QUOTE (blackbelt2003 @ Oct 23 2011, 04:03 AM)
Did you watch these fights? Kessler easily matched Calzaghe in the early rounds...he hurt Joe with a monster uppercut in the 4th (I think) and was slightly ahead at the halfway stage. Calzaghe then brought his speed into play and outboxed Mikkel, who is a little slow when the other guy is a pure boxer. Froch fought him toe to toe instead of boxing him, which was Froch's mistake (I still thought Froch deserved the verdict).
And Froch beat Pascal fairly easy. Just because it was an exciting, toe-to-toe fight it doesn't mean it was tight. Froch nearly stopped him in the opener and won a good majority of the rounds. It took Hops two attempts to do that...and Hops was hurt in 2nd fight remember.
And you can put question marks over all Froch's opponents....but I'd still pick them over Cal's 168 opponents.
Johnson > Lacy
Taylor > Eubank
Dirrell > Bika
Abraham > Brewer
and so on.
I actually disagree with all of your points, but when you say that maybe I don't watch the fights and then you're saying that Calzaghe started to box Kessler, I don't know what you're talking about b/c yes Calzaghe got rocked not with just one uppercut, he was getting hit in the first 4,5 rounds when he was trying to be cute and box. So then he turned it up and roughed Kessler up and Kessler was kinda out of the fight by the 9, 10th round. I don't remember Zaghe going toe to toe early and then switching to boxing, I remmeber the exact opposite.
Johnson's resume at 168 is nada so Johnson when he fought Froch < Lacy when Jeff fought Joe, that's not even up for an argument and still the manner of which Froch won and the manner of which Joe won, there is quite a difference. Joe beat a young, undefeated champ that was favoured by everyone and ruined him for life. On the other hand, Froch beat an old fighter that came down in weight, and he didn't beat him impressively.
Taylor's resume at 168 is nada and when he fought Froch Taylor < Eubank. Taylor was coming off two bad losses against Pavlik at 160 and then knocked down Froch twice and wa giving it to Froch only for Froch to come back and stop him, which was impressive but only because he was getting his head blown up in the first half of the fight. Eubank was 29 when he fought Joe, he was coming off a SD loss against Steve Collins and Zaghe tore into him. You cannot seriously talk about Taylor better than Eubank, that doesn't make sense on any part of the universe.
Abraham's resume at 168 , he won against Taylor who had no resume at 168 and was already damaged anyway. Abraham was too small to compete at 168.
When Kessler fought Zaghe he was at his best and Zaghe beat him soundly. When Kessler fought Froch, he wasn't at his best, but he still beat Froch.
Froch should've lost against Dirrel, I thouth he won 4 rounds max.
Btw, can you compare one name on Froch's ledger to Hopkins? I didn't think so.
So Zaghe's resume is better not only because of who he fought but also because of how he defeated his opposition.