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DubC
According to Fat Boy Dan's twitter

@danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
Breaking: @FloydMayweather & @GoldenBoyBoxing have been told @trboxing won't negotiate Pacquiao-FM in order to pursue 4th fight with Marquez
Jhill47
Well i'm not surprised at all. Wonder what excuse PAC fans will have now. I'm sure they will find a way to blame Mayweather they always do.
MaxPayne
They have no leverage right now, against Mayweather. It's not a sell-able fight at this point in time, unless he goes out and actually dominates Marquez in the 4th fight.
bobnweave
Figures not suprising news since pac took that L the other night..lets see how the media spins this one on Floyd...
Hotsauce
woooooooooooooooooooooooooow

just

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
Genius
LMAO!!!!
BigFightFan
Possibly no NBA and no PAC vs Floyd. My sports life is going down hill.
bobnweave
Will Arum finally be exposed??

Here's The Article!!

Seems Like Big Dan is finnaly seeing the light l0l clapping.gif
Hotsauce
im speechless
mrchitown
QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Nov 14 2011, 09:02 PM) *
Possibly no NBA and no PAC vs Floyd. My sports life is going down hill.


I co-sign this statement
iKeNjiro
Good week for Floyd fans
Through all the bad, an name calling n excuses

Here we are, te truth is revealed as clear as ever now.
Now time for Floyd to annouce Martinez or a top tier beat em an retire
BoxingEinstein

I don't even want to see this fight any more. I'm more interested in Mayweather vs Martinez at 154 now. Pacman isn't ready for neither and Arum just made his fighter look like a duck by dancing around the idea of facing Floyd on the same date Floyd already has a scheduled venue at MGM. Arum KNOWS his fighter cannot beat Floyd, not even on his best days. Fuck Pacman vs Mayweather....We Want Sergio vs Floyd. Floyd called Arum's bluff and Pacquiao even came out and called out Mayweather. But at the post fight interview with Arum beside him, Pacman quickly changed his mind and said it's up to my promoter. SMH...Pacman this man is going to ruin your legacy when all the dust settles and when hidden facts start to come out.
checkleft
I'm more surprised that ESPN put this up on their site. Let's put the two real top fighters against each other, Martinez Mayweather at 154.
Box in Hand
If you are surprised at this then you really can't see through bullshit and may need to go enroll in "How 2 Spot Some Bullshit 101" at your local community college. Arum was ringside sweating like Don King the night Tyson got waxed by Douglas. He then said a fourth fight on the same day Mayweather said he would fight LMFAO. Arum knows and everyone else knows now that Pacquiao would get the living baby shit beat out of him including Freddy Roach.
Hotsauce
i want to see mayweather/martinez
Hotsauce
lol this is a good week for floyd fans and a bad week for manny fans
BoxingEinstein

WOW...Check this out.,..check out what Amir Khan had to say...even Manny's friend and sparring partner...SMFH...Everything is going very bad in Pacland.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/ar...l#ixzz1djv1hgs0
Cshel86
QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 14 2011, 08:36 PM) *
They have no leverage right now, against Mayweather. It's not a sell-able fight at this point in time, unless he goes out and actually dominates Marquez in the 4th fight.


I agree with the leverage part, but as far as the fight goes, it will sell regardless. There are several clueless fans out there who are at least a year behind with the facts on the negotitations...thats if they even really know whats going on. So, when a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight gets announced, it will be exclusive news to them.

We actually understood what happened on Saturday night and have been keeping up with negotiation details for the longest, so we may not all that excited when the fight comes around. There's no profit for him dominating JMM in a 4th fight, when we already know what the real deal is. To the clueless fans, it will be a long-awaited and well exectued victory for Pac.

QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Nov 14 2011, 10:04 PM) *
I don't even want to see this fight any more. I'm more interested in Mayweather vs Martinez at 154 now. Pacman isn't ready for neither and Arum just made his fighter look like a duck by dancing around the idea of facing Floyd on the same date Floyd already has a scheduled venue at MGM. Arum KNOWS his fighter cannot beat Floyd, not even on his best days. Fuck Pacman vs Mayweather....We Want Sergio vs Floyd. Floyd called Arum's bluff and Pacquiao even came out and called out Mayweather. But at the post fight interview with Arum beside him, Pacman quickly changed his mind and said it's up to my promoter. SMH...Pacman this man is going to ruin your legacy when all the dust settles and when hidden facts start to come out.


My interest took a nose dive after Saturday night, but Im pretty sure the fight will still be an event. Pacquiao accepted the challenge, just to save face, thats it. Arum is already in 3rd gear with ruining his career, escpecially after the number of corpses he's fought over the past 3 years.
DubC
QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Nov 14 2011, 09:11 PM) *
If you are surprised at this then you really can't see through bullshit and may need to go enroll in "How 2 Spot Some Bullshit 101" at your local community college. Arum was ringside sweating like Don King the night Tyson got waxed by Douglas. He then said a fourth fight on the same day Mayweather said he would fight LMFAO. Arum knows and everyone else knows now that Pacquiao would get the living baby shit beat out of him including Freddy Roach.


And anybody that knew anything about the sport, and didn't have to please "the media" knew it was TR doing all the ducking and placing blame on FMJ...Anyone who didn't know this previously and isn't absolutely retarded now knows that Floyd would wax the floor with Manny...

Now the question is, who does May use as a tune up in Feb for a HUGE fight on Cinco de Mayo? He won't fight Sergio next, if he goes that route it would be in May...Khan isn't ready and wants a couple of WW fights before a superfight (if he gets by Peterson and whatever tomato can they put in front of him for his first 147 fight)
Box in Hand
QUOTE (DubC @ Nov 14 2011, 10:21 PM) *
And anybody that knew anything about the sport, and didn't have to please "the media" knew it was TR doing all the ducking and placing blame on FMJ...Anyone who didn't know this previously and isn't absolutely retarded now knows that Floyd would wax the floor with Manny...

Now the question is, who does May use as a tune up in Feb for a HUGE fight on Cinco de Mayo? He won't fight Sergio next, if he goes that route it would be in May...Khan isn't ready and wants a couple of WW fights before a superfight (if he gets by Peterson and whatever tomato can they put in front of him for his first 147 fight)



I say he will fight the Ortiz vs Berto winner.
Genius
Pac fans won't recover lol
Genius
Floyd should fight Alexander then Martinez in May.
Cshel86
QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Nov 14 2011, 10:14 PM) *
WOW...Check this out.,..check out what Amir Khan had to say...even Manny's friend and sparring partner...SMFH...Everything is going very bad in Pacland.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/ar...l#ixzz1djv1hgs0


Khan's an idiot! Who would consider retirement, just to save their status as p4p king? No matter how many fights you lose towards the end of your career, you will always be looked at as a great champion and p4p king. This is how I know Daffy Duck Khan will crumble when someone shatters his self-proclaimed false sense of pound4pound rankings.

Then he wants to go into sparring talk, just to say that "Manny hasn't been getting the better of it". What a piece of crock! C'mon Khan, if it wasn't for Roach, Ariza, and the so-called "fading sparring king" Pacquiao...nobody would even know who the fuck you were. Learn how to close your beak sometimes Daffy...
checkleft
QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Nov 14 2011, 10:11 PM) *
If you are surprised at this then you really can't see through bullshit and may need to go enroll in "How 2 Spot Some Bullshit 101" at your local community college. Arum was ringside sweating like Don King the night Tyson got waxed by Douglas. He then said a fourth fight on the same day Mayweather said he would fight LMFAO. Arum knows and everyone else knows now that Pacquiao would get the living baby shit beat out of him including Freddy Roach.


The reason I'm surprised is because ESPN buys and proudly displays their bull shit. Don't assume bro, its not a good look.

