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mgrover
I swear this is why I didn't want to reply, you take the literal things figurative and the figurative things literal
Cshel86
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mgrover
enjoying this are you Cshel lol
Cshel86
Guilty as charged! I raise my hand and bow my head...
BoxingFan86
Out of someone's frustration, the name-callin' will begin in 10... 9... 8... 7..., etc...
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 30 2011, 06:37 PM) *
I swear this is why I didn't want to reply, you take the literal things figurative and the figurative things literal

So you are saying my thinking is backwards? I guess. My response is what I see that you are trying to say so maybe your thinking is backwards or you are not conveying in an effective manner,


Shells really?
mgrover
nah am thinking pretty straight even with this amount of alcohol in me
Cshel86
QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 30 2011, 07:36 PM) *
this amount of alcohol in me


Ahhhh...dead giveaway laugh.gif
MaxPayne
Look, I think the major takeaway is that if a fight is close enough, then several things are in fact being left open to interpretation. I personally had Marquez winning by a round in the Pacquiao fight, but some of those rounds were so close that I can't really fault 2 of the judges for their scores.

Can you make an argument that Castillo beat Mayweather ? Sure. Can you also make a similarly valid counter-argument ? Of course you can.

The bottom line is that neither of the aforementioned fights were robberies. You let it get that close, and thereby you're allowing for the controversy.

This isn't what happened in Lara vs. Paul Williams, which was egregious, or some of the other insane decisions we've seen over the years.

People are entitled to think and say what they will, but let's talk about it like adults. The name calling isn't necessary fellas, we're all fans here.
mgrover
havent really seen any name calling but i pretty much agree with the post above. and cshel am sober i swear mann haha
Cshel86
QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 30 2011, 08:18 PM) *
havent really seen any name calling but i pretty much agree with the post above. and cshel am sober i swear mann haha


You aint you gotta prove it to me man laugh.gif Max you're right, but I dont mind a squabble or two, or three...who cares! Trust me, its been worse than this! Hell, Im not all that quick to shy away from a squabble. Like I told everybody earlier, I would be a fool to think that everybody is going to hold hands and sing Kumbaya nea.gif
MaxPayne
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 30 2011, 08:34 PM) *
You aint you gotta prove it to me man laugh.gif Max you're right, but I dont mind a squabble or two, or three...who cares! Trust me, its been worse than this! Hell, Im not all that quick to shy away from a squabble. Like I told everybody earlier, I would be a fool to think that everybody is going to hold hands and sing Kumbaya nea.gif


No doubt dude...I can only imagine what it's been like here over the last 2 years. I think that if a fight is signed, sealed and delivered contractually for May 5th between Manny and Floyd, the battle lines will be drawn again haha.
Cshel86
QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 30 2011, 09:51 PM) *
No doubt dude...I can only imagine what it's been like here over the last 2 years. I think that if a fight is signed, sealed and delivered contractually for May 5th between Manny and Floyd, the battle lines will be drawn again haha.


Oh yeah, thats a given. Im trying to chill with the Cortez-style moderating...I'll probably have to pick it back up around that time. As of now, straight Smoger style! laugh.gif
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 30 2011, 09:03 PM) *
Look, I think the major takeaway is that if a fight is close enough, then several things are in fact being left open to interpretation. I personally had Marquez winning by a round in the Pacquiao fight, but some of those rounds were so close that I can't really fault 2 of the judges for their scores.

Can you make an argument that Castillo beat Mayweather ? Sure. Can you also make a similarly valid counter-argument ? Of course you can.

The bottom line is that neither of the aforementioned fights were robberies. You let it get that close, and thereby you're allowing for the controversy.

This isn't what happened in Lara vs. Paul Williams, which was egregious, or some of the other insane decisions we've seen over the years.

People are entitled to think and say what they will, but let's talk about it like adults. The name calling isn't necessary fellas, we're all fans here.


+1
CrazyBuffalO
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 30 2011, 03:14 AM) *
Welcome back Buffalo! Glad to see ya in yet ANOTHER Mayweather thread laugh.gifI'd usually take this time to let you know that Im ignoring your posts, but you actually have some points this time around! ok.gif


Thanks. And why would you want to ignore my posts? I make intelligent posts (all if not most of the time). The only thing is I donít get much time to post these days. Sometimes I would post in one thread and I wouldnít have time to follow up on the responses. And then I would be back sometime later and thereíd be several other new threadsÖ and then I wouldnít know where to begin again. So again Iíd choose another Mayweather thread to participate in.
I wish I could make more posts and contribute more intelligence to the community. Of course Iíd post in Mayweather-threads. Iím a Floyd fan. Other fighters donít interest me much. I wish I could open up a Floyd fan club here or something. Although I wouldnít expect a lot of other fans out here (in this country that Iím in that is).

