez
Gamboa
CrazyBuffalO
QUOTE (cshel86 @ Sep 20 2011, 11:57 PM) *
Man I swear, sometimes its like you are itching to get harassed on this board. Not to say that it will be me, but dammit man...


I follow boxing these days mainly of Floyd. And it's also Floyd that got me to Fighthype.com in the first place (I was searching for Floyd news and this site showed up).

I only usually like one athlete per sport that I follow. In boxing it's Floyd. And in other sports its some other guy.

So do people get harassed for that?? Well they better get their heads checked.
EAlbian
1(a). Pac
1(b ). May
2. Martinez
3. Hopkins
4. W. Klit
5. Marquez
6. Ward
7. Donaire
8. V. Klit
9. Wonjongkam
10. Gamboa
Cshel86
QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 20 2011, 11:04 AM) *
I follow boxing these days mainly of Floyd. And it's also Floyd that got me to Fighthype.com in the first place (I was searching for Floyd news and this site showed up).

I only usually like one athlete per sport that I follow. In boxing it's Floyd. And in other sports its some other guy.

So do people get harassed for that?? Well they better get their heads checked.


As you say. I cant knock it...
EAlbian
QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 20 2011, 10:04 AM) *
I follow boxing these days mainly of Floyd. And it's also Floyd that got me to Fighthype.com in the first place (I was searching for Floyd news and this site showed up).

I only usually like one athlete per sport that I follow. In boxing it's Floyd. And in other sports its some other guy.

So do people get harassed for that?? Well they better get their heads checked.


sounds pretty gay to me. so basically you don't like boxing(or other sports) you like guys?
JLUVBABY
i have a question... and this is not a harassment for the people that rank him so high but id just like some clarity on the guy... besides paul williams who we now know was an accident waiting to happen... who has sergio martinez beaten to become considered in somes views the p4p king?... personally i dont see it and would just liek it broken down from one, some or all the guys that have him ranked so high... to me it just seems he two pieces williams and all of a sudden he is top 3 p4p and im not getting that... he is a good fighter but just my opinion he hasnt faced enough top quality opp to be above pac and may or even at his age hopkins no matter how you rank them... and even a ward at this point... and i can think of a few other fighters that are two piecing top rank opp at this point like gamboa and donaire that deserve to be above this guy.... even vitali klit as weak as the heavies are... im just saying... sergio MAY be the goods but in my opinion he is ranked on that p4p list off one performance and a fight kelly pavlik barely lost... i see major holes in this guys fighting style that once he fights the right opponent will be exploited....

this is his boxrec for quick reference...

2011-10-01 Darren Barker 23(14)-0-0

Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States 12
WBC Diamond middleweight title
bout subject to change & commission approval


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2011-03-12 158¾ Serhiy Dzinziruk 158¾ 37-0-0

Foxwoods Resort, Mashantucket, Connecticut, United States W TKO 8 12

time: 1:43 | referee: Arthur Mercante Jr. | judge: Glenn Feldman 69-62 | judge: Julie Lederman 69-62 | judge: Steve Weisfeld 69-62
vacant WBC Diamond middleweight title
Dzinziruk down once in each of rounds 4 and 5, down three times in round 8


2010-11-20 157¼ Paul Williams 156 39-1-0

Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W KO 2 12

time: 1:10 | referee: Earl Morton | judge: Luis Rivera | judge: John Stewart | judge: Craig Metcalfe
WBC middleweight title (supervisor: Chuck Williams)
Catchweight 158 lb.


2010-04-17 159½ Kelly Pavlik 159½ 36-1-0

Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W UD 12 12

referee: David Fields | judge: Craig Metcalfe 115-112 | judge: Barbara Perez 115-111 | judge: Roberto Ramirez 116-111
WBC middleweight title
WBO middleweight title


2009-12-05 159 Paul Williams 157 37-1-0

Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States L MD 12 12

referee: Randy Neumann | judge: Pierre Benoist 110-119 | judge: Lynne Carter 113-115 | judge: Julie Lederman 114-114
Boxers traded knockdowns in 1st rd.


2009-02-14 153¼ Kermit Cintron 154 30-2-0

BankAtlantic Center, Sunrise, Florida, United States D MD 12 12

referee: Frank Santore Jr. | judge: Tom Kaczmarek 116-110 | judge: Ged O'Connor 113-113 | judge: Peter Trematerra 113-113
interim WBC light middleweight title


2008-10-04 154 Alex Bunema 152½ 30-5-2

Pechanga Resort & Casino, Temecula, California, United States W RTD 8 12

time: 3:00 | referee: Raul Caiz Sr | judge: Max DeLuca 80-71 | judge: Nicolas Hidalgo 80-70 | judge: Alejandro Rochin Mapula 80-70
interim WBC light middleweight title


2008-06-07 Archak TerMeliksetian 16-6-0

Mohegan Sun Casino, Uncasville, Connecticut, United States W TKO 7 10

time: 2:14 | referee: Danny Schiavone | judge: John McKaie | judge: Don O'Neill | judge: Don Trella


