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Cshel86
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11950.html

According to Roach, the day that Mayweather and Pacquiao spoke (via phone) about the fight...he stated that Mayweather told him, "Manny, after boxing, I have nothing and you have everything".

Interesting...

Thoughts?

wolterb
I'm skeptical. I doubt anyone can relay that conversation verbatim and the few that can has serious bias to consider
CauzinRuckus
[size="4"]Some bullshit roach is a joke . he was just talking bout how they might have to give in to mayweathers demands , but i'm sure uncle bob is gonna have that fixed. Floyd will be apart of boxing making money. i mean damn he does have his own promotion, they aint got dat. they say the dumbest shit while they are being exposed
Allmenjoi8
I call bullshit on Roach. Roach is a worse flip flopper than Mitt Romney. He said Mayweather offered him 400,000K! It is crap. He just needs to stop talking. First he said Bradley wasn't a challenge now all of the sudden he is a threat. Then he said that after their fight they may have to take less! Sush!
mgrover
either way you see it he has a point, yes he is talking some bullshit, but I wonder how it Mayweather will take retirement, it was obvious he couldn't stay away from boxing and craved the attention, will he ever truly retire? I mean his skills will allow him to fight into his later years I think since he doesn't really get into wars, while MP has the whole being a congress blah blah blah after boxing. But it also would seem like bullshit cause that almost sounds like sincerity and when the hells Mayweather ever been sincere, seems like a plea.
BigFightFan
Did roach have a few drinks at that restaurant? I think both of these guys will have to manage their money after boxing to survive.
pimpfighterROQ
LOL I really doubt Mayweather would EVEN say that to Pacquiao over the phone LOL. Plus if it was true, you can bet your ass Pacquiao would spill the rice to Filipino reporters. Once again, Roach your bullshitting...
Hotsauce
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Mar 9 2012, 10:31 PM) *
I call bullshit on Roach. Roach is a worse flip flopper than Mitt Romney. He said Mayweather offered him 400,000K! It is crap. He just needs to stop talking. First he said Bradley wasn't a challenge now all of the sudden he is a threat. Then he said that after their fight they may have to take less! Sush!


i thought it was 40 million?


wasn't that confirmed from both sides?
Archimedes
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 9 2012, 06:08 PM) *
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11950.html

According to Roach, the day that Mayweather and Pacquiao spoke (via phone) about the fight...he stated that Mayweather told him, "Manny, after boxing, I have nothing and you have everything".

Interesting...

Thoughts?


Hmmmmm, the first thing I thought when I read this was "damage control." A statement like this completely lacks authenticity because we all know Floyd Mayweather and are intimately familiar with his ego. I couldn't imagine a scenario like Roach's even if were high. But in the end, as smokes screens go this one seems pretty desperate. We have in a statement a docile kind of contriteness the Anti-Mayweather camp has wanted in the form of a beating. It almost seems like a pathetic attempt to appease Pacquiao’s mod of mindless followers that when they talked Floyd was humble and respectful to your god. To me, this smacks of naked acceptance that a segment of Pacquiao's following has little connection to reality.

The pertinent question should be to the average observer, does Roach's scenario seem plausible?
checkleft
Roach is/has always been full of shit. Honestly the most overrated trainer of my lifetime. He says shit like manny and mayweathers best challenging is Khan when Khan is barely surviving and literally running from guys like maidana and Peterson. He's flipped his script so many times

But honestly I can't see either fighter staying out of trouble after their boxing careers. Mayweather could be a trainer like his father and uncles, god knows he was the intelligence and gifts for it so he could settle down. And for some reason I see manny getting into some governors Arnold type scandals or probably worse. The only diff is mayweathers will be amplified and mannys swept under the rug as long as its possible.
BoxingFan86
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Mar 9 2012, 11:37 PM) *
i thought it was 40 million?


wasn't that confirmed from both sides?

Of course it was confirmed by both sides. That's 1 of the reasons why people are sayin', "Roach is bull-shittin' the public." He may've meant to say 40 million, but he said 400,000 instead.
leonthegee
Everytime anybody from Team Pacquiao mentions Floyds name they sound like bitches. They should just keep Floyds name out of their mouth. But it would be hard to piggy back off of Floyds name without a little name dropping.
Cheesey1
Agreed with the comments that this smacks of damage control and that Roach's credibility, IMO, is on par with the average Pactard's at this point. Haha "$400,000." Even the Bobfather wouldn't say something so blatantly ridiculous...wait he just might.

I'm going to be following the VQ and Philippines tax litigation the same way that some people were following the trial of wacko-jacko's poor doctor.
Allmenjoi8
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 10 2012, 10:43 AM) *
Agreed with the comments that this smacks of damage control and that Roach's credibility, IMO, is on par with the average Pactard's at this point. Haha "$400,000." Even the Bobfather wouldn't say something so blatantly ridiculous...wait he just might.

QUOTE
I'm going to be following the VQ and Philippines tax litigation the same way that some people were following the trial of wacko-jacko's poor doctor.



Too soon bro. lol.