@ ALL
Thanks.
Cshel86
QUOTE (CrazyBuffalO @ Dec 1 2011, 09:38 AM) *
Of course Iíd post in Mayweather-threads. Iím a Floyd fan. Other fighters donít interest me much. I wish I could open up a Floyd fan club here or something.


Repeat that please. Your throat seems backed up and your words are coming out kinda funny. Maybe you should try removing Floyd's scro... nea.gif ...nevermind.
PColeman28
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Nov 30 2011, 03:33 PM) *
PCole I think Garret is the most overrated coach in the world. He screwed Wade Phillips by not opening up his playbook. Rivers is having a terrible seaon but I think after his two running backs left a lof of pressure was put on him and well he isn't doing too well. Norv Turner is a idoit for not punting against Denver. Why give them half a field. Plus because Denver won I have to listen to this bullcrap about "Tebow Magic." I am so tired of hearing about the most over overrated QB who has no skills. You see what happen when he played the Lions. He got owned.



I felt garret screwed phillips also to get the head coach job.....how is it that they were doing terrible then all of a sudden they start playing well when phillips left? garret screwed him big time....I love Rivers he's done a great job in san diego, but this year has been the worst season ever.....i wanted norv fired every season since we lost the AFC championship to the Patriots, he sucks as a head coach and our GM doesn't bring in enough talent these days we have 0 backups.....I hate Tim Tebow and all this hype he gets about being a winner this a winner that....he sucks big balls, no mechanics,can't read defenses, has no throwing power at all, no accuracy...but you know what's funny? michael vick had all these things, fast release, arm strength, but he caught hell every year until last year that he wasn't a pocket qb, but tim tebow gets praised for not being a pocket qb....hmmmm....interesting lol
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (PColeman28 @ Dec 1 2011, 01:53 PM) *
I felt garret screwed phillips also to get the head coach job.....how is it that they were doing terrible then all of a sudden they start playing well when phillips left? garret screwed him big time....I love Rivers he's done a great job in san diego, but this year has been the worst season ever.....i wanted norv fired every season since we lost the AFC championship to the Patriots, he sucks as a head coach and our GM doesn't bring in enough talent these days we have 0 backups.....I hate Tim Tebow and all this hype he gets about being a winner this a winner that....he sucks big balls, no mechanics,can't read defenses, has no throwing power at all, no accuracy...but you know what's funny? michael vick had all these things, fast release, arm strength, but he caught hell every year until last year that he wasn't a pocket qb, but tim tebow gets praised for not being a pocket qb....hmmmm....interesting lol


I love you (sorry CShels)...That Mike Vick thing! At Virgina Tech they were on him so tuff, they loved the fact that he could run outside of the pocket.... The moment he was drafted to Atlanta, everyone said that he needed to know how to stay in the pocket. This year he stayed in the pocket and now he is all banged up. Mike always had an arm, but he did his damage with his legs. Atlanta did not change the offense for him. The same with Vince Young and McNabb. They had arms but their strength was outside the pocket. The NFL has changed that QBs can't live in the pocket you need a mobile QB. Tim Hypo can't throw and isn't that damn fast. What he has is the all american I love the Lord thing going on. Hey, I am Christian and but I don't think you have beat people over the head with it. And from what people from Florida have told me is that it is an act. I could careless. I know one thing, the moment Denver plays a team that has a good defense and better offense it is over. They changed the entire offense for this kid, and he still sucks! Imagine if Vick had the offense that Frank Beamer gave him in the pros!!!! Rivers needs a great running back. Norv is a damn fool! And the defense is playing lack luster. Hopefully yawl can still make the playoffs.
PColeman28
Vick would of been a beast if they changed the offense for him,but only tebow gets special treatment, and atlanta never drafted any WR's for vick(roddy white was a rookie vick's last year there i think) not until he went to jail then they get Gonzalez draft julio jones but....I really hate Tebow, and to think that urban meyer thought he was better than cam newton....then cam transfered to a JC then got down in the SEC at auburn and is a way better qb in the nfl than slow freaking tebow.....we have to win these last 5 games and the raiders have to lose 3/5 for us to make it.....but as a fan i always have hope lol
Cshel86
Gee...I wonder what everybody thinks of Mayweather's logic. rolleyes_anim.gif Im sure we would all like to know, but thanks to Ms Allmenj... nea.gif ...nevermind, you're bound to repeat it anyway. Just when I stop with the Joe Cortez moderating, stuff like this happens dntknw.gif Question of the day...does FightHype happen to have a General Discussion section dntknw.gif

BoxingEinstein

The Mayweathers logic makes sense since they been around for a long time in the boxing circle and business. I'd rather listen to them than the likes of the others like Harold Lederman, Merchant and even sometimes Stewart when it comes to boxing knowledge and the business of it. Most people don't know shit about boxing about the fact why it was created. It was created for a way to allow soldiers in the confederate wars and civil wars in Boston and other states to release their aggression or to kill time. It was a mans game and you better had the balls to pick up the trash talk you may have laid. Those days it was fight till the man quits or until he is completely unconscious and unable to fight back at all.

