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Gambit808
Catching up with the latest fight news i recently read and thought I'd share this interviewing of former 2 Division World Champion Ricky "The Hitman" Hatton by BBC Manchester that sort of stood out. In that interview Hatton would talk about the lead up to his bout against (current) WBO Champion Manny Pacquiao where he would stress that he was "overtrained" and mentally not all there to the point where one sparring session would make that clear.

Check out this quote:

I had peaked too soon. Everyone in the camp could see I needed a rest. There was one day when one of my sparring partners knocked me on my backside. I came out of the ring, sat on the steps and put a towel over my head and I just started sobbing and crying.

Rumor has it that the sparring partner that he's reffering to may have been Cuban Junior Middleweight Erislandy Lara whom (for those who don't know) was the fighter who gave Paul "The Punisher" Williams all he could handle when they fought last year and in most peoples eyes actually did enough to deserve the decision win.
BrutalBodyShots
Blah... Hatton.
Cshel86
He was probably still traumatized from the Mayweather fight laugh.gif Seriously though, it seems as if most of these fighters that share the ring with big superstars, never seem to be the same when they come up short.

Either they're too young or they dont have the experience that they've promoted to have. I look at fighters like Vargas who stepped in the ring with Trinidad, and was never the same afterwards. I cant think of any more off the top of my head, but Hatton was another victim of stepping in the ring with a lighter light-years better than him.

He did all of that, just to exhaust his arsenal, have it used against him, and get knocked out over the course of 10 rounds. Im hoping that this doesn't happen to Bradley, but it truly ruins fighters.

bnoles4life
Hmmm...I don't know 'bout why he cried BEFORE the Pac fight, but I sure as hell know why he cried AFTERWARD.....
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 1 2012, 06:16 PM) *
. I cant think of any more off the top of my head, but Hatton was another victim of stepping in the ring with a lighter light-years better than him.


David Reid...good future, lazy 'lid and all...entered that fight like that fly ass girl from high school, going into her freshman year of college, only to returned as a turned out speed bump w/ bad grades. black eye.gif
BoxingStill#1
Guess Mayweather Sr. Was trying work the bitch out of him....

Oh well...

Hell,.. I kinda miss the coke sniffn baby...
daprofessor
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Mar 1 2012, 05:00 AM) *
Catching up with the latest fight news i recently read and thought I'd share this interviewing of former 2 Division World Champion Ricky "The Hitman" Hatton by BBC Manchester that sort of stood out. In that interview Hatton would talk about the lead up to his bout against (current) WBO Champion Manny Pacquiao where he would stress that he was "overtrained" and mentally not all there to the point where one sparring session would make that clear.

Check out this quote:

I had peaked too soon. Everyone in the camp could see I needed a rest. There was one day when one of my sparring partners knocked me on my backside. I came out of the ring, sat on the steps and put a towel over my head and I just started sobbing and crying.

Rumor has it that the sparring partner that he's reffering to may have been Cuban Junior Middleweight Erislandy Lara whom (for those who don't know) was the fighter who gave Paul "The Punisher" Williams all he could handle when they fought last year and in most peoples eyes actually did enough to deserve the decision win.


wrong. it was a southpaw lightweight with less than 10 fights. also...he was not allowed to gain more than 5lbs after the initial weigh in. roger mayweather mentioned it in an interview.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 1 2012, 06:16 PM) *
He was probably still traumatized from the Mayweather fight laugh.gif Seriously though, it seems as if most of these fighters that share the ring with big superstars, never seem to be the same when they come up short.

Either they're too young or they dont have the experience that they've promoted to have. I look at fighters like Vargas who stepped in the ring with Trinidad, and was never the same afterwards. I cant think of any more off the top of my head, but Hatton was another victim of stepping in the ring with a lighter light-years better than him.

He did all of that, just to exhaust his arsenal, have it used against him, and get knocked out over the course of 10 rounds. Im hoping that this doesn't happen to Bradley, but it truly ruins fighters.


it's got nothing to do with sharing the ring with superstars...and everything to do with how the body/mind is built. all it takes is one severe ass beating and any fighter will never be the same. it's very rare for any fighter to come back from a severe beating. that's what makes a guy like roberto duran so special. it's also what makes pac special too. it is even more rare thing for a fighter to come out of something like that and become a better fighter.
Cshel86
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 1 2012, 06:57 PM) *
entered that fight like that fly ass girl from high school, going into her freshman year of college, only to returned as a turned out speed bump w/ bad grades.