2008-02-16 155 David Toribio 162 14-10-0

MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 4 4

referee: Jay Nady | judge: Duane Ford 40-36 | judge: C.J. Ross 40-36 | judge: Al Lefkowitz 39-35


2007-12-06 154 Russell Jordan 153¾ 14-4-0

Paradise Theater, Bronx, New York, United States W TKO 4 10

time: 0:59 | referee: Pete Santiago | judge: Julie Lederman | judge: Waleska Roldan | judge: Don Trella


2007-10-06 Pavel Florin Madalin 3-34-2

Polideportivo Sage 2000, Madrid, Comunidad de Madrid, Spain W RTD 4 6


2007-04-27 154 Saul Roman 152¾ 27-2-0

Grand Plaza Hotel, Houston, Texas, United States W KO 4 12

time: 2:25
WBC Light Middleweight Title Eliminator
Body shot


2006-10-07 154 Oliver Tchinda 1-7-2

Pabellon La Solidaridad, Fuenlabrada, Comunidad de Madrid, Spain W KO 5 8


2006-05-26 154 Vasile Surcica 13-24-2

Poliesportiu Insular Blanca Dona, Ibiza, Islas Baleares, Spain W UD 12 12

referee: Francisco Vazquez Marcos | 120-106 | 120-106 | 119-107
WBC Latino light middleweight title


2006-04-01 159 Presente Brito 160 11-14-3

Estadio Rayo Vallecano, Comunidad de Madrid, Spain W TKO 1 8

referee: Vicente Ruiz Tendero


2005-11-04 154 Tamaz Tskrialashvili 154½ 7-9-0

La Cubierta, Leganes, Comunidad de Madrid, Spain W TKO 6 8


2005-10-05 152 Alvaro Moreno Gamboa 12-23-2

La Linea, Andalucía, Spain W KO 2 12

WBC Latino light middleweight title


2005-03-04 153 Albert Airapetian 153½ 18-1-0

Leon, Castilla y León, Spain W KO 11 12

referee: Jose Vilas Muller | judge: Jesus Morata Garcia | judge: Francisco Vazquez Marcos | judge: Manuel Oliver Palomo
WBC Latino light middleweight title


2005-01-07 155 Jorge Teixeira Pina 2-3-0

Pabellon Municipal, Lugo, Galicia, Spain W RTD 5 8


2004-04-17 153½ Richard Williams 153½ 18-2-1

Kings Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W TKO 9 12x3

time: 1:25 | referee: Pat Russell | judge: John Coyle | judge: Marcus McDonnell | judge: Rocky Young
International Boxing Organization light middleweight title


2003-10-09 153¼ Adrian Stone 152½ 33-4-2

Whitchurch Leisure Centre, Bristol, Avon, United Kingdom W KO 12 12x3

time: 1:50 | referee: Paul Thomas | judge: Robert Byrd | judge: Terry O'Connor | judge: Andre Van Grootenbruel
International Boxing Organization light middleweight title


2003-06-21 152¾ Richard Williams 153¾ 17-1-1

M.E.N. Arena, Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom W UD 12 12x3

referee: Frank Santore Jr. | judge: Terry O'Connor 115-110 | judge: John Coyle 115-112 | judge: Andre Van Grootenbruel 116-110
International Boxing Organization light middleweight title


2003-05-09 150 Frank Oppong 150¼ 6-0-1

La Cubierta Palazo de Toros, Leganes, Comunidad de Madrid, Spain W UD 8 8


2003-02-07 150 Miguel Angel Perez 11-10-1

Cubierta de Leganes, Madrid, Comunidad de Madrid, Spain W KO 1 8


2002-07-12 150¾ Vasile Surcica 9-14-1

Campo de Futbol Las Americas, Parla, Comunidad de Madrid, Spain W PTS 8 8


2002-04-26 154 Alvaro Moreno Gamboa 8-12-1

Barcelona, Cataluña, Spain W PTS 8 8


2002-02-02 151¼ Francisco Antonio Mora 153¾ 34-3-0

Estadio F.A.B., Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina W UD 10 10

referee: Luis Carlos Guzman | judge: Hector Primerano 99-92 | judge: Arturo Villegas 99-92 | judge: Omar Fernandez 99-92½


2001-10-27 146¼ Sergio Ernesto Acuna 145¾ 26-5-0

Estadio F.A.B., Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina W TKO 7 12

time: 1:47 | referee: Raul Ilvento
Argentina (FAB) welterweight title
Acuña down in the 4th round
Martínez was stripped of the title in May 2002


2001-09-08 145½ Javier Alejandro Blanco 146¼ 13-3-4

Estadio F.A.B., Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina W UD 10 10

referee: Carlos Correa | judge: Humberto Boccardi 99½-92½ | judge: Omar Fernandez 97½-92½ | judge: Basilio Flecha 100-91
vacant Argentina (FAB) welterweight title
Title vacated when Sergio Ernesto Acuña is stripped


