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HazConvictedFelonMane
http://www.boxingscene.com/khan-mayweather...-ill-win--44037
http://www.boxingscene.com/khan-mayweather...e-ko-win--44054

This kid is doing a lot of talking. I understand the concept of building up a fight but I think this kid is starting to look, and sound desperate. Here's some articles from my other favorite boxing site.
lloyd mayflower
Speaking of doing a lot of talking, remember the time you issued an open challenge to a bare knuckle fight with anyone from fighthype at the May Ortiz presser in NY and then didnt show up?
King Eugene
I'm not going to click that link because that site has gave me a few viruses in the past but as far as Amir Khan goes....he's a damn good fighter. He's going after all the top guys and actually beating them if he gets them in the ring. So what he talks a lot of shit...at least he's attempting to back it up.
King Eugene
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Sep 22 2011, 01:10 AM) *
Speaking of doing a lot of talking, remember the time you issued an open challenge to a bare knuckle fight with anyone from fighthype at the May Ortiz presser in NY and then didnt show up?

LMAO...I swear I was just thinking about this.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
Plus he's promised to "take the tess!"

I'll repeat that,

He's gonna "TAKE THE TESS!!!"
Box in Hand
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Sep 22 2011, 12:10 AM) *
Speaking of doing a lot of talking, remember the time you issued an open challenge to a bare knuckle fight with anyone from fighthype at the May Ortiz presser in NY and then didnt show up?



Wow! LOL! Haz, you need to address this here piff ASAP. That's second time you got called out!
DavidA12
QUOTE (HazConvictedFelonMane @ Sep 22 2011, 05:58 AM) *
http://www.boxingscene.com/khan-mayweather...-ill-win--44037
http://www.boxingscene.com/khan-mayweather...e-ko-win--44054

This kid is doing a lot of talking. I understand the concept of building up a fight but I think this kid is starting to look, and sound desperate. Here's some articles from my other favorite boxing site.



Khan is doing a lot of talking but in no way do i think he's getting a head of himself. He's being realistic in saying he isnt ready for Mayweather yet but that he thinks he will be in 2-3 fights time. For me thats bang on. Khan is improving every single fight and looks like he's just one big fight away from making that step up to the elite and stardom. For me Khan is the best prospect boxing has at the minute the man has everything, electirc hands, power in both, good footwork and a good chin (yes you read that right a good chin). I can see him cleaning out the 140, moving up to 147 for Mayweather and catching him at the end of his career and then again moving up to 154, he's big enough and has a long enough reach to do well in the 154 division.
chicagogato
QUOTE (DavidA12 @ Sep 22 2011, 02:38 PM) *
Khan is doing a lot of talking but in no way do i think he's getting a head of himself. He's being realistic in saying he isnt ready for Mayweather yet but that he thinks he will be in 2-3 fights time. For me thats bang on. Khan is improving every single fight and looks like he's just one big fight away from making that step up to the elite and stardom. For me Khan is the best prospect boxing has at the minute the man has everything, electirc hands, power in both, good footwork and a good chin (yes you read that right a good chin). I can see him cleaning out the 140, moving up to 147 for Mayweather and catching him at the end of his career and then again moving up to 154, he's big enough and has a long enough reach to do well in the 154 division.

If he's not ready and he knows he's not ready he ought to shut up about it!
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (chicagogato @ Sep 23 2011, 12:18 AM) *
If he's not ready and he knows he's not ready he ought to shut up about it!


Why? This business is all about self promotion. Mayweather is a perfect example. He targeted De la Fishnets about 2 years before he actually fought him. In fact he made it very clear that the Judah fight was all about testing himself in the higher weights with the ultimate goal to meet Oscar.

There is nothing wrong with laying out your blueprint for the world to see. It takes some moxy but good for Khan.
HazConvictedFelonMane
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Sep 22 2011, 01:10 AM) *
Speaking of doing a lot of talking, remember the time you issued an open challenge to a bare knuckle fight with anyone from fighthype at the May Ortiz presser in NY and then didnt show up?


