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Cshel86
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Obviously Shane's going to go for the knockout, and Im sure Canelo wants to do the same. Oscar's putting Canelo in there with Shane to make sure he leaves the sport for good. Shane's ready to shit on ALL plans!

WAR MOSLEY!!!!

Anybody else excited about this fight?

*No bitches allowed*
leonthegee
I just hope Shane comes to fight. Hes got a bad as bitch on his arm and he needs them checks. Shes in her early 20s and hes gonna have to keep earning. So if he pulls another snooze fest he may never get an HBO fight again. I always root for Shane because hes from Pomona, which is the next town over, and I used to always see him at the 24hr. fitness center back in 2007. So just come to fight and who care if you get stopped. Theres Thomas Dulorme and others like that whos promoters would love to stick their fighters in with a has been. Shane could be that has been.

daprofessor
shane is speaking with supreme confidence....unfortunately, he did the same when he fought pac. i'm hoping he has something left and i would love nothing more but for him to upset the chosen one. but from what i see of the footage....nothing has changed. he doesn't look any faster or sharper....his technique still looks the same. i'll be rooting for shane...but this isn't like the margarito fight where i knew tony was softened up by cotto and i knew shane would win. canelo is a young gun who is not as slow, shop worn or as easy to hit as margarito. he also has decent speed and power. i hope shane makes a fight of it.
Jack 1000
Not convinced,

I think Mosley shows up for a payday. And the only reason he looked good against "Margacheato" is because "Cheato" didn't have his plaster hands. The only question is, will Alvarez be the first to stop Mosley? He "played nice" after the 2nd round against Mayweather, and has been too nice in recent years. The best Mosley was in his days as Lightweight Champion and including Delahoya I.

Jack
mgrover
can't see him doing much, but there's always that chance.
BoxingFan86
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Apr 13 2012, 04:41 PM) *
Not convinced,

I think Mosley shows up for a payday. And the only reason he looked good against "Margacheato" is because "Cheato" didn't have his plaster hands. The only question is, will Alvarez be the first to stop Mosley? He "played nice" after the 2nd round against Mayweather, and has been too nice in recent years. The best Mosley was in his days as Lightweight Champion and including Delahoya I.

Jack

Enough said, case closed.

***Curtains***
daprofessor
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Apr 13 2012, 04:41 PM) *
Not convinced,

I think Mosley shows up for a payday. And the only reason he looked good against "Margacheato" is because "Cheato" didn't have his plaster hands. The only question is, will Alvarez be the first to stop Mosley? He "played nice" after the 2nd round against Mayweather, and has been too nice in recent years. The best Mosley was in his days as Lightweight Champion and including Delahoya I.

Jack


there were rumors before the fight that margarito had a bad back and bad eye. those injuries were the result of the cotto fight imo. i'm sure getting busted trying to cheat played a part too...
Cshel86
Man yall are smokin' liquid crack! laugh.gif Shane is gonna pull this one off! Canelo can and will be hit on May 5th. Of course, he's supposed to talk smack before a fight, but the only time I was convinced was before the Manny fight.

I think we've all made it clear that he didn't look good against the 1A and 1B fighters in the sport...who does? Not many. As for the Margarito fight...he was there to be hit, nuff said. I highly doubt that Cotto softened Margarito up, if anything, Miguel did more damage to himself in that fight.

I believe Cotto was given too much credit in that fight anyway, and most of it was based off of sympathy AFTER the handwrap scandal surfaced. All I remember hearing and also saying was, "Cotto clearly won the first 6 rounds, then Margarito took over from that point on".

Fact is, Cotto was getting hit the WHOLE time, and was beginning to get busted up in the second round. Loaded wraps or not, he was still getting touched and cornered/walk down.

As for Shane and Canelo...Mosley is the most dangerous "past prime" fighter that he's fought to date. We saw J. Cotto hurt him, Baldomir caught him, Hatton was able to take his punches, and the shot Cintron had his ass in check with that right hand that he was oh so reluctant to throw...let's not forget how he ate jabs in that fight. Im sure Mosley is a guy that can equally do what's already been done to Canelo, but he surely can finish it.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 13 2012, 06:30 PM) *
Man yall are smokin' liquid crack! laugh.gif Shane is gonna pull this one off! Canelo can and will be hit on May 5th. Of course, he's supposed to talk smack before a fight, but the only time I was convinced was before the Manny fight.

I think we've all made it clear that he didn't look good against the 1A and 1B fighters in the sport...who does? Not many. As for the Margarito fight...he was there to be hit, nuff said. I highly doubt that Cotto softened Margarito up, if anything, Miguel did more damage to himself in that fight.

I believe Cotto was given too much credit in that fight anyway, and most of it was based off of sympathy AFTER the handwrap scandal surfaced. All I remember hearing and also saying was, "Cotto clearly won the first 6 rounds, then Margarito took over from that point on".

Fact is, Cotto was getting hit the WHOLE time, and was beginning to get busted up in the second round. Loaded wraps or not, he was still getting touched and cornered/walk down.