2001-07-14 150½ Enrique Areco 155½ 40-13-7

Ce.De.M. N° 2, Caseros, Buenos Aires, Argentina W RTD 8 8

time: 0:01 | referee: Carlos Roldán | judge: Basilio Flecha | judge: Manuel Veliz | judge: Humberto Boccardi


2001-05-19 151 Elbio Felipe Gonzalez 154 15-8-2

Nueve de Julio, Buenos Aires, Argentina W TKO 6 10


2000-06-16 147 Adrian Walter Daneff 147 25-15-2

Club Argentino de Quilmes, Quilmes, Buenos Aires, Argentina W KO 4 12

WBO Latino welterweight title


2000-05-05 147 Javier Alejandro Blanco 145 6-2-3

Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina W PTS 8 8


2000-04-15 146¾ Raul Eduardo Bejarano 146¾ 9-1-2

Club Argentino de Quilmes, Quilmes, Buenos Aires, Argentina W PTS 6 6


2000-02-19 148 Antonio Margarito 147½ 20-3-0

Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L TKO 7 10

time: 2:57 | referee: Joe Cortez | judge: Art Lurie | judge: Al Siciliano | judge: Glenn Trowbridge


1999-10-22 147 Paulo Alejandro Sanchez 147 24-5-0

Club Argentino de Quilmes, Quilmes, Buenos Aires, Argentina W UD 10 10


1999-10-09 151½ Silvio Walter Rojas 151½ 27-25-4

Círculo General Belgrano, Ciudad Evita, Buenos Aires, Argentina W UD 10 10

referee: Luis Carlos Guzman | judge: Reinaldo Scalercio 100-87 | judge: Ramon Cerdan 100-90 | judge: Carlos Rodriguez Scarilli 100-87


1999-09-11 147 Walter Fabian Saporiti 147 29-7-2

Club Argentino de Quilmes, Quilmes, Buenos Aires, Argentina W TKO 2 8


1999-08-28 146½ Ariel Gabriel Chaves 147 38-4-1

Club Argentino de Quilmes, Quilmes, Buenos Aires, Argentina W UD 10 10


1999-07-17 149 Paulo Alejandro Sanchez 148 24-4-0

Villa Dominico, Buenos Aires, Argentina W UD 10 10


1999-06-26 147 Silvio Walter Rojas 149 26-23-3

Club Argentino de Quilmes, Quilmes, Buenos Aires, Argentina W UD 10 10


1999-05-15 148½ Elio Vaca Anglarill 148½ 11-6-1

Club Argentino de Quilmes, Quilmes, Buenos Aires, Argentina W UD 8 8


1999-04-17 149 Jose Antonio Perez 147 17-13-0

Club Argentino de Quilmes, Quilmes, Buenos Aires, Argentina W PTS 8 8


1999-03-19 151½ Ignacio Ramon Caceres 152½ 5-0-2

Club Argentino de Quilmes, Quilmes, Buenos Aires, Argentina W RTD 4 6


1999-03-05 148¾ Arnaldo Gabriel Molina 148¾ 2-1-0

Mar del Plata, Buenos Aires, Argentina W RTD 5 6


1998-12-04 147¾ Gabriel Leonidas Leiva 150 3-0-0

Estudios Canal 9 TV, Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina W TKO 3 8


1998-09-04 147¼ Luis Alberto Baldomir 146¼ 7-2-0

Estadio F.A.B., Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina W RTD 5 8


1998-08-22 147¾ Juan Mauricio Marino 147¾ 3-1-0

Estadio F.A.B., Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina W UD 6 6


1998-07-25 150¼ Mario Javier Nieva 148¾ 3-6-1

Estadio F.A.B., Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina W UD 6 6


1998-03-14 148¼ Mario Javier Nieva 151 3-6-0

Estudios de America T.V., Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina D PTS 4 4


1998-02-20 148 Julio Cesar Villalva 148 4-4-0

Cipolletti, Rio Negro, Argentina W TKO 1 6


1997-12-27 146¾ Cristian Marcelo Vivas 146¾ 0-1-0
Ituzaingo, Buenos Aires, Argentina W DQ 2 6

Pro debut for Martínez



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EAlbian
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Sep 20 2011, 10:30 AM) *
i have a question... and this is not a harassment for the people that rank him so high but id just like some clarity on the guy... besides paul williams who we now know was an accident waiting to happen... who has sergio martinez beaten to become considered in somes views the p4p king?... personally i dont see it and would just liek it broken down from one, some or all the guys that have him ranked so high... to me it just seems he two pieces williams and all of a sudden he is top 3 p4p and im not getting that... he is a good fighter but just my opinion he hasnt faced enough top quality opp to be above pac and may or even at his age hopkins no matter how you rank them... and even a ward at this point... and i can think of a few other fighters that are two piecing top rank opp at this point like gamboa and donaire that deserve to be above this guy.... even vitali klit as weak as the heavies are... im just saying... sergio MAY be the goods but in my opinion he is ranked on that p4p list off one performance and a fight kelly pavlik barely lost... i see major holes in this guys fighting style that once he fights the right opponent will be exploited....