Ok, and? Your particulars say you're from Scotland so I'm pretty sure you didn't show up either. I got caught up with pressing business. I do have a life. I'm still running around NYC so we can set something up if you're looking to accept that challenge.
HazConvictedFelonMane
QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Sep 22 2011, 01:56 AM) *
Wow! LOL! Haz, you need to address this here piff ASAP. That's second time you got called out!


I see that. We can handle that at any given time.
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (HazConvictedFelonMane @ Sep 22 2011, 01:22 PM) *
Ok, and? Your particulars say you're from Scotland so I'm pretty sure you didn't show up either. I got caught up with pressing business. I do have a life. I'm still running around NYC so we can set something up if you're looking to accept that challenge.


Haha I never said I'd be there! You not only called out everyone on a website, but claimed, in CAPITAL LETTERS no less, that you WOULD be there. Then you werent there. Are you now calling me across the Atlantic to have a bare knuckle boxing match with you again? Cos I have to tell you, it costs a bit of scratch to hop that pond. I'd have a hard time doing for it for a no show.

You'd prob demand that I take the TESS anyway.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Sep 23 2011, 01:42 AM) *
Haha I never said I'd be there! You not only called out everyone on a website, but claimed, in CAPITAL LETTERS no less, that you WOULD be there. Then you werent there. Are you now calling me across the Atlantic to have a bare knuckle boxing match with you again? Cos I have to tell you, it costs a bit of scratch to hop that pond. I'd have a hard time doing for it for a no show.

You'd prob demand that I take the TESS anyway.


Take the TESS!

Take the fucken TESS!!!
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (HazConvictedFelonMane @ Sep 23 2011, 01:22 AM) *
Ok, and? Your particulars say you're from Scotland so I'm pretty sure you didn't show up either. I got caught up with pressing business. I do have a life. I'm still running around NYC so we can set something up if you're looking to accept that challenge.



Yeah like probably getting caught by the cops again. I bet you are one fucken useless criminal.
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Sep 22 2011, 01:47 PM) *
Yeah like probably getting caught by the cops again. I bet you are one fucken useless criminal.


He wont even tell us what he was convicted for, I mean, why would you call yourself convictedfelon unless you want people to ask?

Theres a word for people like that
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Sep 23 2011, 01:56 AM) *
He wont even tell us what he was convicted for, I mean, why would you call yourself convictedfelon unless you want people to ask?

Theres a word for people like that


A really good criminal never gets caught and certainly doesn't own up to it.
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Sep 22 2011, 02:25 PM) *
A really good criminal never gets caught and certainly doesn't own up to it.


As far as being a criminal goes, Haz is as much use as tits on a fish.

He probably got done for J-walking when Rudy Giuliani decided to come down on those crackheads that wash windscreens when the lights are red.
wolterb
just read that khan is plannin on fightin lamont and then mayweather.
mayweather fight is a pipe dream for him i'm sure...he was talkin like it was set in stone but i doubt it highly.

and to stay on topic...i think khan has more bite than people would like to admit, myself included. he seems disciplined, not over confident, never really loses form in the ring. seems like he can commit to game plans.

only thing the maidana clarified bout khan is that he has the heart to go the distance with somebody who is puttin the pressure on and hittin hard. still don't we've seen him goin at it with somebody who has some serious skills to nullify his offense
HazConvictedFelonMane
We couldn't be going any further outside of the subject.
HazConvictedFelonMane
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Sep 22 2011, 09:42 AM) *
Haha I never said I'd be there! You not only called out everyone on a website, but claimed, in CAPITAL LETTERS no less, that you WOULD be there. Then you werent there. Are you now calling me across the Atlantic to have a bare knuckle boxing match with you again? Cos I have to tell you, it costs a bit of scratch to hop that pond. I'd have a hard time doing for it for a no show.

