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Cshel86
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I must be honest, I almost didn't give Peterson a chance after the fight was announced this summer, but Im sure his motivation is through the roof at this point. He's fighting in his hometown, and it appears that he's been severely overlooked, which is a MAJOR motivational factor. I mean damn, Khan is babbling about who's he wants next, and the winner of whoever, blah, blah, blah. Peterson could very well be the guy to fuck up Khan's little plans in his hello kitty planner.

Peterson really has nothing to lose, and most viewers (the unqualified ones), are already giving the fight to Khan. After I saw what I saw on Saturday night (JMM/Pac), anything is possible. Im looking at how Peterson withstood Ortiz's shit, and fought all the way back to a draw. His power isn't the topic of discussion, which is probably why people wont give him a chance. My point is, as long as he has 1 or more KO wins on his record, then he's very much capable of producing one. Hell, Malignaggi almost knocked Diaz out in their rematch, and we all know Paulie punching power is as soft as a baby's butt.

The thing is, Peterson needs to find a way to cut the ring off, so Khan wont have the opportunity to circle him...like he always does his opponents. Head movement is also a big key factor for Peterson, because we all know Khan throws 3-4 punches at once, then moves out. No one can question Peterson's technique, but he has to either be quick or find a way to turn Khan in order to neutralize his offense, and execute his shit as quick and precisely as possible. Peterson's biggest mistake would be to stand there in all hopes of trading with Khan, and end up with a busted up face and low punch output...or possibly finishing the fight on his back.

Oh yeah...I hate Anthony Peterson! laugh.gif

Thoughts?
HazConvictedFelonMane
This is a very live fight for Khan Shel. Peterson got heart. He hit Ortiz with an overhand right that might put Khan to sleep. Looking forward to this fight and I will give Amir Khan credit if he pulls this one off in an impressive manner.
Cshel86
QUOTE (HazConvictedFelonMane @ Nov 14 2011, 01:32 PM) *
This is a very live fight for Khan Shel. Peterson got heart. He hit Ortiz with an overhand right that might put Khan to sleep. Looking forward to this fight and I will give Amir Khan credit if he pulls this one off in an impressive manner.


Exactly! Khan hasn't really had a live opponent since Maidana. Though Maidana was clearly outclassed most of the fight, he still almost gave it Khan like mail on Sunday! Im thinking that if Peterson can neutralize Khan's offense, then will have a great chance at pulling off an upset...maybe not a KO, but he needs to be aggressive enough to steal the cards convincingly. I will credit Khan for pulling this off, though its his fight to win anyway.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 14 2011, 03:22 PM) *
Exactly! Khan hasn't really had a live opponent since Maidana. Though Maidana was clearly outclassed most of the fight, he still almost gave it Khan like mail on Sunday! Im thinking that if Peterson can neutralize Khan's offense, then will have a great chance at pulling off an upset...maybe not a KO, but he needs to be aggressive enough to steal the cards convincingly. I will credit Khan for pulling this off, though its his fight to win anyway.


While I'm not exactly crazy 'bout Khan, I'm even less sold on Anthony Peterson. I think Khan wins this fight, w/ Peterson able to get off here and there. You're right, he hasn't had a live opponent since Maidana...but the key is, he's had THAT opponent...and if we're being honest, save for the 10th round on, he pretty much dominated that fight. He controlled the fight against a guy, who made Victor Ortiz "take his ball and go home". Yes, that Ortiz that ALLOWED Peterson to get back in the fight, b/c (for whatever reason) he's his own worst enemy. He hit Ortiz w/ that right and while Ortiz felt it, he didn't go home. Consider this: who wins Bradley vs. Khan? Then consider what Bradley did to Lamont.

I know, I know...you can't buy into the "if fighter A, lost to fighter B, who lost to fighter C; we must conclude fighter C will beat fighter A". However, it does give some insight as to what may likely happen should they fight. Save some hometown adrenaline due to the crowd, I dont' see Peterson winning this fight...I mean, why else would Khan fight Peterson in his hometown...better yet, why would Golden Boy, make this fight in Peterson's backyard?
Cheesey1
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 14 2011, 11:36 AM) *
I must be honest, I almost didn't give Peterson a chance after the fight was announced this summer, but Im sure his motivation is through the roof at this point. He's fighting in his hometown, and it appears that he's been severely overlooked, which is a MAJOR motivational factor. I mean damn, Khan is babbling about who's he wants next, and the winner of whoever, blah, blah, blah. Peterson could very well be the guy to fuck up Khan's little plans in his hello kitty planner.