It is damage control. Pac is getting in trouble with taxes. His house of cards are falling. He is known to have money trouble. I think Floyd will be more relevant retired. He has a bunch of young fighters in his gym and imagine all the people will be begging him to be in their corner. And his promotional gig. Mayweather has a lot going for him. And it seems his money is in order. Funny how ESPN always says Mayweather wants easier bouts because he is in trouble with taxes and low on funds ironically there was no mention about Pacquiao's tax issues. The media picks their heroes and villains.
Thickback
Roach is a dumb ass.
mgrover
i hardly think you can call the man a dumbass
duwdu
QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 9 2012, 10:40 PM) *
either way you see it he has a point, yes he is talking some bullshit, but I wonder how it Mayweather will take retirement, it was obvious he couldn't stay away from boxing and craved the attention, will he ever truly retire? I mean his skills will allow him to fight into his later years I think since he doesn't really get into wars, while MP has the whole being a congress blah blah blah after boxing. But it also would seem like bullshit cause that almost sounds like sincerity and when the hells Mayweather ever been sincere, seems like a plea.


W.r.t. Mayweather going into that "retirement," I honestly didn't think he was actually retiring. In my view, he was already aware of the need to self-preserve and allow his body to re-build, which was smart. Secondly, he was just being a student of the game by learning to do even better what some of those greats before him had done, including more recently SRL.

Mayweather is too egoistic to blab out such weakness (as insinuated by Roach) to anyone at this stage of his career. Besides, with the happenings in the last couple of years, he is genuinely on top of his game, especially when it comes to his timing as to when to do what in his boxing career.

As for Roach, I think such trash talking behavior could result from a combination of his incoherency and the need for damage control during these trying times.

P34c3
duwdu
QUOTE (Archimedes @ Mar 10 2012, 01:01 AM) *
Hmmmmm, the first thing I thought when I read this was "damage control." A statement like this completely lacks authenticity because we all know Floyd Mayweather and are intimately familiar with his ego. I couldn't imagine a scenario like Roach's even if were high. But in the end, as smokes screens go this one seems pretty desperate. We have in a statement a docile kind of contriteness the Anti-Mayweather camp has wanted in the form of a beating. It almost seems like a pathetic attempt to appease Pacquiao’s mod of mindless followers that when they talked Floyd was humble and respectful to your god. To me, this smacks of naked acceptance that a segment of Pacquiao's following has little connection to reality.

The pertinent question should be to the average observer, does Roach's scenario seem plausible?


You're spot on in my book Archimedes, more so with the bolded part.

P34c3
mrchitown
Roach has had it in for Floyd since 07 when Floyd schooled De la Hoya. I believe he's just spewing some bullshit here because from all previous accounts, he wasn't even around Manny at any time when these conversations took place. And I just find it hard to believe that Floyd would even say some shit like that to Manny. If those words were said, best believe it would've been blown up and over-anaylized a million times by now
un01
i think floyd could of said something similar to that, but i doubt he uttered the words "you have everything, i dont". most likely he told manny he can not give him a 50/50 split, cause he makes all his money in the ring, and doesnt get outside endorsements.

most likely roach is over exaggerating words that were said between floyd and manny
Run and Gun Game Calls
QUOTE (un01 @ Mar 11 2012, 05:48 AM) *
i think floyd could of said something similar to that, but i doubt he uttered the words "you have everything, i dont". most likely he told manny he can not give him a 50/50 split, cause he makes all his money in the ring, and doesnt get outside endorsements.

most likely roach is over exaggerating words that were said between floyd and manny



+1
Franchize


This picture alone nullifies Roach's argument!
Franchize
Sorry. I dont know why that posted 3 times.N I dont know how to delete it. My apologies
Cshel86
No apologies needed Franchize...at least it wasn't a bullshit post! laugh.gif
Cheesey1
QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Mar 10 2012, 11:03 AM) *
Too soon bro. lol.


It is damage control. Pac is getting in trouble with taxes. His house of cards are falling. He is known to have money trouble. I think Floyd will be more relevant retired. He has a bunch of young fighters in his gym and imagine all the people will be begging him to be in their corner. And his promotional gig. Mayweather has a lot going for him. And it seems his money is in order. Funny how ESPN always says Mayweather wants easier bouts because he is in trouble with taxes and low on funds ironically there was no mention about Pacquiao's tax issues. The media picks their heroes and villains.

I thought about getting a Philippino channel in the hopes that they'd cover it 24-7, but then I thought "duh, that's the saint, they won't air his dirty laundry like that." They do air some of his dirty laundry, but not the way that the E channel (CNN too) could do it.
I then went to VisionQuest's website in the hopes of an update and irony at it's best, their address is "1900 N. Last Chance Gulch.." Obviously the Saint didn't heed the warning.
Cheesey1
QUOTE (Franchize @ Mar 12 2012, 10:34 AM) *


This picture alone nullifies Roach's argument!

Yup.
BoxingEinstein
QUOTE (Franchize @ Mar 12 2012, 10:34 AM) *


This picture alone nullifies Roach's argument!


Mayweather FTW!! And Pacman and Roach FTL!! LOL
Cshel86
Im still trying to see how Mayweather will "have nothing" after he retires, and Manny will have "everything". I mean shit, Manny isn't even seeing all of his money now, so how much will he see after he retires, because those "big checks" WILL stop coming, as history has shown us.

Im just happy that Floyd's being an asshole about his money now, because NOBODY will do that for him after he retires...same goes for Manny
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