You'd prob demand that I take the TESS anyway.


So what the fuck are you even talking about then??? You're not even from America homeboy. I think you're a Haz Mane Stan Boy. I'm going to open up a blog site just for you guys to come and share your ignorant hatred. I think i'm going to call it Collision Boxing.Com
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (HazConvictedFelonMane @ Sep 22 2011, 04:47 PM) *
So what the fuck are you even talking about then??? You're not even from America homeboy. I think you're a Haz Mane Stan Boy. I'm going to open up a blog site just for you guys to come and share your ignorant hatred. I think i'm going to call it Collision Boxing.Com


And I think the lord for that, but I dont understand what that has to do with anything
Cshel86
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Sep 22 2011, 01:10 AM) *
Speaking of doing a lot of talking, remember the time you issued an open challenge to a bare knuckle fight with anyone from fighthype at the May Ortiz presser in NY and then didnt show up?

Lmao! Here we go again! laugh.gif
Cshel86
QUOTE (DavidA12 @ Sep 22 2011, 03:38 AM) *
Khan is doing a lot of talking but in no way do i think he's getting a head of himself. He's being realistic in saying he isnt ready for Mayweather yet but that he thinks he will be in 2-3 fights time. For me thats bang on. Khan is improving every single fight and looks like he's just one big fight away from making that step up to the elite and stardom. For me Khan is the best prospect boxing has at the minute the man has everything, electirc hands, power in both, good footwork and a good chin (yes you read that right a good chin). I can see him cleaning out the 140, moving up to 147 for Mayweather and catching him at the end of his career and then again moving up to 154, he's big enough and has a long enough reach to do well in the 154 division.


Self-promotion is something that Bradley and few other fighters need to learn. By simply stating, "this guy's scared, blah blah blah"...doesn't work nowadays. Khan is preparing himself for a showdown, though it may be a pipe dream. As far as him moving up to 154, it may be a bad idea. Corrales was tall for his weight, but the more he moved up in wieght, the worse he performed. So Khan, may want to hold off on that and hang in there at WW.


QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Sep 22 2011, 08:23 AM) *
Why? This business is all about self promotion. Mayweather is a perfect example. He targeted De la Fishnets about 2 years before he actually fought him. In fact he made it very clear that the Judah fight was all about testing himself in the higher weights with the ultimate goal to meet Oscar.

There is nothing wrong with laying out your blueprint for the world to see. It takes some moxy but good for Khan.


Mayweather did exactly what he had to do to get that big fight, and he performed well enough to deserve it.

STEVENSKI
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Sep 22 2011, 11:56 PM) *
He wont even tell us what he was convicted for, I mean, why would you call yourself convictedfelon unless you want people to ask?

Theres a word for people like that



He just wants to be like Mayweather who will soon be a convicted felon if there is any justice in the world just like his daddy.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (cshel86 @ Sep 23 2011, 05:51 AM) *
Self-promotion is something that Bradley and few other fighters need to learn. By simply stating, "this guy's scared, blah blah blah"...doesn't work nowadays. Khan is preparing himself for a showdown, though it may be a pipe dream. As far as him moving up to 154, it may be a bad idea. Corrales was tall for his weight, but the more he moved up in wieght, the worse he performed. So Khan, may want to hold off on that and hang in there at WW.




Mayweather did exactly what he had to do to get that big fight, and he performed well enough to deserve it.


Which is my point, Khan is beating everyone they are putting in front of him, as made (I think) an honest attempt to get Tim Bradley in the ring and is now trying to position him for the biggest payday you can get in boxing. I don't see what he is doing wrong.
Cshel86
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Sep 22 2011, 07:39 PM) *
Which is my point, Khan is beating everyone they are putting in front of him, as made (I think) an honest attempt to get Tim Bradley in the ring and is now trying to position him for the biggest payday you can get in boxing. I don't see what he is doing wrong.