As for a Martinez fight, with mayweather it will sell well regardless. He has shown he can carry a ppv, so whether its berto Martinez vic or maidana it will sell.
DubC
QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Nov 14 2011, 09:25 PM) *
I say he will fight the Ortiz vs Berto winner.


Can't, that fight is supposed to be Jan 28th-it's not official yet is it?

And that will be another battle for both, they would need at least a little more recovery time even if the fight were tomorrow...I've never been sold on Berto, but I think he will win the rematch for some reason...

If he is actually planning to fight Sergio, it would be at JMW-maybe he fights the tune up there? If he's looking for something that will sell, Canelo has a huge following-he may wipe him off the map (though I doubt that fight happens)

We know it won't be Bradley (TR)...I'm going to think about this, he may very well surprise everyone with the Feb opponent-but the fight has to be announced soon...

I would literally shit my pants if he fought Sergio in Feb, he is "supposed" to be fighting Macklin (lol) St Patty's day...I still see Serg in May, and him forgetting about the Macklin fight...

Where's Hype? Would like his input, even though he probably won't be able to everything
DubC
QUOTE (Genius @ Nov 14 2011, 09:32 PM) *
Floyd should fight Alexander then Martinez in May.


haha.gif

I would rather him see Morales than fucking Devon, and I don't even want to think about him fighting Morales (mismatch)-he would get bashed for that one and he knows it
DubC
I don't see much out there...If Canelo gets past Cintron, and doesn't have a grueling fight that's about it without digging at the bottom of the barrel...Take out all the TR fighters, they aren't going to happen-and all those that are committed already (unless they pay step aside $ )

Just for shits and grins, I saw this earlier...3 of 5 here are a definite NO, leaves Sergio and Canelo (and Canelo has a fight in 2 weeks)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/939053-...etty-boy/page/6

Box in Hand
QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 14 2011, 10:37 PM) *
The reason I'm surprised is because ESPN buys and proudly displays their bull shit. Don't assume bro, its not a good look.

As for a Martinez fight, with mayweather it will sell well regardless. He has shown he can carry a ppv, so whether its berto Martinez vic or maidana it will sell.



Assume what?
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Nov 14 2011, 09:38 PM) *
woooooooooooooooooooooooooow

just

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow


My sentiments exactly. I wonder will people actually pay to see the 4th installment. If I am JMM I am not fighting Pac again. He is never going to get a W unless they fight in Mexico City. They will not let Pac loose.

QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Nov 14 2011, 10:02 PM) *
Possibly no NBA and no PAC vs Floyd. My sports life is going down hill.


The WNBA is always a go. Or you can look at cricket and even tennis.
HazConvictedFelonMane
It's not even a great day as a fan. I've stuck to my guns from day 1.
Box in Hand
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 14 2011, 10:37 PM) *
Khan's an idiot! Who would consider retirement, just to save their status as p4p king? No matter how many fights you lose towards the end of your career, you will always be looked at as a great champion and p4p king. This is how I know Daffy Duck Khan will crumble when someone shatters his self-proclaimed false sense of pound4pound rankings.

Then he wants to go into sparring talk, just to say that "Manny hasn't been getting the better of it". What a piece of crock! C'mon Khan, if it wasn't for Roach, Ariza, and the so-called "fading sparring king" Pacquiao...nobody would even know who the fuck you were. Learn how to close your beak sometimes Daffy...



Khan is no friend of Manny. This article showed that. It's ok to say Manny lost but to throw your supposed friend under the bus like this deserves a smack in the face.
Cshel86
QUOTE (DubC @ Nov 14 2011, 10:38 PM) *
he may very well surprise everyone with the Feb opponent-but the fight has to be announced soon...


