QUOTE (alaganza @ Sep 27 2011, 11:05 PM)
I believe it to be very presumptious to consider one a Mayweather fan because they disagree. IF I am one of the guys targeted by your post, I will assure you I am not, nor will I ever be a Mayweather fan.
I just don't agree that Mayweather should shoulder the majority of the blame
If I was not the one of the targets of your post then I digress.
By the way, you are spot on with Mayweather glancing at Cortez before throwing the sucker punch. It was indeed blatant.
No, no....you were not a person I was responding to. There are a few newer posters that I was addressing and did not feel like going back and quoting all of them so I just responded with a general answer to those folks.
HOWEVER...stick around as you mentioned a very important aspect in your last response.
And it's not so much presumptious as it is logical...
AND YES.....once again I would have to assume ANYBODY that does NOT see May looking at Cortez before the sucker punch is either clouded by fandom or legally blind.....so which is it Duwdu?
QUOTE (duwdu @ Sep 28 2011, 06:58 AM)
I honestly think you're reading too much into the ending to justify your anger, more so as you have yourself admitted that your having paid to see the fight made it more so. At this point, there's not much more to argue about seeing that you won't be changing your mind soon about what you're feeling. After all, some even compounded their blame game because they failed to even hear the "Let's go" by Cortez. I guess what I'm saying is that, to each his own.
I do find it cheap though that once you're in disagreement with a fellow poster, the other side automatically becomes a fan of the fighter they are defending against your argument. That's like trying to tie a fellow debater's hands.
First of all....I think things that are typed lose a lot in translation....I am in no way "Angry"....it's just a boxing match....dissapointed would be a better call.
I did/do feel cheated as a paying fan...not so much to be frothing at the mouth though.
As for the second part of your post...it's as I said above....it's simply logical to assume that people that do not assign not one single ounce of blame toward Floyd must be blinded by fandom. Even Alaganza above...who does not agree with me on the LEVEL of blame appears to at the very least assign some to him. IMHO anybody without any bias for Floyd as a fan would have to assign him some level of blame....to me it's pretty black and white.
So if you are not a fan....I apologize for labeling you as such....but it's the only thing that makes sense in relation to what took place.
For example....I am/was a HUGE Lennox Lewis fan...but I'm big enough to own up to the FACT that he held Micheal Grant's head to an obscene degree in their title fight....Although it's considered a great win for LL...his blatent holding of Grant's head has always bugged me....so if a person asks me did he get that win clean....I have reservations despite the percieved dominant performance.....
This situation is simular because....IMHO...anybody that watched that fight and looks at it for what it was...CANNOT...HONESTLY give a 100% pass to Floyd for the less than steller ending of the fight.
Blaming Cortiz's lack of this or that....Ortiz's lack of this or that.....does not change the fact that the fight was ended on a right hand that could or could not have been thrown. It's not like this was middle of the action type stuff here.
He chose to end the fight on a legal sucker punch, which for me as a hard core fan is unbecoming of a figure head of the sport, umbecoming of a champion and unbecoming of a self proclaimed best ever.....if people want to defend that...as you say....to each his own.