I agree, Khan is making it happen for himself. Bradley is doing nothing but screwing himself, by sitting out and hoping to cash in.
BoxingEinstein
QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Sep 22 2011, 01:10 AM) *
Speaking of doing a lot of talking, remember the time you issued an open challenge to a bare knuckle fight with anyone from fighthype at the May Ortiz presser in NY and then didnt show up?

I'm new on here as far as posting and having an account but I remember reading that and thought "Convicted Felon? Bareknuckle fight at public place?? IDIOT!!!!" LOL
checkleft
Khans chin is still not very good, its mostly his fault tho his defense is still bad. Not very much head movement he can't fight going backwards which is a problem because he finds himself on his bike when pressured and when he's back peddling he holds his chin out and leans back rather then moving his head or having his hands up. But he has the most upside I think other than Donair out of all the up and coming stars in the sport.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Sep 23 2011, 03:54 PM) *
I'm new on here as far as posting and having an account but I remember reading that and thought "Convicted Felon? Bareknuckle fight at public place?? IDIOT!!!!" LOL



Have not seen your other 2 posts but the above one has been a greater contribution to this board than Hazsuckeddickbehindbars made in 170 odd posts.
chicagogato
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Sep 22 2011, 07:23 PM) *
Why? This business is all about self promotion. Mayweather is a perfect example. He targeted De la Fishnets about 2 years before he actually fought him. In fact he made it very clear that the Judah fight was all about testing himself in the higher weights with the ultimate goal to meet Oscar.

There is nothing wrong with laying out your blueprint for the world to see. It takes some moxy but good for Khan.


We know Mayweather. He's an excellent boxer, 42 & 0, Never been knocked out. Khan is no Mayweather.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (chicagogato @ Sep 23 2011, 07:33 PM) *
We know Mayweather. He's an excellent boxer, 42 & 0, Never been knocked out. Khan is no Mayweather.


Yep Khan has had one KO loss. But then a first ballot hall of famer like Hopkins lost his first professional bout. Your point is?
lloyd mayflower
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Sep 23 2011, 11:44 AM) *
Yep Khan has had one KO loss. But then a first ballot hall of famer like Hopkins lost his first professional bout. Your point is?


Come on Ollie get with the program, thats how we credit Floyd with a HOF resume. We credit him with wins against fighters he hasnt fought.

QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Sep 22 2011, 11:34 PM) *
He just wants to be like Mayweather who will soon be a convicted felon if there is any justice in the world just like his daddy.


Wouldnt it be sweet if he did get convicted of something, then the little gobshite could stop touting himself for a fight at Wembley cos we wouldnt let him in.
Maxy
Not a fan of Khan, never have been, never will be, but credit where it's due, he is doing all the right things, staying busy taking the fights that make the most sense. Can't knock the fella at all for that.

People hating on him for Mayweather reasons should hang themselves.
streetlion1
Still have to see more from Khan before I can say how good he is. Wanna see him fight Bradley or if not how about Khan vs Ortiz? I would pick Ortiz by K.O.
Cshel86
QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Sep 23 2011, 02:50 AM) *
Have not seen your other 2 posts but the above one has been a greater contribution to this board than Hazsuckeddickbehindbars made in 170 odd posts.


Hahahaha!!! Good ol' Stevenski! I had to tell Lloyd in another thread to be careful with Haz, I heard those internet warriors dont play! laugh.gif
ks1
I'd say Khan is more bark than bite but, I don't blame him. He's barking to get paid.
Method
Yup. Gotta start somewhere/somehow.
BoxingEinstein
I think Amir Khan has demonstrated improvement as a fighter, obviously he still has some flaws in his game but anyone or everyone can still have room for improvement. His fight with Maidana is an instant classic and he stopped a revitalized, focused Zab Judah.