Soon, as in YESTERDAY. Like I said earlier, February is up our asses, no way FMJ can put some shit together that quick. The last time he announced some shit this soon, was on May 2, 2009 on the night of the Pac/Hatton fight, and his fight with JMM was set to happen on July 18th...not enough time. Guess what happened? It got resecheduled to Sept. 19th, because of the injury. So Im sure Floyd knows to not to schedule a fight so soon, shit happens.

QUOTE (DubC @ Nov 14 2011, 10:42 PM) *
I would rather him see Morales than fucking Devon, and I don't even want to think about him fighting Morales (mismatch)-he would get bashed for that one and he knows it


Morales would be the lesser of two evils for Floyd if the choices are Morales and Alexander. At least Mexicans will buy that shit and watch it woth pride...gotta be the most hardcore fans in boxing history.

QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Nov 14 2011, 10:57 PM) *
The WNBA is always a go.


Hell fuck no! Kill me now thumbsdown_anim.gif

QUOTE (HazConvictedFelonMane @ Nov 14 2011, 11:01 PM) *
It's not even a great day as a fan. I've stuck to my guns from day 1.


In situations like this, thats the best thing to do. Good one Haz
Cshel86
QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Nov 14 2011, 11:19 PM) *
Khan is no friend of Manny. This article showed that. It's ok to say Manny lost but to throw your supposed friend under the bus like this deserves a smack in the face.


He may very well get that slap in the face. Guys sacrifice themselves for big paydays these days...
DubC
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 14 2011, 10:19 PM) *
Soon, as in YESTERDAY. Like I said earlier, February is up our asses, no way FMJ can put some shit together that quick. The last time he announced some shit this soon, was on May 2, 2009 on the night of the Pac/Hatton fight, and his fight with JMM was set to happen on July 18th...not enough time. Guess what happened? It got resecheduled to Sept. 19th, because of the injury. So Im sure Floyd knows to not to schedule a fight so soon, shit happens.



Morales would be the lesser of two evils for Floyd if the choices are Morales and Alexander. At least Mexicans will buy that shit and watch it woth pride...gotta be the most hardcore fans in boxing history.


True on postponing the fights...That's the problem with trying to schedule things in advance like Feb and May fights

And lesser than two evils, is correct...I might actually think about watching Morales because he is still a warrior with a ton of experience...Alexander, I wouldn't even watch the free replay a week later (unless it was a brutal knockout) lol

So what do you think about the Feb opponent (if he can get it pulled together that quick) and then the May opponent Cshel?
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 15 2011, 12:19 AM) *
Soon, as in YESTERDAY. Like I said earlier, February is up our asses, no way FMJ can put some shit together that quick. The last time he announced some shit this soon, was on May 2, 2009 on the night of the Pac/Hatton fight, and his fight with JMM was set to happen on July 18th...not enough time. Guess what happened? It got resecheduled to Sept. 19th, because of the injury. So Im sure Floyd knows to not to schedule a fight so soon, shit happens.



Morales would be the lesser of two evils for Floyd if the choices are Morales and Alexander. At least Mexicans will buy that shit and watch it woth pride...gotta be the most hardcore fans in boxing history.



Hell fuck no! Kill me now thumbsdown_anim.gif



In situations like this, thats the best thing to do. Good one Haz


I have yet to watch a WNBA game. It is worse than Golf. The way they market it and the pace of the game is awful.... Floyd's next opponent should be Khan. Or ge could fight Canelo. Martinez ain't coming down and I doubt it if Floyd would go up. Arum has ended Pac's career.
DubC
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Nov 14 2011, 10:38 PM) *
I have yet to watch a WNBA game. It is worse than Golf. The way they market it and the pace of the game is awful.... Floyd's next opponent should be Khan. Or ge could fight Canelo. Martinez ain't coming down and I doubt it if Floyd would go up. Arum has ended Pac's career.


Khan isn't going to be "ready" in Feb or May (unless the money talks)...I would watch the Canelo fight, but I don't think he has much of a chance-if any at all...It would definitely sell, probably not as good as the Mosely or Vic fights, but would be a good money maker...They could sell the "moving up in weight to fight an undefeated fighter"...Even at this stage Canelo has more of a chance than Vic did imo...