Peterson really has nothing to lose, and most viewers (the unqualified ones), are already giving the fight to Khan. After I saw what I saw on Saturday night (JMM/Pac), anything is possible. Im looking at how Peterson withstood Ortiz's shit, and fought all the way back to a draw. His power isn't the topic of discussion, which is probably why people wont give him a chance. My point is, as long as he has 1 or more KO wins on his record, then he's very much capable of producing one. Hell, Malignaggi almost knocked Diaz out in their rematch, and we all know Paulie punching power is as soft as a baby's butt.

The thing is, Peterson needs to find a way to cut the ring off, so Khan wont have the opportunity to circle him...like he always does his opponents. Head movement is also a big key factor for Peterson, because we all know Khan throws 3-4 punches at once, then moves out. No one can question Peterson's technique, but he has to either be quick or find a way to turn Khan in order to neutralize his offense, and execute his shit as quick and precisely as possible. Peterson's biggest mistake would be to stand there in all hopes of trading with Khan, and end up with a busted up face and low punch output...or possibly finishing the fight on his back.

Oh yeah...I hate Anthony Peterson! laugh.gif

Thoughts?

I agree that this is a 50/50 bout. I respect Khan for taking on a very live opponent. Yeah, I agree with your basic assesment (although a k.o is probably not going to happen), because when he lost to Ortiz (only saw bits of him vs. Bradley) he never seemed able to really assert himself the way that I thought that he could by using his boxing skills and maybe that's because he wasn't 100% hell bent on bringing the pain, or maybe he just isn't really that top tier. Has Peterson learnt how to elevate his game after self-analysis of his losses to Bradley and Ortiz? Can he elevate his game? Hopefully he's motivated and hopefully so's Khan.
Cshel86
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 14 2011, 02:31 PM) *
While I'm not exactly crazy 'bout Khan, I'm even less sold on Anthony Peterson. I think Khan wins this fight, w/ Peterson able to get off here and there. You're right, he hasn't had a live opponent since Maidana...but the key is, he's had THAT opponent...and if we're being honest, save for the 10th round on, he pretty much dominated that fight. He controlled the fight against a guy, who made Victor Ortiz "take his ball and go home". Yes, that Ortiz that ALLOWED Peterson to get back in the fight, b/c (for whatever reason) he's his own worst enemy. He hit Ortiz w/ that right and while Ortiz felt it, he didn't go home. Consider this: who wins Bradley vs. Khan? Then consider what Bradley did to Lamont.

I know, I know...you can't buy into the "if fighter A, lost to fighter B, who lost to fighter C; we must conclude fighter C will beat fighter A". However, it does give some insight as to what may likely happen should they fight. Save some hometown adrenaline due to the crowd, I dont' see Peterson winning this fight...I mean, why else would Khan fight Peterson in his hometown...better yet, why would Golden Boy, make this fight in Peterson's backyard?


Dont worry Noles, Im waaay less sold on Anthony Peterson than you. I hate Anthony Peterson! Thats got to be the most undisciplined little brother in the sport...reminds me of Marcus Vick laugh.gif Lamont on the other hand, is the focal point. I get what you're saying about the way his fight went with Bradley, definitely not very impressive. I just give him more of a chance than Khan's recent opponents. I already stated my doubts about him in this fight, but I feel like Khan is somewhat overlooking him because there are other big fights within his reach that will materialize within the next 3-4 months. I was just looking at how he withstood Ortiz's punishment, though Ortiz is considered a head case, he still delivers those "clock-cleaners".

QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 14 2011, 02:34 PM) *
I agree that this is a 50/50 bout. I respect Khan for taking on a very live opponent. Yeah, I agree with your basic assesment (although a k.o is probably not going to happen), because when he lost to Ortiz (only saw bits of him vs. Bradley) he never seemed able to really assert himself the way that I thought that he could by using his boxing skills and maybe that's because he wasn't 100% hell bent on bringing the pain, or maybe he just isn't really that top tier. Has Peterson learnt how to elevate his game after self-analysis of his losses to Bradley and Ortiz? Can he elevate his game? Hopefully he's motivated and hopefully so's Khan.