I think mainly it comes from many people having Williams as p4p top 5 when they had their first fight(many thought Martinez won, i had a draw) and his win over Pavlik who had yet to lose @160 and then the utter destruction of Williams when he was still p4p top 3. He then dominated Dzinzurik who had never lost or been put down(albeit weak opposition). I have him high but only until some of the other guys usurp him. He gets no credit for a barker win and the only fights that elevate him in my book are Ward/Froch winner Bute or Hopkins/Cloud. I think if he walks around 30 days before a fight @176 and look shredded he can easily fight at 168
Cshel86
QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 20 2011, 11:04 AM) *
I follow boxing these days mainly of Floyd. And it's also Floyd that got me to Fighthype.com in the first place (I was searching for Floyd news and this site showed up).

I only usually like one athlete per sport that I follow. In boxing it's Floyd. And in other sports its some other guy.

So do people get harassed for that?? Well they better get their heads checked.



QUOTE (EAlbian @ Sep 20 2011, 11:25 AM) *
sounds pretty gay to me. so basically you don't like boxing(or other sports) you like guys?


See why I just left it alone EAlbian? Lol. Buffalo never has anything to contribute about other boxers, other than FMJ. As lengthy as his hogwash posts are, he could study the sport and contribute info about other boxers. Yet he only has about 35 posts, and they all swing from Floyd's scrotum...other than that, you never see him in other threads.

If he is in another thread, guess who's name comes outta his mouth everytime he cracks it open? Wait, wait, we ALLLL know the answer to this one! Delusions of adequacy take you a loooong way, just for you to find out that you've gone nowhere at all no2.gif Like I said earlier, I just left him alone...
CrazyBuffalO
QUOTE (EAlbian @ Sep 21 2011, 12:25 AM) *
sounds pretty gay to me. so basically you don't like boxing(or other sports) you like guys?


Floyd is what makes boxing alive today. You have to acknowledge that. You can go ahead and post your top 5 or your top 10 or your top 100 boxers but it doesn't make any difference since only Floyd has an UNDEFEATED record.

I've looked at your top 10 picks and you have a list of defeated guys. As I said you can post 10, 20, 100 or 1,000 guys but they all got defeats in their professional records. Tainted. Pathetic.

When someone asks me to give my Top 5 list, I don't need to mention 5 guys. Only ONE is enough. The UNDEFEATED one. The Greatest one.

I don't just follow any athlete. In other sports too, the ones that I follow are ones with exceptional records.

And whoever taught you to dislike guys is a moron. Your father is a guy. Your grandfather is a guy. Your brother (if you do have one) is a guy. Does that mean you DISLIKE them simply to not be branded gay by your peers?? C'mon man. You idiot. Have your own mind, don't follow the herd. I know what peers do at school and at work. If you are weak minded you'd succumb to them. Be smart. Be educated.
JLUVBABY
QUOTE (EAlbian @ Sep 20 2011, 10:44 AM) *
I think mainly it comes from many people having Williams as p4p top 5 when they had their first fight(many thought Martinez won, i had a draw) and his win over Pavlik who had yet to lose @160 and then the utter destruction of Williams when he was still p4p top 3. He then dominated Dzinzurik who had never lost or been put down(albeit weak opposition). I have him high but only until some of the other guys usurp him. He gets no credit for a barker win and the only fights that elevate him in my book are Ward/Froch winner Bute or Hopkins/Cloud. I think if he walks around 30 days before a fight @176 and look shredded he can easily fight at 168


ok... now the way i see it is this... was williams really p4p 5 in the world even at that time... boxing is becoming a sport that it seems people WANT TO MAKE the next BIG THING... now lets back track.... who had williams really beaten up till that point?... margarito (known cheater now) winky wright (the most talented inactive fighter in the last how many years) just saying... williams is a good fighter as well but you really get down to it he is a b class fighter.. wright is enjoying his miney he has invested pretty well fuckin with ho's etc and comes back time and again to add to it.... there is a progression here.... who did williams REALLY beat?.. you get where im going with this?... lol.. and my point is pavlik was by time martinez beat him and he did beat him... BARELY... that was razor thin by the way... but pavlik was on the bottle by that time... im just saying.. its marred... not hating... just seeing things from a perspective i know some dont wish to look at... and again sometimes people see what looks like a stellar performance and is quick to elevate that person whn really what they are seeing is a mirage... and thats not to say martinez is not the goods but he sure is calling out some small guys to say he REALLY is.. just my thoughts on the guy... and one of the small guys he's asking for i think may have his number... just saying... martinez is a middleweight... he beats a guy like sturm.... i will give him his props...
EAlbian
QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 20 2011, 10:52 AM) *
Floyd is what makes boxing alive today. You have to acknowledge that. You can go ahead and post your top 5 or your top 10 or your top 100 boxers but it doesn't make any difference since only Floyd has an UNDEFEATED record.

I've looked at your top 10 picks and you have a list of defeated guys. As I said you can post 10, 20, 100 or 1,000 guys but they all got defeats in their professional records. Tainted. Pathetic.