WNBA, worthless...

Golf is great on the course, and I will watch the big events if there isn't anything else on...

Arum, the greedy old dinosaur, has robbed the fans of what would have probably been the best "selling" fight ever (2 years ago, hell even 6 months ago smh)
Cshel86
QUOTE (DubC @ Nov 14 2011, 11:26 PM) *
True on postponing the fights...That's the problem with trying to schedule things in advance like Feb and May fights

And lesser than two evils, is correct...I might actually think about watching Morales because he is still a warrior with a ton of experience...Alexander, I wouldn't even watch the free replay a week later (unless it was a brutal knockout) lol

So what do you think about the Feb opponent (if he can get it pulled together that quick) and then the May opponent Cshel?


Yeah Alexander brings no money to the table, but he's a live body (with little experience laugh.gif). On the other hand, Morales has much experience, but he has crazy fighter miles on him...but yet, he brings money (fan base) to the table. As far as Floyd's possible February opponent, I would PROBABLY give that to Sergio or Maidana, but yet, there wil be no time for promotion. Im just throwing those two out there because they haven't fought since August and October (early), so they may not be waaay out of shape, who knows.

As far as May is concerned, the prior two could be potentials (with room to fight a tune-up before Feb.). There would be a wider range of opponents fr May 5th...like Berto, Ortiz, Khan (maybe at the end of the year...Nov/Dec), Alexander, or Bradley's punk ass. The profitable opponents would more than likely be Ortiz (again), Khan (UK money, Pac/Roach/Ariza association, UK fan base), Berto, or Morales (because of the Mexican fan base). Let's not count out Canelo (which may very well be to early, but who knows).

QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Nov 14 2011, 11:38 PM) *
I have yet to watch a WNBA game. Floyd's next opponent should be Khan. Or he could fight Canelo. Martinez ain't coming down and I doubt it if Floyd would go up. Arum has ended Pac's career.


If you haven't watched a game, then why suggest it to us? Guess we all gotta suffer, huh? Khan may very well be next, but I would expect to see that in November or Decemeber '12...gotta give Khan a couple of impressive WW fights. Martinez WILL come down to 54...hell, if he considered 150 for cramp-leg Pac, then he will do 54 for FMJ. Floyd may very well go up...up to 150! Hahahaha!!! You never know!

QUOTE (DubC @ Nov 14 2011, 11:45 PM) *
Khan isn't going to be "ready" in Feb or May (unless the money talks)...I would watch the Canelo fight, but I don't think he has much of a chance-if any at all...It would definitely sell, probably not as good as the Mosely or Vic fights, but would be a good money maker...They could sell the "moving up in weight to fight an undefeated fighter"...Even at this stage Canelo has more of a chance than Vic did imo...


You're right, he wont be ready in Feb. since it would only be 2 months removed from his Dec. fight. He may very well be ready in May, as a matter of fact, he WILL be ready in May. Think about it, his fight next month will be his 3rd fight this year, so he'll be ready with 5 month's rest. Canelo would be forced to fight if FMJ comes at him, or he may get "frustrated into fighting" if May stays defensive and baits him in, and yes, it would sell pretty good. This is something that remains to be seen. When we think of FMJ opponents, you have to think MONEY first, then PROMOTION second. His opponents would already have had to have some kind of money/money potential attached to their name...even if the opponent doesn't realize it laugh.gif
DubC
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 14 2011, 11:24 PM) *
Yeah Alexander brings no money to the table, but he's a live body (with little experience laugh.gif). On the other hand, Morales has much experience, but he has crazy fighter miles on him...but yet, he brings money (fan base) to the table. As far as Floyd's possible February opponent, I would PROBABLY give that to Sergio or Maidana, but yet, there wil be no time for promotion. Im just throwing those two out there because they haven't fought since August and October (early), so they may not be waaay out of shape, who knows.

