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lloyd mayflower
Floyd, get your business in order
nyjyant1
QUOTE (Xception2ThRule @ Oct 8 2011, 09:26 PM) *


juu crazy bro, the fight did 1.3 milly, holla back
leonthegee
It doesnt say where the numbers came from. Ive never even heard of this Steve Kim dude and the writer doesnt even list his credituals. I doubt he has the contacts to break a story like that. Im not buying it. HBO will realise the offical numbers. They always do.
Cshel86
It's sad that the topic of the thread has a question mark at the end no2.gif Where's your proof besides this article link that has just as much a clue as you...which is none at all. I'll wait...
Deevel79
QUOTE (cshel86 @ Oct 8 2011, 09:47 PM) *
It's sad that the topic of the thread has a question mark at the end no2.gif Where's your proof besides this article link that has just as much a clue as you...which is none at all. I'll wait...



Yet this site can irresponsibly report that the fight did 1.3mil buys without proof and you dont question it? LOL.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Deevel79 @ Oct 8 2011, 10:04 PM) *
Yet this site can irresponsibly report that the fight did 1.3mil buys without proof and you dont question it? LOL.

Shoulda known this thread was gonna help you kick off your bullshit. Care to continue your futile conquest of PPV numbers? Glad you could join us though, lol.
JONdaCON817
850K is BS. No way they did that low.
Method
Stopped reading when I heard "...never even heard of this steve kim dude"...NOT because Steve is the be all end all, though I trust him, but because any hard core fan knows pretty much ALL of the players in the sport.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Method @ Oct 9 2011, 03:45 PM) *
Stopped reading when I heard "...never even heard of this steve kim dude"...NOT because Steve is the be all end all, though I trust him, but because any hard core fan knows pretty much ALL of the players in the sport.


It's defiantly an interesting call that someone like Steve Kim would put his name to that kind of figure. not saying he's right (or wrong) just interesting.
Allmenjoi8
To quote Donald Rumsfeld: There are knowns that are known and there are knowns that are unknown

That quote makes more sense than that "article." If you are going to post something as blatantly bias as that crap of an article at least get it from a creditable source. You shit on fighthype that gets its info from the horses mouth but credit this guy that no one has heard of, not even Method aka All Knowing, knows everything and everyone has heard of this guy. SO if no one on this site has never heard of the guy this topic really does not have a leg to stand on. Try again. By the way, can you find an article that gives the official count of the Pac and Mosely fight?
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Oct 9 2011, 04:39 PM) *
To quote Donald Rumsfeld: There are knowns that are known and there are knowns that are unknown

That quote makes more sense than that "article." If you are going to post something as blatantly bias as that crap of an article at least get it from a creditable source. You shit on fighthype that gets its info from the horses mouth but credit this guy that no one has heard of, not even Method aka All Knowing, knows everything and everyone has heard of this guy. SO if no one on this site has never heard of the guy this topic really does not have a leg to stand on. Try again. By the way, can you find an article that gives the official count of the Pac and Mosely fight?



He actually sights Steve Kim and he is known.
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Oct 8 2011, 10:40 PM) *
He actually sights Steve Kim and he is known.


By who? the last couple of people who posted on this topic said they never heard of him. Just saying.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Oct 9 2011, 04:42 PM) *
By who? the last couple of people who posted on this topic said they never heard of him. Just saying.


Are you seriously trying to tell me you don't know who Steve Kim is? Seriously? Ahmm I'm pretty sure Method knows who Steve Fucken Kim is. I'd stake my life on it.

(I sense we are about to go down a familiar rabbit hole.)
PalookaJoe
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Oct 8 2011, 11:45 PM) *
Are you seriously trying to tell me you don't know who Steve Kim is? Seriously? Ahmm I'm pretty sure Method knows who Steve Fucken Kim is. I'd stake my life on it.

(I sense we are about to go down a familiar rabbit hole.)

That's what I'm saying. I don't claim to be the most knowledgeable of boxing fans but I know who Steve Kim is. lol

Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (leonthegee @ Oct 8 2011, 09:46 PM) *
It doesnt say where the numbers came from. Ive never even heard of this Steve Kim dude and the writer doesnt even list his credituals. I doubt he has the contacts to break a story like that. Im not buying it. HBO will realise the offical numbers. They always do.


It's so easy to figure out the true boxing fans who actually follow the sport. laugh.gif
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Fitz @ Oct 9 2011, 04:52 PM) *


Nah you know she's gonna pull her usual and split from this thread.
Snoop
Steve Kim from Maxboxing? He's frequently mentioned as one of the press row scorers in major bouts.