Hell, I believe that Peterson is a mandatory, so that may be the only reason the fight is taking place. The first negotiations for this fight were nothing short of a kick in the ass and slap in the back of the head to follow. I have to read up on it again, but if I remember correctly, Team Khan wanted the upper end of a 70/30 split and I dont believe Peterson would've received any of the UK money. Then the saddest part was, they tried to make Peterson sign a rematch clause with the SAME stipulations, even though he would've been the WBA champ, had he won. What kind of BS was that?

Can he elevate his game? That remains to be seen, so I guess we will have to see next month...
Tha Docta
not impressed with Peterson at all. i dont think he has a chance in hell of winning this fight.
Box in Hand
Peterson just doesn't have that "It" factor. I think he will have his moments but will lose a UD to Khan.
BoxingStill#1
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 14 2011, 03:31 PM) *
I mean, why else would Khan fight Peterson in his hometown...better yet, why would Golden Boy, make this fight in Peterson's backyard?


There is a boat load of local talent here that is going to be on display....

Icluding a newly signed prospect in Dusty Harrison (17 yr old, 2-0)

And ofcoarse Heavyweight Seth Mitchell who I had the brief pleasure of speaking with Saturday night...

The card is loaded with D.C talent...
bnoles4life
QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Nov 14 2011, 10:40 PM) *
There is a boat load of local talent here that is going to be on display....

Icluding a newly signed prospect in Dusty Harrison (17 yr old, 2-0)

And ofcoarse Heavyweight Seth Mitchell who I had the brief pleasure of speaking with Saturday night...

The card is loaded with D.C talent...



That question was aimed at how little GBP thinks of Peterson's chances. If they thought he really and truly could beat Khan, there is NO WAY they fight in D.C. NONE.
BoxingStill#1
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 14 2011, 11:52 PM) *
That question was aimed at how little GBP thinks of Peterson's chances. If they thought he really and truly could beat Khan, there is NO WAY they fight in D.C. NONE.



But the title imply's is Peterson being overlooked?....

The answer is yes, he absolutely is.

That and your question go hand in hand..

GB looks at legit contender,.. but NOT on the same level as Khan

So they give Peterson home court advantage BECAUSE he is being overlooked...

See what I mean?...

I was just trying to fill in the cracks by giving other legit reasons why the fight is being held in D.C
Cshel86
QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Nov 15 2011, 06:56 AM) *
But the title imply's is Peterson being overlooked?....

The answer is yes, he absolutely is.

That and your question go hand in hand..

GB looks at legit contender,.. but NOT on the same level as Khan

So they give Peterson home court advantage BECAUSE he is being overlooked...

See what I mean?...

I was just trying to fill in the cracks by giving other legit reasons why the fight is being held in D.C


Thats a great point. They can play the "back yard card" if Peterson happens to put up a fight and gets screwed out of a decision. It will go something along the lines of, "he fought his hardest in his back yard" blah, blah, blah.
Cshel86
GBP knows what they're doing with this kid...let's prepare ourselves for another Golden Boy gift to Khan. I give Peterson a chance though...a small chance.
checkleft
Lamont is always up and down. But I still haven't bought into Khan, it seems like he wants no part of Prescott (probably less now after that great performance he had even though he lost) mcklowskey made him look bad just by moving his head and stepping in and he looked average at best against zab. If he gets past Peterson, the way ill gain some respect for him is if he fights the winner of berto ortiz like he said he would. But other than that Khans just been all talk
Jack 1000
I voted for Peterson by close decision!

Give me Peterson by SD!

I think that Khan is a very good fighter, but not great. I still think Maidana beat him and Peterson will keep coming all night, Khan is vulnerable and Peterson has the hometown advantage. I am going for the upset here!

Jack
Cshel86
I gave it Khan, by decision. I reeeeeally want to lean towards Peterson for the upset, but in the same breath, Im curious as to know how he will put up with Khan sticking, moving, and circling him all night.

Peterson's a great fighter, but Im just hoping that he doesn't just stand there and cover up while Khan has field day throwing pitty-pat punches no2.gif
BoxingEinstein

Very good fight here. I will be in tag along on watching this fight. Peterson is very capable for an upset. He took Ortiz's best punches and came back. His lone loss is to Bradley who isn't a push over himself either but he will get ruined by fucking with Arum(bye bye Bradley). Khan is impressing me, he dropped Maidana and survived that 10th round barrage (with a little help by the fuck up Ref known as Joe Cortez probably GB protecting him btw) still defeated him barely, but anyways he defeated an invigorated and more focused Judah and has talked himself into a Mayweather fight. He should win the most improved fighter award, and Lamont just took Cayo to the cleaners in a good fight.