When someone asks me to give my Top 5 list, I don't need to mention 5 guys. Only ONE is enough. The UNDEFEATED one. The Greatest one.

I don't just follow any athlete. In other sports too, the ones that I follow are ones with exceptional records.

And whoever taught you to dislike guys is a moron. Your father is a guy. Your grandfather is a guy. Your brother (if you do have one) is a guy. Does that mean you DISLIKE them simply to not be branded gay by your peers?? C'mon man. You idiot. Have your own mind, don't follow the herd. I know what peers do at school and at work. If you are weak minded you'd succumb to them. Be smart. Be educated.


haha, this is retarded. I didn't say I don't like guys(love my pops, grandpops, and brother) but i don't do any one thing or like any one thing because of one guy. That sounds like a crush to me. Andre Ward is undefeated and so is Gamboa, so you're wrong. Gamboa and Ward are also both Olympic Gold medalist and haven't lost since before the olympics, floyd lost before the gold medal round. Does that mean Ward and Gamboa are better? Floyd aint got no gold medal. You're dumb and know nothing about boxing, I'm pretty sure I know more about Mayweather as well but he is far from the reason I love boxing. Fag
EAlbian
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Sep 20 2011, 11:01 AM) *
ok... now the way i see it is this... was williams really p4p 5 in the world even at that time... boxing is becoming a sport that it seems people WANT TO MAKE the next BIG THING... now lets back track.... who had williams really beaten up till that point?... margarito (known cheater now) winky wright (the most talented inactive fighter in the last how many years) just saying... williams is a good fighter as well but you really get down to it he is a b class fighter.. wright is enjoying his miney he has invested pretty well fuckin with ho's etc and comes back time and again to add to it.... there is a progression here.... who did williams REALLY beat?.. you get where im going with this?... lol.. and my point is pavlik was by time martinez beat him and he did beat him... BARELY... that was razor thin by the way... but pavlik was on the bottle by that time... im just saying.. its marred... not hating... just seeing things from a perspective i know some dont wish to look at... and again sometimes people see what looks like a stellar performance and is quick to elevate that person whn really what they are seeing is a mirage... and thats not to say martinez is not the goods but he sure is calling out some small guys to say he REALLY is.. just my thoughts on the guy... and one of the small guys he's asking for i think may have his number... just saying... martinez is a middleweight... he beats a guy like sturm.... i will give him his props...


Oh I agree with you on overrating guys but it was what it was at the time. Who has Sturm beat tho? Macklin got robbed and 160 is weak, if he wants props he needs to go north to get them. I think he really just wants to get paid tho

Boxing is in a changing of the guard stage right now and there are some really good younger guys on the come up, I think we see Marquez and Martinez start to drop as guys like Gamboa, Khan, and Donaire step up. There are a lot of good fighters on the rise from 118-140 and a lot of really good potential match-ups that I'm hoping we get to see. 135 could be stacked in a yr with Gamboa, Junama, Broner, and Rios. 175 could be pretty deep as well with Dawson, Hopkins, Cloud, Froch, Ward, and Ismayl Sillakh(dude is the truth if you haven't seen him). 147 also looks pretty deep as well with the influx from 140. 154 has some good match-ups to be made as well, I think in 24 months the whole p4p top ten see's some major changes
CrazyBuffalO
QUOTE (EAlbian @ Sep 21 2011, 01:02 AM) *
haha, this is retarded. I didn't say I don't like guys(love my pops, grandpops, and brother)

But you just posted something about me liking guys being something to do with being gay. C'mon man, now you contradict yourself. Oh well...

QUOTE (EAlbian @ Sep 21 2011, 01:02 AM) *
but i don't do any one thing or like any one thing because of one guy. That sounds like a crush to me.

I didn't say you have to be like me too (for liking one sport because of one guy). Thats your thing and this is my thing. To each his own. You see? I didn't go and attack you. But you came and attacked me. You know when people can't have their free speech and speak their minds then you know civilization must be crumbling...
You do not have the right to impose what you think you want on others. You may have done this to other Floyd fans before, but you can't do this to me. I can be provocative with certain posts at times, but I can argue intelligently when needed.

What do you think you're doing going around acting like a housewife? I mean guys shouldn't be noisy and all if matters don't concern them. I don't even know you. None of my posts were even about YOU or any other member for that matter.

QUOTE (EAlbian @ Sep 21 2011, 01:02 AM) *
Andre Ward is undefeated and so is Gamboa, so you're wrong. Gamboa and Ward are also both Olympic Gold medalist and haven't lost since before the olympics, floyd lost before the gold medal round. Does that mean Ward and Gamboa are better? Floyd aint got no gold medal. You're dumb and know nothing about boxing, I'm pretty sure I know more about Mayweather as well but he is far from the reason I love boxing. Fag


Floyd is what sells PPVs and whats keeping all boxing fans world wide frenzied for a possible Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight.
Fuck what does Andre Ward and Gamboa compare to Floyd?? Love it or hate it Floyd is whats keeping boxing interesting today.