Khan's speed, height and range plus he has pop in his punches makes him a dangerous fighter, I can only think moving up in weight will make him stronger since he won't have to bear down on weight. In his last fight he showed slight improvement in his inside game and his jab is getting better. To me, Khan is "THE" man at 140 since Bradley is inactive and since he's won all his fights at 140 ever since his embarrassing KO loss to Breidis Prescott.

I think Khan should rematch Prescott who was robbed against Mcloskey and then take on Morales before he moves up to welterweight. His first fight at welter should be either Berto or Ortiz to see if he can handle a welter's power. Then he could face Mayweather at the end of 2012 or early 2013 which I see Mayweather winning either by TKO or KO in the middle rounds.

I think Khan will give Mayweather significant trouble in the first 4 rounds with his speed,reach and height but as usual after round 4 Mayweather will adjust and put on a clinic from there. It is a fight I surely would watch and think by then it would be great. Khan has the charisma, confidence, looks and skills to make it interesting.
PR316
QUOTE (Maxy @ Sep 23 2011, 08:24 AM) *
Not a fan of Khan, never have been, never will be, but credit where it's due, he is doing all the right things, staying busy taking the fights that make the most sense. Can't knock the fella at all for that.

People hating on him for Mayweather reasons should hang themselves.


Good point, Maxy. Me personally, I think Khan is overrated and very flawed. I think when he faces a truly skilled fighter, he won't be able to succeed.

But he does deserve credit for wanting to fight Mayweather. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.


QUOTE (streetlion1 @ Sep 23 2011, 10:14 AM) *
Still have to see more from Khan before I can say how good he is. Wanna see him fight Bradley or if not how about Khan vs Ortiz? I would pick Ortiz by K.O.


At 147, I think he loses to Ortiz via KO because quite simply I don't see him having the chin to take the punches nor the defense to avoid them.

At 140 vs Bradley is a picke em. Timmy is very flawed too and far from a complete fighter and he has no power. Not to mention the size disadvantage he'd have vs Khan.

Against either of Mayweather or Pacquiao I don't think he stands much of a chance.
Seek
Khan's a good fighter. He'll beat Bradley and Ortiz IMHO. Berto might have a chance but lately he feels like slugging it out rather than boxing. He'll take an L vs Khan doing that.

IMO Khan has a better chance than Ortiz and Pacquiao vs Mayweather. Khan would start very strong but end up losing a decision.
PR316
^^Nahh. Pacquiao has a MUCH BETTER shot at Mayweather than Khan. Amir goes in straight lines and has no defense at all. Pac may not be Pernell Whitaker, but he uses angles, feints, and upper body movement to throw off his opponents.


I don't see how anyone could pick Khan over Ortiz with any type of certainty. Amir isn't the most intelligent guy in the ring and his punch resistance is very questionable, along with his defense, or lack there of. And though he's a good puncher, for the most part he doesn't commit to his shots because he's worried about the incoming.


A Khan-Ortiz fight could go either way and I think Ortiz has a good chance of KOing him.
duwdu
In response to the original poser, no, Khan can't match his bark with his bite just yet; at 147, I believe Mike Jones will beat him. Those Khan legs just look as unsteady as mosquito legs to me, and will be even more so north of 140.

P34c3
CrazyBuffalO
Khan is overrated. Way overrated.

His wins were all mediocre. I mean I seriously don't even have any idea how he got much talked about.
Cshel86
Just watched Khan vs Judah a few minutes ago, smh. Freakin' Zab Judah man, smh. He talked us all into watching that fight, and he barely lifted a finger during those 5 rounds. no2.gif
duwdu
QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Sep 25 2011, 10:12 AM) *
Khan is overrated. Way overrated.

His wins were all mediocre. I mean I seriously don't even have any idea how he got much talked about.

He gets talked about so much because he talks about himself and tweets so much, sometimes with reckless abandon. Also, it's my take that he is talked about so much because, along with Froch, he is the most visible British boxer on the world stage right now, so more British writers and commentators tend to mention/focus on him. But then, it is the era of self promotion. He has obviously learnt one or two things about self promotion from Mayweather.