I also think people are misreading Meth's post.
Method
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Oct 8 2011, 11:45 PM) *
Are you seriously trying to tell me you don't know who Steve Kim is? Seriously? Ahmm I'm pretty sure Method knows who Steve Fuckein Kim is. I'd stake my life on it.

(I sense we are about to go down a familiar rabbit hole.)


Ummmm. Yeah. He covers boxing full time, writes about it a few times a week, and I've actually threw a few drinks back w him on more than one occasion...and all we did was talk boxing.

Again, the sport doesn't stop/start w him, but he's dialed in, and if he's hearing things, I give weight to them (thought I always tend to do my own due diligence).
Method
QUOTE (Snoop @ Oct 9 2011, 12:18 AM) *
I also think people are misreading Meth's post.

Yeah. In which way. Im just saying, Steve is who he is, but he's dialed in. I dont know anything about what he said about figures. What I do know is he talks to sort of everyone, and is somewhat dialed in. Dont mean he's the axe for the sport, but if someone comes in here and says "never heard of this steve kim guy", then you are suspect, at best.
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Snoop @ Oct 9 2011, 05:18 PM) *
Steve Kim from Maxboxing? He's frequently mentioned as one of the press row scorers in major bouts.

I also think people are misreading Meth's post.


The only people who could misread Meth's post are the stupendously stupid.

It surprises me not that the 2 people who claim not to know who Steve Kim is are AllMAN and LeontheGee.

Right now allMAN has probably Googled 'Steve Kim' and gone......gulp.

As to whether he is right or wrong is irrelevant, how can you claim to follow the sport of boxing in any capacity and not know who that dude is?
Cshel86
QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Oct 8 2011, 11:45 PM) *
(I sense we are about to go down a familiar rabbit hole.)

Not tonight! I've left this thread for a couple of hours and the past events occurred:

My "lady of the night" cancelled on me

My battery died in my car after I spent 20 minutes in line at Wal Mart to pick up a pack of ground beef for tacos

I had to change my battery by myself because I forgot my AAA card and there were too many weirdos in one dark parking lot on a Sat. night to ask for a "jump"

They almost didn't let me through the double-doors at the package store because they were trying to close...had to get that 12-pack for the football games tomorrow

I get home to realize that I haven't cleaned up anything today, though I've been running in circles cleaning...besides, my "entertainment" called out on me, so I guess it doesn't matter, huh?

Oh yeah. I forgot to mention that I had to walk into my house, only to be greeted by the smell of some nice hot dog shit festering...and I had to trace the smell all around the house, just to find it in my jacuzzi tub that JUST cleaned this morning. Boy my dog is a smart one, isn't she?

THEN...I came back to this thread to see twice the BS that I saw before I logged out. No true evidence of PPV numbers, a bunch of opinions, a bunch of emotions (which Im very tired of), the "PPV #s tracker/troll" is still in an extreme state of idiocy, and wait...where are the ACTUAL PPV #s??? Oh yeah, thats right...we STILL dont know! Just be patient and wait until they surface no2.gif

Sound like news to you? More than likely, no...

If you truly follow the sport, then you SHOULD know (or have heard of) Steve Kim at least once. If you're a true fan, but haven't heard of him, then please find your nearest bumper cart track, tie your blindfold tight, and get ready for a bunch of children hyped up on sugar to have their way with all angles of your bumper car.

At this point, I guess I will go and enjoy my tacos with "no salsa" (in which I just discovered) and enjoy this Bacardi that I almost lost an arm for, by way of the unforgiving swinging double doors and a pissed off cashier at the package store, and I'll hear from you guys later. Oh yeah, I wont be hearing from you guys in this thread...because of course, as you know, it's CLOSED!



Thanks
thehype
QUOTE (Deevel79 @ Oct 8 2011, 10:04 PM) *
Yet this site can irresponsibly report that the fight did 1.3mil buys without proof and you dont question it? LOL.


Boy, I LOVE all the attention that little ol' me seems to be getting as of late. LOL.

Funny how Kevin Iole can report 1.3-1.4 million, and even just Friday, Dan Rafael can say the following during his weekly chat:

QUOTE
Isai (OKC): Heard this morning that PPV buys for Mayweather could be as low as 850k. How possible is the statement?

Dan Rafael (12:59 PM): From what I have been told by Schaefer and HBO that is preposterous. Much higher.


But when Ben Thompson reports what he's been told, that seems to really get people worked up.

laugh.gif

I love it.