Next time I'll ask for YOUR opinion if I need it. But don't go if UNASKED. Jeez...
JLUVBABY
QUOTE (EAlbian @ Sep 20 2011, 11:20 AM) *
Oh I agree with you on overrating guys but it was what it was at the time. Who has Sturm beat tho? Macklin got robbed and 160 is weak, if he wants props he needs to go north to get them. I think he really just wants to get paid tho

Boxing is in a changing of the guard stage right now and there are some really good younger guys on the come up, I think we see Marquez and Martinez start to drop as guys like Gamboa, Khan, and Donaire step up. There are a lot of good fighters on the rise from 118-140 and a lot of really good potential match-ups that I'm hoping we get to see. 135 could be stacked in a yr with Gamboa, Junama, Broner, and Rios. 175 could be pretty deep as well with Dawson, Hopkins, Cloud, Froch, Ward, and Ismayl Sillakh(dude is the truth if you haven't seen him). 147 also looks pretty deep as well with the influx from 140. 154 has some good match-ups to be made as well, I think in 24 months the whole p4p top ten see's some major changes


sturm beat dela hoya back in the days only tot robbed.. that fight sent him back to europe scared to come back and i dont blame him... maybe not his prime but it damn sure wasnt the hoya that lost to pac (pac dont beat a prime hoya.. in my opinion)... but that fight aside he has been caged up in europe where it looks like the quality is about to start coming from... after a fighter like andre ward... who else do we have here that is young and has real star potential?.... i say that to say sturm is in the right place to maximize his money rather WE like it or not... and im not sure martinez beats sturm...

on another note yeah you right ismayl silakh is the truth and he boutto beat up my homeboy chris henry... lmao... cant wait to see chris so i can ask him what the hell made him take that damn fight... its signed from what i know for early next year... chris got a punchers chance but he gonna get his ass kicked royally... lmao...
EAlbian
QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 20 2011, 11:21 AM) *
But you just posted something about me liking guys being something to do with being gay. C'mon man, now you contradict yourself. Oh well...


I didn't say you have to be like me too (for liking one sport because of one guy). Thats your thing and this is my thing. To each his own. You see? I didn't go and attack you. But you came and attacked me. You know when people can't have their free speech and speak their minds then you know civilization must be crumbling...
You do not have the right to impose what you think you want on others. You may have done this to other Floyd fans before, but you can't do this to me. I can be provocative with certain posts at times, but I can argue intelligently when needed.

What do you think you're doing going around acting like a housewife? I mean guys shouldn't be noisy and all if matters don't concern them. I don't even know you. None of my posts were even about YOU or any other member for that matter.



Floyd is what sells PPVs and whats keeping all boxing fans world wide frenzied for a possible Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight.
Fuck what does Andre Ward and Gamboa compare to Floyd?? Love it or hate it Floyd is whats keeping boxing interesting today.

Next time I'll ask for YOUR opinion if I need it. But don't go if UNASKED. Jeez...


you are retarded and bring nothing to this forum. I said what you like sounds pretty gay to me, sounds like you have a crush on the guy. I don't care if you asked for my opinion, you got it. It's a forum, I'll post whatever i want until i get banned. PPV's are not what drive the sport for real fans, every PPV has been a bust this year and there have been a bunch of good fights on ESPN(supposed to be the lowest of major tv outlets). In Europe there are fighters that do pretty great PPV #'s over there, they don't drive shit. They stopped selling some of the Klitschko PPV's in the US because there was no market. Floyd isn't what is keeping boxing interesting for most boxing fans, you're not a boxing fan. You are a self admitted Floyd fan, Floyd drives your love of Floyd. How do you not get we are comparing apples to bananas. Floyd gives you a raging banana, you cum on here to tell us how much you love Floyd. I like watch people fight and box, I come on here to talk about boxing and fights
EAlbian
QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Sep 20 2011, 11:32 AM) *
sturm beat dela hoya back in the days only tot robbed.. that fight sent him back to europe scared to come back and i dont blame him... maybe not his prime but it damn sure wasnt the hoya that lost to pac (pac dont beat a prime hoya.. in my opinion)... but that fight aside he has been caged up in europe where it looks like the quality is about to start coming from... after a fighter like andre ward... who else do we have here that is young and has real star potential?.... i say that to say sturm is in the right place to maximize his money rather WE like it or not... and im not sure martinez beats sturm...

on another note yeah you right ismayl silakh is the truth and he boutto beat up my homeboy chris henry... lmao... cant wait to see chris so i can ask him what the hell made him take that damn fight... its signed from what i know for early next year... chris got a punchers chance but he gonna get his ass kicked royally... lmao...


Sturm also lost to Javier Castellejo who DLH destroyed, he wasn't asked to come back. He avoided Dzinzurik while they both were at Universum, same with Abraham when they were both huge draws in Germany. Macklin whooped him, they robbed Grevor who Abraham dismantled, robbed Griffin(who isn't good). He's really not that good. His claim to fame is he got robbed against a fat DLH who took him way too lightly.