As far as May is concerned, the prior two could be potentials (with room to fight a tune-up before Feb.). There would be a wider range of opponents fr May 5th...like Berto, Ortiz, Khan (maybe at the end of the year...Nov/Dec), Alexander, or Bradley's punk ass. The profitable opponents would more than likely be Ortiz (again), Khan (UK money, Pac/Roach/Ariza association, UK fan base), Berto, or Morales (because of the Mexican fan base). Let's not count out Canelo (which may very well be to early, but who knows).



If you haven't watched a game, then why suggest it to us? Guess we all gotta suffer, huh? Khan may very well be next, but I would expect to see that in November or Decemeber '12...gotta give Khan a couple of impressive WW fights. Martinez WILL come down to 54...hell, if he considered 150 for cramp-leg Pac, then he will do 54 for FMJ. Floyd may very well go up...up to 150! Hahahaha!!! You never know!



You're right, he wont be ready in Feb. since it would only be 2 months removed from his Dec. fight. He may very well be ready in May, as a matter of fact, he WILL be ready in May. Think about it, his fight next month will be his 3rd fight this year, so he'll be ready with 5 month's rest. Canelo would be forced to fight if FMJ comes at him, or he may get "frustrated into fighting" if May stays defensive and baits him in, and yes, it would sell pretty good. This is something that remains to be seen. When we think of FMJ opponents, you have to think MONEY first, then PROMOTION second. His opponents would already have had to have some kind of money/money potential attached to their name...even if the opponent doesn't realize it laugh.gif


Thanks C

I thought about Maidana too, which would get his ASS handed to him...The only thing he has is power...He can sell fights due to his power, but he doesn't bring the huge Mexican fan base that Canelo or Morales brings...

This is very unlikely, but we should also expect a surprise...Dzinziruk would be a good build up for a Sergio fight-Sergio whooped his ass and knocked him down 5 times...This probably wouldn't sell a whole lot, but it would set up a HUGE event for May\Serg on Cinco de Mayo...Easy to promote, quite a few people buy fights just to see FMJ lose and him winning a UD vs a guy that Sergio kicked the living shit out of would be good for promotion to those that want to see a May loss (in addition to those that follow him because he is a and expert at the "sweet science") Not likely to happen, but I'd buy it in a heartbeat...

Also, I considered Guerrero-but VERY doubtful he would be ready by Feb...He would be a much better opponent that Devon or Morales imo, but then again it wouldn't even come close to selling as well as a Morales fight (which would only be acceptable if we had to choose between the three)
Cshel86
QUOTE (DubC @ Nov 15 2011, 01:13 AM) *
Thanks C

I thought about Maidana too, which would get his ASS handed to him...The only thing he has is power...He can sell fights due to his power, but he doesn't bring the huge Mexican fan base that Canelo or Morales brings...

This is very unlikely, but we should also expect a surprise...Dzinziruk would be a good build up for a Sergio fight-Sergio whooped his ass and knocked him down 5 times...This probably wouldn't sell a whole lot, but it would set up a HUGE event for May\Serg on Cinco de Mayo...Easy to promote, quite a few people buy fights just to see FMJ lose and him winning a UD vs a guy that Sergio kicked the living shit out of would be good for promotion to those that want to see a May loss (in addition to those that follow him because he is a and expert at the "sweet science") Not likely to happen, but I'd buy it in a heartbeat...

Also, I considered Guerrero-but VERY doubtful he would be ready by Feb...He would be a much better opponent that Devon or Morales imo, but then again it wouldn't even come close to selling as well as a Morales fight (which would only be acceptable if we had to choose between the three)


I believe that you did mention Maidana, cant really remember though. Maidana would put up a fight (in his own mind), but get outclassed anyway. Dzinziruk would honestly be a waste, especially if Sergio ran all over him (I remember). Floyd needs no tune-up for Sergio, Sergio needs a tune-up for Floyd...maybe not for competition necessarily, but a bigger fan base. At this point of Floyd's career, he's looking for somebody that has either collateral or a fan base, or both.