Just for the record, I've never heard of that site that wrote the story quoting Steve Kim's Twitter page, but I do know who Steve Kim is...I mean, after all, the motherfucker is so dialed in that he even calls me for info.

laugh.gif
jlupi
wide reports that the initial # of 1.3 was wildly inflated. 850 is respectable but not if you say it did nearly double that.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2011/10/maywea...50000-ppv-buys/
Cshel86


Now if only we could get some of our members to skim through the forum pages before they decide to create threads like this, then we will be okay. While you're all here, check this out...

http://www.fighthype.com/community/index.php?showtopic=27778
jlupi
I skimmed. guess not good enough.
leonthegee
"Here we go again." DMX
Cshel86
Since we are repeating recent history...anybody know who Steve Kim is?

Cshel86
Damn...no answers??? Still waiting...





leonthegee
QUOTE (cshel86 @ Oct 13 2011, 07:31 AM) *
Since we are repeating recent history...anybody know who Steve Kim is?



just what I read about him on boxingsocialist.com
Cshel86
Okay Leonthegee, I will take that answer in the meantime. It was better than your answer last time this thread was open..."Ive never even heard of this Steve Kim dude and the writer doesnt even list his credituals."



Cshel86
QUOTE (leonthegee @ Oct 8 2011, 09:46 PM) *
It doesnt say where the numbers came from. Ive never even heard of this Steve Kim dude and the writer doesnt even list his credituals. I doubt he has the contacts to break a story like that. Im not buying it. HBO will realise the offical numbers. They always do.

I guess nobody knows the real PPV numbers, huh?



FAIL!!!
Cshel86
Okay, well since there's not much going on in this thread, I actually feel bad about closing it...

Well on the other hand...I actually DONT!!! Hahahahaha!!!...




See ya later folks...

Spyder
Why does any thread that mentions the possibility of Mayweather-Ortiz pulling in less than a million PPV buys get closed?

http://www.fighthype.com/community/index.php?showtopic=27778

http://www.fighthype.com/community/index.php?showtopic=27796

Big Slim Sweet
It's just not cool to start a thread that's in any way anti-Mayweather. You can talk about him inside a thread but that's it. It's like a conspiracy theory, but it's not, cause something's clearly up. Reporting PPV numbers by itself is certainly not trolling.

I guess in this case Hype disputes the reports indicating the fight did under a million, and stands by his previous info. He also doesn't seem to like other reporters getting credit on his message board. Hence, responding to Fitz the other day about the link to a Tavoris Cloud interview, and the way he dismissed Steve Kim's "credituals" in the first closed thread.

I expect this thread to be closed soon as well, with a stern message as an epitaph.

dntknw.gif

thehype
QUOTE (Big Slim Sweet @ Oct 13 2011, 02:41 PM) *
It's just not cool to start a thread that's in any way anti-Mayweather. You can talk about him inside a thread but that's it. It's like a conspiracy theory, but it's not, cause something's clearly up. Reporting PPV numbers by itself is certainly not trolling.

I guess in this case Hype disputes the reports indicating the fight did under a million, and stands by his previous info. He also doesn't seem to like other reporters getting credit on his message board. Hence, responding to Fitz the other day about the link to a Tavoris Cloud interview, and the way he dismissed Steve Kim's "credituals" in the first closed thread.

I expect this thread to be closed soon as well, with a stern message as an epitaph.

dntknw.gif


I didn't close the thread, so no clue as to what the fuck you're talking about. I could care less about "anti-Mayweather" threads. There's been plenty here before that have never been closed.

As for the PPV numbers, Kevin Iole reported 1.3-1.7, we reported 1.3, and just last Friday, Dan Rafael says Schaefer and HBO told him well over 1 million, so like I said, this mystery 850,000 number doesn't really matter to me. And I didn't "dismiss" Steve Kim's credentials...so please don't put words on my fingers...I agreed with the fact that he's dialed in, which is one of the reasons why he even calls me when he's snoopin for info.

As for other reporters getting credit, I could care less about that shit too...if I did care, I'd put a fucking word filter on other websites and prevent people from linking to them...kind of like other websites do for us. My response to Fitz was ONLY because I don't feel as though WE get enough credit on our own motherfuckin' message board!

I tell you what though....I am starting to reconsider someone else's opinion about message boards and am really wondering if it's worth the fucking headache of keeping one around for motherfuckers who only seem to bitch all the time.

And just for the record, I reopened the fuckin thread since, like I said, I'm not even sure why it was closed in the first place because there ain't no motherfuckin conspiracy.
Cshel86
caneman
I will say this, while $1.3 million sounds fine....I always wondered about the PPV's that you never hear the final #'s on! I would think those are the ones that done less than expected like maybe Pac/Mosley for example, they may never give the final #'s! The fact is no matter if it's this site or another, they can report what they are told. The way the economy is these days, honestly 850k ain't even bad really! Fuck, hoes are giving free blow jobs these days give to have something warm in their bellies! lmao

For the record I think this site does great work and gets interviews no one else can...that FACT speaks for itself IMO!
Mean Mister Mustard
QUOTE (thehype @ Oct 13 2011, 02:50 PM) *
I didn't close the thread, so no clue as to what the fuck you're talking about. I could care less about "anti-Mayweather" threads. There's been plenty here before that have never been closed.