America is definitely lacking but we have Ward and Donaire maybe Broner. I think Rios and Ortiz make for action fights. Chad Dawson might upset B-Hop and Cloud is a good pressure fighter. GBP has a couple young guys coming up, Frankie Gomez is suppose to be on the come up. Gary Russell Jr looks like he's got some sizzle. Jose Benavidez is suppose to be something and maybe Danny Garcia(beat a tough Theopane). I've heard some stuff about Keith Thurman. I thought Vernon Paris was impressive in his win over Coleman.

Call me crazy but I think Andre Dirrewll could make for some noise @175. I think one day Deontay Wilder could be the next American Heavyweight Champ.

CrazyBuffalO
QUOTE (EAlbian @ Sep 21 2011, 01:40 AM) *
you are retarded and bring nothing to this forum. I said what you like sounds pretty gay to me, sounds like you have a crush on the guy. I don't care if you asked for my opinion, you got it. It's a forum, I'll post whatever i want until i get banned. PPV's are not what drive the sport for real fans, every PPV has been a bust this year and there have been a bunch of good fights on ESPN(supposed to be the lowest of major tv outlets). In Europe there are fighters that do pretty great PPV #'s over there, they don't drive shit. They stopped selling some of the Klitschko PPV's in the US because there was no market. Floyd isn't what is keeping boxing interesting for most boxing fans, you're not a boxing fan. You are a self admitted Floyd fan, Floyd drives your love of Floyd. How do you not get we are comparing apples to bananas. Floyd gives you a raging banana, you cum on here to tell us how much you love Floyd. I like watch people fight and box, I come on here to talk about boxing and fights


Ok first of, to say I’M NOT A BOXING FAN is extremely vague. The term Boxing Fan is a very broad generalization.

One does not need to like ALL boxers or ALL fights just to be accepted as a boxing fan. Only one is enough.

Just like being a human, you don’t need to have all available breeds (white, black, Asian, Hispanic …) running through your blood veins for you to call yourself a Human Being. You can be a mixed-raced and be called a human, while you can also be purely only white or purely only black and also be called a human. There shouldn’t be racial prejudice.

Boxing fans are likewise categorized in many ways. There are those that are knowledgeable of ALL boxers and the entire sport, while others that are focused only on the fighters/fights that they like and both are considered Boxing Fans in their own rights.

What you are is a prime example of someone who is filled with discrimination, hatred, and prejudice. SHAME on YOU!!
Maxy
How can someone claim to be a boxing fan when they only like one boxer? Bloody hell, things are getting weirder round here!
EAlbian
QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 20 2011, 12:10 PM) *
Ok first of, to say I’M NOT A BOXING FAN is extremely vague. The term Boxing Fan is a very broad generalization.

One does not need to like ALL boxers or ALL fights just to be accepted as a boxing fan. Only one is enough.

Just like being a human, you don’t need to have all available breeds (white, black, Asian, Hispanic …) running through your blood veins for you to call yourself a Human Being. You can be a mixed-raced and be called a human, while you can also be purely only white or purely only black and also be called a human. There shouldn’t be racial prejudice.

Boxing fans are likewise categorized in many ways. There are those that are knowledgeable of ALL boxers and the entire sport, while others that are focused only on the fighters/fights that they like and both are considered Boxing Fans in their own rights.

What you are is a prime example of someone who is filled with discrimination, hatred, and prejudice. SHAME on YOU!!


no you're dumb. Boxing fans are fans of the sport of boxing. If you like a certain fighter you are a fan of that fighter. If someone says i like Micheal Jordan it means they like MJ not basketball. You don't have to be knowledgeable(however its usually preferred on forums) to be a fan of a sport, you can just watch it. I am a Sox fan, I watch the Sox however I'm not a baseball fan. I don't try and speak on the sport because I don't watch it enough to. You don't know/watch enough boxing to speak on it. You aren't a boxing fan. Join the FMJ fan club, you can crush on him there.
Cshel86
QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 20 2011, 11:52 AM) *
Floyd is what makes boxing alive today. You have to acknowledge that. You can go ahead and post your top 5 or your top 10 or your top 100 boxers but it doesn't make any difference since only Floyd has an UNDEFEATED record.

I've looked at your top 10 picks and you have a list of defeated guys. As I said you can post 10, 20, 100 or 1,000 guys but they all got defeats in their professional records. Tainted. Pathetic.

When someone asks me to give my Top 5 list, I don't need to mention 5 guys. Only ONE is enough. The UNDEFEATED one. The Greatest one.

I don't just follow any athlete. In other sports too, the ones that I follow are ones with exceptional records.

And whoever taught you to dislike guys is a moron. Your father is a guy. Your grandfather is a guy. Your brother (if you do have one) is a guy. Does that mean you DISLIKE them simply to not be branded gay by your peers?? C'mon man. You idiot. Have your own mind, don't follow the herd. I know what peers do at school and at work. If you are weak minded you'd succumb to them. Be smart. Be educated.



QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 20 2011, 01:10 PM) *
Ok first of, to say I’M NOT A BOXING FAN is extremely vague. The term Boxing Fan is a very broad generalization.