Khan has the advantages to beat Peterson but all Peterson has to do is stay mobile, move his head alot, keep his guard up, pick off Khan's 1,2 jab and hook while countering with right hooks upstair and tag Khan to the body when Khan tries to step out as Khan leaves his body vulnerable when he does that. Peterson has a good coach in Barry Hunter.

For Khan to win he has to use his reach and height advantage plus his quickness which I believe he also has that advantage in. If Khan wins impressively against Peterson I will be almost sold on him..keyword...almost. Good fight nonetheless.
Cshel86
Well, yeah Peterson took Ortiz's best punch, but Ortiz didn't stay on him. This gave Peterson room to slip, duck, and survive, until he got his bearings back. I want Lamont to move in this Khan fight, just as he move in the Ortiz not fight, NOT the way he moved in the Cayo fight. Lamont has a slight reach advantage (72) over Khan (71), so let's see if he uses it.

As far as Khan goes, well, Khan is gonna be Khan, until further notice. Its hard to say that this guy's "style" is a problem for fighters, I look at it more as a routine, for some odd reason. It's repetitive, to say the least. He was supposed to have Maidana outta there, but Miadana took all of his punches...so that either says that he has a chin like a mack truck, or Khan doesn't have much power.

Maidana was super flat-footed in that fight (more than usual), slow as all get-out, and dog-tired. I dont know if it was his worn down elf-lookin' shoes that him him look that flat-footed, or he just really looks that bad. Now how does a guy control the pace of a fight and win the majority of the rounds, but almost get stretched by a guy who's obviously dead on his feet? I have no answer for that.

At this point, Im just ready for this fight to come and be over with, already. Regardless of the outcome, much can be measured from this fight. If Lamont pulls off the victory, then much power to him...he would be the first in a long time to ruin Khan's plans in his Hello Kitty planner. If Khan wins, then this will be his first convincing victory in a while, over someone with some type of skill. The rest remains to be seen...
Allmenjoi8
If Khan sticks to his game plan and not get caught up in the atmosphere he will do fine. If he can hang in for the first few rounds and make Khan fight then I think he can pull it off. As the fight goes on he should gain confidence. The longer this fight goes I think Khan will try for a knock out since he has been saying that is what he wants. If Khan can not get what he wants in the fight I think we will see Khan get erratic which will open him for a beating. I like Peterson because Khan has yet to prove himself. Just because you beat a shot Jab does not give you a right to bang your chest and say you are somehow the man to beat. Peterson seems like he is trying to prove something and this fight will get him into the Mayweather sweepstakes
streetlion1
Im gonna pick Peterson to get a lucky knockout...simply because I dont like Khan...that is all lol.
The Original MrFactor
If Khan doesnt come out like a gangbuster and KO Peterson by swarming him with punches, i think peterson could make it a loooong ugly fight. I can see a lot of holding in those 1st few rounds by Peterson. I'm not counting him out. Khan will start fast. From 4 on, it could be Peterson all the way. Actually rooting for LaMont"Big Dummy"Peterson...
Sunni6Killer
Khan by wide decision(117-111)
Seek
You know what. After some guy said Peterson was tailor made for Khan i started analyzing and you know what. I say BS. If anything, Khan is made for Peterson. Khan relies on speed, power and his explosiveness. Those are hia advantages along with his size. He is not a very smart fighter. He jumps in and out and much of the time can be wreckless and off balance. He can not punch going backwards and his inside game is almost non-existant. What is Peterson now? A very technically sound and smart counter puncher. He is aggressive and will back you up. His defense is on point but sometimes he stays in too long and gets caught. He also sets up traps and makes great midfight adjustments. His advantages i.e. timing, defense, and iq can nullify khans advantages i.e. speed and explosiveness. Anyone seeing pac marquez all over again here? I do....
Seek
It's official. I'm calling an upset tonight. I'm going out on a limb here and picking Peterson by SD. I think with all this Mayweather talk Khan has been spewing, it's getting to people's heads. Khan is the obvious pick but the recipe for an upset is there. Lamont not only has the skills to win, but he is in amazing mental and physical conditioning, fighting for his 2nd chance at a world title and it's going down in his backyard. That is dangerous. Peterson by SD, book it!
Cshel86
QUOTE (Seek @ Dec 10 2011, 02:21 AM) *
He jumps in and out and much of the time can be wreckless and off balance


