QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Oct 19 2011, 12:49 AM)
Damn it Manny! I like him as a fighter, his relentlessness of his style has gone down a bit but I don't blame him the added fame has made him a bit soft. This shit right here, oh hell naw Manny. You taking your future opponent to court? I've never heard of a fighter did this before. My perspective of his team is already in the shit hole and Arum pretty much get's the meat grinder for his shit, but Manny? Your a grown ass man and your sleeping with the enemy. Your eating off the hands of a man who gives you crumbs and has his other hand in deep in your pockets but yet you sue Floyd for an opinion?? This shit is beyond nuts!! I'm not surprised ESPN didn't cover this as they are pro Pacman but damn this shit is wild. I've lost some respect for Manny for this shit, people in the U.S. still love him and nothing of what Floyd said hurt his income. It's offical Manny is a dumb ass as a man who probably can't think for himself as much as Roach and Arum says he can. This is not looking good for him, I can imagine Floyd being upset but not worried. Obviously someone else is telling him to do this but he's following their instructions which makes him a puppet.
SMH! Real Boxing fans need to knows this, in the history of the sport. Trash talking and opinions were never sued upon till now and Floyd is ordered to pay his legal fees?? C'MON SON!!!! That's a bitch move Manny.
Respectfully, I disagree. I think there's a world of difference between sharing your opinions, and stating something as FACT and going on a smear campaign to discredit and defame someone.
If Floyd and his people had couched all their comments with "I BELIEVE.." or "IN MY OPINION..." that'd be one thing. But they took it that extra level by stating unequivocably that he was on performance enhancing drugs.
And you can think it hasn't had an effect on Manny's career, and it's true he's still getting fights and getting money. But his reputation has suffered dramatically.
Look at how he was viewed prior to all this, and then after.
Ever since Floyd "retired" the media started paying attention to Manny and talking about how he was the best pound for pound fighter out there. Floyd didn't appear to take to that too well, and called his comeback fight the DAY of Manny's fight with Hatton.
So many moves he's made has been to counteract Manny. He downtalks everything about the man, he's convinced so many people that Manny is dirty JUST ON HIS SAY SO ALONE!
No proof. No failed tests. Just "I think he's dirty and he won't do what I say and prove me wrong" and people accept it.
I don't like Manny or the people he surrounds himself with. I think he gets away with too much shit like catch weights and fighting people who are "names" but are not real threats to him, and who are coming off of losses to Floyd. I think it's weird how there are so many miscommunications from those in his circle.
I also think that Manny is probably not making all the decisions there. I think he's just a nice guy that allows himself to get run over, because as long as he's got money to help people out where he's from, and as long as he's able to keep fighting and whatnot, he doesn't give a shit. At least that's how I see it.
In this business though nice guys don't win. Which is why Floyd is such a success by being the asshole.
However all that being said, I don't see any reason to say he's taking something unless we get eye witnesses saying so, or a failed test or whatever. Not someone from his circle supposedly sending an email trying to cover their asses because they may or may not have faith in Manny.
This country is supposed to be based on "innocent until proven guilty". not help the accuser make his case for him.
That's like the cops getting mad at you because you won't tell him all the dirt you've been doing. That's THEIR fucking jobs. In this case, it's Floyd's job to back up the slanderous accusations he's been making. Same with Roger and Floyd Sr. And the fact that he's doing everything in his power to not give a deposition, including saying that he can't take a morning off for six months, and that partying in the club and throwing money around is "promo" for the fight" is perhaps an indication that he knows that he can't prove his accusations.
As I said, there's a difference between giving your opinion and stating your opinion as fact.