Besides Floyd's annoying outburst about how Americans aren't behind him, Rogers hard to comprehend speeches, Floyd Sr.'s absurd statements I think the Mayweathers underneath all the ignorance and bullshit they are some very knowledgeable people who can teach you alot of about boxing and how to survive in the business aspect of it too.

I hope Floyd becomes a commentator since he's complaining (no matter how true) about the fact that boxing isn't as real as it used to be. Him being a commentator and bringing his own style plus first hand knowledge of boxing can make it better. Watching those old Mayweather vids with Smithy and him speaking on boxing showed that Floyd can talk well as long as its about boxing. He knows alot and I would hope HBO jumps at the chance of him being a commentator when he officially really retires.
PColeman28
My bad lol it did turn into a general discussion lol....but yea i think i'm done now
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (PColeman28 @ Dec 1 2011, 04:47 PM) *
Vick would of been a beast if they changed the offense for him,but only tebow gets special treatment, and atlanta never drafted any WR's for vick(roddy white was a rookie vick's last year there i think) not until he went to jail then they get Gonzalez draft julio jones but....I really hate Tebow, and to think that urban meyer thought he was better than cam newton....then cam transfered to a JC then got down in the SEC at auburn and is a way better qb in the nfl than slow freaking tebow.....we have to win these last 5 games and the raiders have to lose 3/5 for us to make it.....but as a fan i always have hope lol


Cam lit it up! Especially when he played in the Iron Bowl, that come back was legendary. Myer knew Newton was a better player than Tebow which is why he drove him away. Tebow and Myer have the same religious beliefs and well Myer didn't like Chris Leak either so that should tell you something. Tebow is all hype. I promise you this whole craze will end tragically. His teammates are even tire of hearing about how great he is when really it is the defense that plays the biggest part. Vick is a beast since the days of V Tech. Atlanta did not have the right coaches to coach his skill set.

Back to boxing. Mayweather thinks very highly of himself, he has to. The moment he thinks about someone being better than he, he already lost. So he has to be his biggest fan and cheerleader. Which is why he always have people around him telling him how great he is. The reason why he punked Ortiz into being introduced first eventhough Ortiz was the champion, is because he has to feel like no matter what he is king. A lot of what he does is psychological including asking for Manny to take the OSDT. Now he has put doubt in Pac's head, brillant.

QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 1 2011, 05:18 PM) *
Gee...I wonder what everybody thinks of Mayweather's logic. rolleyes_anim.gif Im sure we would all like to know, but thanks to Ms Allmenj... nea.gif ...nevermind, you're bound to repeat it anyway. Just when I stop with the Joe Cortez moderating, stuff like this happens dntknw.gif Question of the day...does FightHype happen to have a General Discussion section dntknw.gif



I am sorry Great Lord of All Moderators. Please forgive me my stupid rants about things that have nothing to do with boxing. Please forgive Master of All Cshels. I am not worthy... cray.gif
Cshel86
QUOTE (PColeman28 @ Dec 1 2011, 10:04 PM) *
My bad lol it did turn into a general discussion lol....but yea i think i'm done now


Its cool laugh.gif 70% boxing + 20% general stuff +10% back to boxing! It always works! Maweather loves money and he likes to bet on sports...you know...football and basketball...Michael Vick, Tom Brady, stuff like that. See how it works?
Cshel86
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Dec 1 2011, 10:20 PM) *
Cam lit it up! Especially when he played in the Iron Bowl, that come back was legendary. Myer knew Newton was a better player than Tebow which is why he drove him away. Tebow and Myer have the same religious beliefs and well Myer didn't like Chris Leak either so that should tell you something. Tebow is all hype. I promise you this whole craze will end tragically. His teammates are even tire of hearing about how great he is when really it is the defense that plays the biggest part. Vick is a beast since the days of V Tech. Atlanta did not have the right coaches to coach his skill set.

Back to boxing. Mayweather thinks very highly of himself, he has to. The moment he thinks about someone being better than he, he already lost. So he has to be his biggest fan and cheerleader. Which is why he always have people around him telling him how great he is. The reason why he punked Ortiz into being introduced first eventhough Ortiz was the champion, is because he has to feel like no matter what he is king. A lot of what he does is psychological including asking for Manny to take the OSDT. Now he has put doubt in Pac's head, brillant.

I am sorry Great Lord of All Moderators. Please forgive me my stupid rants about things that have nothing to do with boxing. Please forgive Master of All Cshels. I am not worthy... cray.gif


And again, you go off and do whatever you feel...SMH. What part dont you get? You're on the boooooxing threeeeead. Please find the General Discussion thread before I help you find "board message" when you try to log-in several times...nit-brain. Thanks! offtopic.gif
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