Gee, I wonder who this reminds me of...

laugh.gif
Seek
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 10 2011, 12:11 PM) *
Gee, I wonder who this reminds me of...

laugh.gif


It's interesting. This is going to look a lot like Pacquiao Marquez. Interesting fact also is that Marquez is one of Lamont's favorite fighters. Just saw that in an interview of Peterson
Jack 1000
With regards to Khan,

The Maidana-Khan fight was classic stuff! And THAT is a fight where I thought Maidana won and Khan should rematch him! And Peterson throws a lot of leather, but he has been hit himself. IMO, I think there are many fighters more boring than Khan and Peterson.

However, I agree that both of them could go into a dance if they get hurt making for a boring fight, so that could happen. I think this is a good 50/50 match.

Judging/officiating may favor Peterson though. We have a home court advantage. Judges are from Puerto Rico. (Vasquez), Philadelphia (Hill) and Washington DC( Dorsett) No UK judges. The ref Joe Cooper, is from DC as well.

Jack
Seek
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Dec 10 2011, 01:44 PM) *
With regards to Khan,

The Maidana-Khan fight was classic stuff! And THAT is a fight where I thought Maidana won and Khan should rematch him! And Peterson throws a lot of leather, but he has been hit himself. IMO, I think there are many fighters more boring than Khan and Peterson.

However, I agree that both of them could go into a dance if they get hurt making for a boring fight, so that could happen. I think this is a good 50/50 match.

Judging/officiating may favor Peterson though. We have a home court advantage. Judges are from Puerto Rico. (Vasquez), Philadelphia (Hill) and Washington DC( Dorsett) No UK judges. The ref Joe Cooper, is from DC as well.

Jack


2 american judges and a home town ref. I'm feeling more and more confident in an upset tonight. Hope i'm not completely off
Jack 1000
QUOTE (Seek @ Dec 10 2011, 12:02 PM) *
2 American judges and a home town ref. I'm feeling more and more confident in an upset tonight. Hope I'm not completely off


The big question is what happens when one hits the other? If they can both take each others punches and last, this could be a war. If one gets hit and goes into dance mode, this could be a tactical cat and mouse game. Both are chinny, but I think have good hearts going in.

It sure sounds like Peterson got the officials he wanted! Or Khan didn't get what he wanted, or Khan did not protest to anybody.

Jack
Cshel86
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Dec 10 2011, 01:23 PM) *
The big question is what happens when one hits the other? If they can both take each others punches and last, this could be a war.


Im more concerned about Peterson in this situation. If he lets Khan pitty-pat him to death, then we may be disappointed this evening. Im wondering whether or not he will be able to even land on Khan, since he's a safety first type fighter...which means that he may be covering up the whole night.

***Stinker of the night: The replay of Cotto/Margarito II...I would much rather see this last (with the extra footage, of course). It wouldn't have been a problem if we didn't have to sit through a HW co-feature. lazy2.gif
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 10 2011, 02:35 PM) *
Im more concerned about Peterson in this situation. If he lets Khan pitty-pat him to death, then we may be disappointed this evening. Im wondering whether or not he will be able to even land on Khan, since he's a safety first type fighter...which means that he may be covering up the whole night.

***Stinker of the night: The replay of Cotto/Margarito II...I would much rather see this last (with the extra footage, of course). It wouldn't have been a problem if we didn't have to sit through a HW co-feature. lazy2.gif


Peterson is in his own backyard plus a DC former featherweight champ just was elected to the boxing HOF. He has to show out or else he is going to take the air out of DC boxing as a fighting city. I will be staying home tonight to watch this fight (I have a cold) so I am hoping that Khan and Peterson put a good show. Peterson has to come out firing. Khan is trying to end the fight early but I am hoping it goes the distance. I want to see Peterson grow in the ring and adjust. I have a feeling Khan only has a Plan A, so we will see if Ariza and Roach can adjust to the fight as well, do you think Floyd will be in the crowd? lol j/k
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