Yeah I agree, Guerrero would be too soon (for Guerrero) and Morales would be a likely pick, though its been denied. Alvarez is a great pick, but that may be a bit too soon as well, though he has a crazy fan base. I dont think Oscar is ready to buss Canelo's bubble that quick, especially if he's bringing in money like this. I still dont know how to call it at this point, I would give it about 6 weeks, then start making more predictions. It all depends on fighters' fight pattern and which one has a large time frame in between thats closer to FMJ's comfortable fight date.
checkleft
Um.. idk about Canelo being more of a challenge then ortiz come on now he still very green. Idk of Canelo has fought a guy with half the power/speed of ortiz and he's in a heavier weight class. Lol
Hotsauce
IMO, Floyd is in a no win situation.


What can Floyd do at this point? If he were to force a hard stance and really push for a fight with Pacquiao, many would say he’s only fighting Pacquiao when Pacquiao appears vulnerable. If Floyd weren’t to fight him now, there are those who will still say Floyd is ducking Manny.



Cshel86
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Nov 15 2011, 01:47 AM) *
IMO, Floyd is in a no win situation.


What can Floyd do at this point? If he were to force a hard stance and really push for a fight with Pacquiao, many would say he’s only fighting Pacquiao when Pacquiao appears vulnerable. If Floyd weren’t to fight him now, there are those who will still say Floyd is ducking Manny.


Ummm...+ muthafuckin' 1. I will end on this note for the evening...Thanks....
DubC
QUOTE (DubC @ Nov 15 2011, 12:13 AM) *
Thanks C

I thought about Maidana too, which would get his ASS handed to him...The only thing he has is power...He can sell fights due to his power, but he doesn't bring the huge Mexican fan base that Canelo or Morales brings...

This is very unlikely, but we should also expect a surprise...Dzinziruk would be a good build up for a Sergio fight-Sergio whooped his ass and knocked him down 5 times...This probably wouldn't sell a whole lot, but it would set up a HUGE event for May\Serg on Cinco de Mayo...Easy to promote, quite a few people buy fights just to see FMJ lose and him winning a UD vs a guy that Sergio kicked the living shit out of would be good for promotion to those that want to see a May loss (in addition to those that follow him because he is a and expert at the "sweet science") Not likely to happen, but I'd buy it in a heartbeat...

Also, I considered Guerrero-but VERY doubtful he would be ready by Feb...He would be a much better opponent that Devon or Morales imo, but then again it wouldn't even come close to selling as well as a Morales fight (which would only be acceptable if we had to choose between the three)


fml

I had a nice response typed, was multitasking and ended up closing the wrong thing...Damn the beer, I'll try and get it put together at work tomorrow when sober
Hotsauce
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 15 2011, 02:49 AM) *
Ummm...+ muthafuckin' 1. I will end on this note for the evening...Thanks....


goodnight
BoxingFan86
QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Nov 14 2011, 09:02 PM) *
Possibly no NBA and no PAC vs Floyd. My sports life is going down hill.

I know, right? FML!
un01
well, so much for mayweather vs pacquiao next year... bob arum is gonna use this time to build up tim bradley for a fight in november .
mgrover
as much as i hate bob arum good on him, i know marquez has had several rematches with pacman two infact, but he deserves another and id pay for it, i loved watching him beat the supposedly invincible p4p king/prince. i hope theres a rematch and he beats him, i really do because that man deserves it
iKeNjiro
JMM should say fuck off and retire
the fans know he won the fight and he can go at a high point in his career
IMO-
anywho anyone down to watch Pacquiao vs JMM 50?
Keep ducking Floyd
sduck
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Nov 15 2011, 01:47 AM) *
IMO, Floyd is in a no win situation.


