QUOTE (dhoward126 @ Dec 1 2011, 10:57 PM)
No, Tyson's peak ended when he was knocked out by Douglas. Tyson fought Douglas five months after he KOd Carl Williams in one round, and almost a year after he stopped Frank Bruno in five. That is no determination that his skills dropped off, these were two fights after what was considered his best performance when he frightened Michael Spinks so bad they stopped the fight. The Douglas fight was in February of 1990.
Floyd Mayweather Jr was handled in sparring by Paul Spadafora in 2000, Muhammad Ali would also get beat up in sparring because he was lazy in training and BJ Flores knocked David Haye out cold in sparring. That's not a determinant that his skills were in decline, that was only made apparent when he got beat by Douglas. Sure, now we know he was partying like a mofo in Japan and was being lazy and all that, but if he KOd Douglas in three rounds, then what? We'd still think Tyson was in his prime, yes?
No, it would simply be a case of the inevitable being put off. Once again, that fight was the breaking point: the perfect storm of his training habits going down the tubes and an opponent who could expose his lack of conditioning and his over-reliance on trying to look for one punch KO's instead of breaking a guy down. He was physically at his peak because the guy was only 24 years old at the time, but the reality is that as a boxer he wasn't nearly at his best.
He claims it as much in "Tyson" the documentary, talking about how he got to a certain point and then basically gave up on training or continuing to keep his skills sharp.
Danny, at this point, we're comparing apples and oranges. I'm in agreement with you that he was well within his physical peak and that his skills and technique were still there, but as a boxer, he had seen better days. I mean, when you're not training and lack the kind of conditioning needed to go deep in a fight, you won't even be able to use your skills and abilities properly.
The day Tyson stopped training hard, the inevitable was on its way. It's simply that his athletic ability and fight night adrenaline were able to suffice in the Carl Williams and Bruno fights. Douglas of all people simply happened to be the participant during the perfect storm where Tyson's otherworldly athletic gifts couldn't make up for his lack of training.