As for the PPV numbers, Kevin Iole reported 1.3-1.7, we reported 1.3, and just last Friday, Dan Rafael says Schaefer and HBO told him well over 1 million, so like I said, this mystery 850,000 number doesn't really matter to me. And I didn't "dismiss" Steve Kim's credentials...so please don't put words on my fingers...I agreed with the fact that he's dialed in, which is one of the reasons why he even calls me when he's snoopin for info.

As for other reporters getting credit, I could care less about that shit too...if I did care, I'd put a fucking word filter on other websites and prevent people from linking to them...kind of like other websites do for us. My response to Fitz was ONLY because I don't feel as though WE get enough credit on our own motherfuckin' message board!

I tell you what though....I am starting to reconsider someone else's opinion about message boards and am really wondering if it's worth the fucking headache of keeping one around for motherfuckers who only seem to bitch all the time.


And just for the record, I reopened the fuckin thread since, like I said, I'm not even sure why it was closed in the first place because there ain't no motherfuckin conspiracy.


This bitching is really getting on your nerves? Didn't a great man once say that you haven't made it big unless people are bitching at you?
PalookaJoe
QUOTE (cshel86 @ Oct 13 2011, 09:31 AM) *
Since we are repeating recent history...anybody know who Steve Kim is?

Lil Kim's brother?
gravytrain
QUOTE (caneman @ Oct 13 2011, 03:31 PM) *
I will say this, while $1.3 million sounds fine....I always wondered about the PPV's that you never hear the final #'s on! I would think those are the ones that done less than expected like maybe Pac/Mosley for example, they may never give the final #'s! The fact is no matter if it's this site or another, they can report what they are told. The way the economy is these days, honestly 850k ain't even bad really! Fuck, hoes are giving free blow jobs these days give to have something warm in their bellies! lmao

For the record I think this site does great work and gets interviews no one else can...that FACT speaks for itself IMO!


the ppv numbers are public information, it isn't private like with the UFC. i'm sure if Pac or Mayweather tried to say they sold 1.3 mil when it's really 850k TR or GBP would expose them.
Fitz
QUOTE (thehype @ Oct 14 2011, 05:50 AM) *
And just for the record, I reopened the fuckin thread since, like I said, I'm not even sure why it was closed in the first place because there ain't no motherfuckin conspiracy.


It's



He is going nuts laugh.gif
Cshel86
Fuck off Fitz!!! laugh.gif
Mean Mister Mustard
Careful Fitz, he might ban you next.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Mean Mister Mustard @ Oct 13 2011, 07:03 PM) *
Careful Fitz, he might ban you next.

Lmao! I tell you guys all the time, Im not big on pulling the plug on folks!
mgrover
ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY!!! everybodyy panicc

nah who gives a fuck really, i mean really, if it is 1.3 million great for floyd and ortiz they robbed those people of a decent night of boxing and made money. if its not am sure its just hate material to be used by those that hate floyd and it will be brought up everytime a hate thread is going on.
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE (Fitz @ Oct 13 2011, 06:47 PM) *
It's



He is going nuts laugh.gif


Such a great pic. That looks just like one of the sea shells he used to play with on the beach in 1986. Haha.


QUOTE (Mean Mister Mustard @ Oct 13 2011, 07:03 PM) *
Careful Fitz, he might ban you next.


laugh.gif

Sorry sea shell, this stuff is funny. You are like the new employee "sliding" into that team leader or supervisor position, while the guys with seniority just sit back and bitch.
Cshel86


I hate all of you freakin' mindless nitwits!!!
The Ollie Reed Fan Club
QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Oct 14 2011, 04:30 PM) *
Such a great pic. That looks just like one of the sea shells he used to play with on the beach in 1986. Haha.




laugh.gif

Sorry sea shell, this stuff is funny. You are like the new employee "sliding" into that team leader or supervisor position, while the guys with seniority just sit back and bitch.


Hey good one, see you can be funny.

I wanna know if it's not Seashell dropping the hammer and Hype isn't around all that much then who fook is it doing all this banning? It's turning into the FH version of 'The Usual Suspects".

Maybe we've got Kaiser fucken Soze as a moderator. laugh.gif
PalookaJoe
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