P34c3
brisgreat2007
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Sep 23 2011, 07:44 AM) *
Yep Khan has had one KO loss. But then a first ballot hall of famer like Hopkins lost his first professional bout. Your point is?


Bhop began boxing in his late teens and early twenties. His early losses were literally the beginning of his career. Khan does NOT have power in both of his hands, he DOES have fast hands, he is an above average boxer, but like Manny he relies solely on his offensive abilities. A young JMM or Morales would rip Khan apart. Any decent counter puncher dominates Khan.

That's the difference between boxers and elite boxers. JMM, Morales and FMJ are all elite boxers, and I don't suspect any of them for using PED's. I can't say the same for anyone who trains with Freddie Roach or Alex Ariza.
brisgreat2007
QUOTE (PR316 @ Sep 23 2011, 04:47 PM) *
^^Nahh. Pacquiao has a MUCH BETTER shot at Mayweather than Khan. Amir goes in straight lines and has no defense at all. Pac may not be Pernell Whitaker, but he uses angles, feints, and upper body movement to throw off his opponents.


I don't see how anyone could pick Khan over Ortiz with any type of certainty. Amir isn't the most intelligent guy in the ring and his punch resistance is very questionable, along with his defense, or lack there of. And though he's a good puncher, for the most part he doesn't commit to his shots because he's worried about the incoming.


A Khan-Ortiz fight could go either way and I think Ortiz has a good chance of KOing him.


A motivated Ortiz should beat Khan. Note the word 'motivated' because Ortiz seems to lack that in the big fights.
Cshel86
QUOTE (duwdu @ Sep 25 2011, 04:34 PM) *
He gets talked about so much because he talks about himself and tweets so much, sometimes with reckless abandon. Also, it's my take that he is talked about so much because, along with Froch, he is the most visible British boxer on the world stage right now, so more British writers and commentators tend to mention/focus on him. But then, it is the era of self promotion. He has obviously learnt one or two things about self promotion from Mayweather.

P34c3


I definitely agree this portion of your post...self-promotion is the way to go nowadays. A fighter cant solely depend on their promoter, especially if they (the fighter) have envisioned themselves becoming a professional boxer/superstar one day, then you would figure they had some type of ring gimmick together. Just my thoughts...

QUOTE (brisgreat2007 @ Sep 25 2011, 09:25 PM) *
Bhop began boxing in his late teens and early twenties. His early losses were literally the beginning of his career. Khan does NOT have power in both of his hands, he DOES have fast hands, he is an above average boxer, but like Manny he relies solely on his offensive abilities. A young JMM or Morales would rip Khan apart. Any decent counter puncher dominates Khan.

That's the difference between boxers and elite boxers. JMM, Morales and FMJ are all elite boxers, and I don't suspect any of them for using PED's. I can't say the same for anyone who trains with Freddie Roach or Alex Ariza.


Khan does heavily rely on his offense, but he also uses his legs a lot to circle and avoid being hit (along with head movement). A young JMM would've been able to take those shots to get inside, because his height and reach (somewhat) would put him at a disadvantage against Khan. If it came down to an all-out slug-out, then I would give it to JMM, because Khan would probably be surprised by JMM's ring intelligence and willingness to brawl. A young Morales would give Khan a hard time, because Khan has a slight height advantage over JMM and he is "more Mexican" than JMM when it comes to somewhat abandoning his technique and engaging in an all-out brawl. JMM always keeps his composure when brawling, but Morales digs deep and goes for broke.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (brisgreat2007 @ Sep 26 2011, 02:27 PM) *
A motivated Ortiz should beat Khan. Note the word 'motivated' because Ortiz seems to lack that in the big fights.


Coulda, woulda, shoulda. ..................
Cshel86
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Sep 26 2011, 06:08 AM) *
Coulda, woulda, shoulda. ..................

...but he caint (can't), so he aint! Hahahaha!!!
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