One does not need to like ALL boxers or ALL fights just to be accepted as a boxing fan. Only one is enough.

Just like being a human, you don’t need to have all available breeds (white, black, Asian, Hispanic …) running through your blood veins for you to call yourself a Human Being. You can be a mixed-raced and be called a human, while you can also be purely only white or purely only black and also be called a human. There shouldn’t be racial prejudice.

Boxing fans are likewise categorized in many ways. There are those that are knowledgeable of ALL boxers and the entire sport, while others that are focused only on the fighters/fights that they like and both are considered Boxing Fans in their own rights.

What you are is a prime example of someone who is filled with discrimination, hatred, and prejudice. SHAME on YOU!!


...and yet, you still find ways to continue to make an ass of yourself. I left this board for a couple of hours, just to come back to your nonsense. Is it finally sinking into that little brain of your's, that you're delusional? Floyd is a great fighter, but stop it, please... Sometimes you gotta just stop while you're ahead dude...
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (cshel86 @ Sep 20 2011, 06:20 PM) *
...and yet, you still find ways to continue to make an ass of yourself. I left this board for a couple of hours, just to come back to your nonsense. Is it finally sinking into that little brain of your's, that you're delusional? Floyd is a great fighter, but stop it, please... Sometimes you gotta just stop while you're ahead dude...


Honestly mate, I wouldnt waste my time entertaining him. He's probably the worst poster iv seen since I joined this board. He's an outright prick.
Cshel86
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Sep 20 2011, 02:24 PM) *
Honestly mate, I wouldnt waste my time entertaining him. He's probably the worst poster iv seen since I joined this board. He's an outright prick.


Im really gonna just leave it alone...no need for accumulating an unnecessary headache over some senseless hogwash by a Floydiot who takes no time at all to contribute anything useful to this board.
Fitz
I'm a big fan of Gamboa, but I am surprised people are rating him in the top 5 at this stage.

Pacquiao, Mayweather, Hopkins, Donaire, Martinez, Marquez and even Ward and possibly Froch have a better body of work so far to this point. Big fan of Gamboa, and one of the most exciting fighters for me at this stage, but I think he needs some bigger fights and don't see him as a top 5 fighter yet.
King Eugene
Floyd
Manny
Ward
Hopkins
Donaire
JONdaCON817
QUOTE (EAlbian @ Sep 20 2011, 10:25 AM) *
sounds pretty gay to me. so basically you don't like boxing(or other sports) you like guys?


ahhhhhhhhahahhaha!!!!
JONdaCON817
Buffalo Chiccen has to be a TROLL!!!
RyanTical
1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Floyd Mayweather
4. Floyd Mayweather
5. Floyd Mayweather
Cshel86
QUOTE (RyanTical @ Sep 20 2011, 08:29 PM) *
1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Floyd Mayweather
4. Floyd Mayweather
5. Floyd Mayweather


RyanTical
QUOTE (cshel86 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:37 PM) *


LOL! I was just trolling, bro'. Look at my TOP 10 Boxer list in my sig. Just take the first five and apply it to the P4P lists.
Cshel86
QUOTE (RyanTical @ Sep 20 2011, 08:38 PM) *
LOL! I was just trolling, bro'. Look at my TOP 10 Boxer list in my sig. Just take the first five and apply it to the P4P lists.

I was just fishing for a response, lol. I have to drink myself to a stupor to read Buffalo's posts though...
RyanTical
QUOTE (cshel86 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:41 PM) *
I was just fishing for a response, lol. I have to drink myself to a stupor to read Buffalo's posts though...


I may like Mayweather but I'm not an idiot. LOL.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (RyanTical @ Sep 21 2011, 12:38 PM) *
LOL! I was just trolling, bro'. Look at my TOP 10 Boxer list in my sig. Just take the first five and apply it to the P4P lists.



Cool you have a dead guy in your current Top 5.
RyanTical
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Sep 20 2011, 05:43 PM) *
Cool you have a dead guy in your current Top 5.


Well, it is my favorite Boxing list, and thanks for pointing it out.
Big Slim Sweet
QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 20 2011, 09:49 AM) *
1. Floyd
2. Doesn't matter who's second. It's ok if Pac is. But Floyd is still first.
3. <Insert name here>
4. ...
5. List complete.

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QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 20 2011, 10:04 AM) *
I follow boxing these days mainly of Floyd. And it's also Floyd that got me to Fighthype.com in the first place (I was searching for Floyd news and this site showed up).

I only usually like one athlete per sport that I follow. In boxing it's Floyd. And in other sports its some other guy.

So do people get harassed for that?? Well they better get their heads checked.


You are such a motherfucking faggot.

My list:

1) TIE: Pacquaio and Mayweather
2) ---
3) Sergio Marinez
4) Juan Manual Marquez
5) Bernard Hopkins
6) Nonito Donaire
riddick
My list:
1)Pacquaio
2)Mayweather
3) Donaire
4)Marinez
5)Ward
Eighty88Eight
who gives a shit? it's a shuffle card game outside of the top two guys in the world. and they're both number 1a and 1b until they fight each other.
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