That pretty much sums it up laugh.gif

QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Mar 1 2012, 07:12 PM) *
Hell,.. I kinda miss the coke sniffn baby...

You and I both!

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 1 2012, 08:24 PM) *
he was not allowed to gain more than 5lbs after the initial weigh in. roger mayweather mentioned it in an interview.

If we are talking about the weight for the Hatton/Pacquiao fight, then you're wrong. Hatton rehydrated to 152 when he fought Manny. Now if he just didn't care, and fully rehydrated along with paying a fine, then I stand corrected. If Im totally off with what you're referring to, then I'll kindly STFU mellow.gif

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 1 2012, 08:27 PM) *
it's got nothing to do with sharing the ring with superstars...and everything to do with how the body/mind is built. all it takes is one severe ass beating and any fighter will never be the same. it's very rare for any fighter to come back from a severe beating. that's what makes a guy like roberto duran so special. it's also what makes pac special too. it is even more rare thing for a fighter to come out of something like that and become a better fighter.

I just made it a big deal to throw "superstars" in there, because thats what started Hatton's demise as a fighter. You're right though, all it takes is one severe beating by anybody. Duran did well with reviving his career after a terrible loss. As for Pac...who really witnessed him getting his slice of humble pie?

I mean seriously, it's not like he took those KO losses at the pinnacle of his career, and the apparent losses that he's taken as of late, get swept under the rug anyhow...some Im sure some folks have gotten a strong case of Pacnesia when it comes to his first two embarrassing losses.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 1 2012, 09:46 PM) *
If we are talking about the weight for the Hatton/Pacquiao fight, then you're wrong. Hatton rehydrated to 152 when he fought Manny. Now if he just didn't care, and fully rehydrated along with paying a fine, then I stand corrected. If Im totally off with what you're referring to, then I'll kindly STFU.


I just made it a big deal to throw "superstars" in there, because thats what started Hatton's demise as a fighter. You're right though, all it takes is one severe beating by anybody. Duran did well with reviving his career after a terrible loss. As for Pac...who really witnessed him getting his slice of humble pie?

I mean seriously, it's not like he took those KO losses at the pinnacle of his career, and the apparent losses that he's taken as of late, get swept under the rug anyhow...some Im sure some folks have gotten a strong case of Pacnesia when it comes to his first two embarrassing losses.


i don't know the particulars...but from my understanding...when they set limits on what a guy can weigh before he enters the ring, there is usually a second weigh in 24 hours after the first. what he gains prior to entering the ring is then checked by hbo's unofficial scale which i trust about as much as their punchstats and ledermans' scorecard. make what u will of it...but roger mayweather confirmed what i suspected all along with pac opponents and their weight.

i thought collazo started hattons demise. he dropped him in that last round but they didn't call it. i didn't witness pac's losses when they happened early in his career but i have seen video. he wasn't exactly wrecked...but still...coming back from ko losses isn't an easy thing.
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 1 2012, 08:55 PM) *
i don't know the particulars...but from my understanding...when they set limits on what a guy can weigh before he enters the ring, there is usually a second weigh in 24 hours after the first. what he gains prior to entering the ring is then checked by hbo's unofficial scale which i trust about as much as their punchstats and ledermans' scorecard. make what u will of it...but roger mayweather confirmed what i suspected all along with pac opponents and their weight.

i thought collazo started hattons demise. he dropped him in that last round but they didn't call it. i didn't witness pac's losses when they happened early in his career but i have seen video. he wasn't exactly wrecked...but still...coming back from ko losses isn't an easy thing.

Well yes, you do have a point about the next-day weigh-ins and the unofficial weigh-ins. Trust me, I dont doubt you for one second when you mention the rehydration stipulations made by Pac over the years...it surely wouldn't be the first time he and his team have done it.

Shame on me for not remembering how Collazo had Ricky bouncing from pillar to post in that last round, especially. As for Manny and his early losses, I saw those on video as well, but again, its easy to come back after losses that people try to forget about and make excuses for.
BrutalBodyShots
Reid's people knew they had to cash out him him when they threw him in there with Trinidad. I'm surprised the guy still fought a handful of times after that.

Vargas was actually on par with Trinidad talent wise. Trinidad's power just got to him. Yes he was young but he had some good fights leading up to Trinidad like Quartey, Wright, Campas. Despite having a horrible 1st round against Trinidad, Vargas actually did pretty well in the fight and it was closely contested until the end. Reminds me a little of Pacquiao/Marquez I, coming back from a horrible 1st round.

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