What can Floyd do at this point? If he were to force a hard stance and really push for a fight with Pacquiao, many would say he’s only fighting Pacquiao when Pacquiao appears vulnerable. If Floyd weren’t to fight him now, there are those who will still say Floyd is ducking Manny.

Lol that's exactly what people are saying now. It's ridiculous. These are the kinds of things that make me lose my spirit in boxing. Pacquiao in a way saves boxing, but the fans just ruin it.
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QUOTE (DubC @ Nov 15 2011, 12:45 AM) *
Khan isn't going to be "ready" in Feb or May (unless the money talks)...I would watch the Canelo fight, but I don't think he has much of a chance-if any at all...It would definitely sell, probably not as good as the Mosely or Vic fights, but would be a good money maker...They could sell the "moving up in weight to fight an undefeated fighter"...Even at this stage Canelo has more of a chance than Vic did imo...

WNBA, worthless...

Golf is great on the course, and I will watch the big events if there isn't anything else on...

Arum, the greedy old dinosaur, has robbed the fans of what would have probably been the best "selling" fight ever (2 years ago, hell even 6 months ago smh)



WNBA they market it wrong. WHo wants to watch basketball in the summer when you just had a long season of the NBA? Golf no thanks. I did hear it was relaxing.
They are going to make money on a 4th fight on JMM. It really is sad what Arum is doing to Manny. Plus I am not sure if I would pay 70 bucks to see Manny get schooled by Mayweather. The 24/7 would be eventful.
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 15 2011, 01:24 AM) *
Yeah Alexander brings no money to the table, but he's a live body (with little experience laugh.gif). On the other hand, Morales has much experience, but he has crazy fighter miles on him...but yet, he brings money (fan base) to the table. As far as Floyd's possible February opponent, I would PROBABLY give that to Sergio or Maidana, but yet, there wil be no time for promotion. Im just throwing those two out there because they haven't fought since August and October (early), so they may not be waaay out of shape, who knows.

As far as May is concerned, the prior two could be potentials (with room to fight a tune-up before Feb.). There would be a wider range of opponents fr May 5th...like Berto, Ortiz, Khan (maybe at the end of the year...Nov/Dec), Alexander, or Bradley's punk ass. The profitable opponents would more than likely be Ortiz (again), Khan (UK money, Pac/Roach/Ariza association, UK fan base), Berto, or Morales (because of the Mexican fan base). Let's not count out Canelo (which may very well be to early, but who knows).



If you haven't watched a game, then why suggest it to us? Guess we all gotta suffer, huh? Khan may very well be next, but I would expect to see that in November or Decemeber '12...gotta give Khan a couple of impressive WW fights. Martinez WILL come down to 54...hell, if he considered 150 for cramp-leg Pac, then he will do 54 for FMJ. Floyd may very well go up...up to 150! Hahahaha!!! You never know!



You're right, he wont be ready in Feb. since it would only be 2 months removed from his Dec. fight. He may very well be ready in May, as a matter of fact, he WILL be ready in May. Think about it, his fight next month will be his 3rd fight this year, so he'll be ready with 5 month's rest. Canelo would be forced to fight if FMJ comes at him, or he may get "frustrated into fighting" if May stays defensive and baits him in, and yes, it would sell pretty good. This is something that remains to be seen. When we think of FMJ opponents, you have to think MONEY first, then PROMOTION second. His opponents would already have had to have some kind of money/money potential attached to their name...even if the opponent doesn't realize it laugh.gif


You watch it first and tell me how it is. Is Marvilla a big enough draw? I wonder if he fights Paul Williams will that bring him some money? I would say Mike Jones but no one has really heard of him outside of the boxing public. It is amazing the media reaction to this fight. Now they are saying May wants to fight Manny now because he seems to slow down and he can see that there are kinks in his fighting. I am like, people have been saying that, yawl were too busy drooling at his knockouts to see that May would kill this guy in a boxing match (not a brawl). Stupidity lives on,
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