As for Shane and Canelo...Mosley is the most dangerous "past prime" fighter that he's fought to date. We saw J. Cotto hurt him, Baldomir caught him, Hatton was able to take his punches, and the shot Cintron had is ass in check with that right hand that he was oh so reluctant to throw...let's forget how he ate jabs in that fight. Im sure Mosley is a guy that can equally do what's already been done to Canelo, but he surely can finish it.


first off...i love ur faith in shane. laugh.gif and ur right...there's no shame in losing to floyd or pac.

as for the cotto/marg fight (1st one)...cotto had margarito's head twisting like the exorcist and had him more busted up than i could recall seeing in any of his fights. ur right...margarito was landing shots....and loaded wraps or not...cotto fought the wrong fight...giving up ground to margarito, and pulling back into his windmill shots. in the 2nd fight...cotto did a much better job of staying off the ropes and didn't give margarito much opportunity. i know everyone thought the fight was playing out like the 1st one..but that's not my opinion. margarito did nothing to take steam out of cotto and was taking far more damage than he did in the first fight. sure cotto was a little winded...but every time margarito appeared to have cotto where he wanted him..cotto did a great job of stepping into the eye of the storm and forcing margarito back. something i said he had to do to win before the first fight.

as for canelo...u could contribute fighting at a weight that wasn't natural to him as the reason jose cotto was able to rock him. u are right....he was hit by slower, softer punching guys...i'd love to see shane pull it off, but i don't have the same confidence in him that u do. laugh.gif
Cheesey1
I'm definitely looking forward to it. I expect Canelo to win. I think that it'll go the distance.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 13 2012, 05:30 PM) *
I think we've all made it clear that he didn't look good against the 1A and 1B fighters in the sport...who does? t.


I don't have an issue w/ him vs. May...I mean he came to fight. However, that display vs. Pac was less about Pac and more about him. I like Shane and always have, but I fear if he can't buzz and get Canelo out early, it may be hard to watch.

FYI: He's in the ring w/ GBP's "Golden Egg", that right there, tells you what Shane is perceived to have left.
Cshel86
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 13 2012, 07:42 PM) *
FYI: He's in the ring w/ GBP's "Golden Egg", that right there, tells you what Shane is perceived to have left.

And how many times has Oscar been right about matchups? He's ate his words more than ever on a few occasions...
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 13 2012, 06:57 PM) *
first off...i love ur faith in shane. laugh.gif and ur right...there's no shame in losing to floyd or pac.

as for the cotto/marg fight (1st one)...cotto had margarito's head twisting like the exorcist and had him more busted up than i could recall seeing in any of his fights. ur right...margarito was landing shots....and loaded wraps or not...cotto fought the wrong fight...giving up ground to margarito, and pulling back into his windmill shots. in the 2nd fight...cotto did a much better job of staying off the ropes and didn't give margarito much opportunity. i know everyone thought the fight was playing out like the 1st one..but that's not my opinion. margarito did nothing to take steam out of cotto and was taking far more damage than he did in the first fight. sure cotto was a little winded...but every time margarito appeared to have cotto where he wanted him..cotto did a great job of stepping into the eye of the storm and forcing margarito back. something i said he had to do to win before the first fight.

as for canelo...u could contribute fighting at a weight that wasn't natural to him as the reason jose cotto was able to rock him. u are right....he was hit by slower, softer punching guys...i'd love to see shane pull it off, but i don't have the same confidence in him that u do. laugh.gif

No Professor...it's "newly found" faith in Shane...and thou shall never have this faith again, in event that Mosley comes up short. You gotta admit though, having 3rd and 4th wind of confidence for a fighter is cool! laugh.gif

As for that first fight, you're right, Cotto fought the wrong fight, and he only made small adjustments in the rematch. Surely Margs thought Cotto was fighting the same fight as the first, which is why I think he (Margarito) didn't sweat the punches that Miguel was landing.

Henstly, the damage done to Margs in the second fight was solely focused on the eye, so when Miguel landed, I feel that it appeared that he was doing more damage. Cotto just did himself a favor and made those adjustments. Funny thing is, his face was messed up as well, at the time of the stoppage.

Canelo will indeed have his hands full, and we all know that Shane is always first when he's fighting a guy lesser than him. Anytime he attempted to be first in a fight with a guy who had skill, we all saw that went.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 13 2012, 06:58 PM) *
And how many times has Oscar been [i]right about matchups? He's ate his words more than ever on a few occasions...
[/i]


True story. However, what common denominator (think: fighter) did those failed predictions often possess?
Allmenjoi8
As Fox Mulder's poster read "I want to believe" in the X-Files series, I want to believe Shane, I really do. But if history is the judge of things present and future well then he is going to either run the entire time while smiling or he will just get his ass kicked for 9 rounds straight. As I read the article two things came to mind: 1. his confidence is high 2. he really believes that he is going to win. The fact that Shane feels better at 154 gives me hope but then again I go back to Pacquiao, Mora, and Mayweather. Given two of those fighters are fighting at a high level but Mora? Really? I want to believe that Sugar will be the main ingredient for the fight and not Cinnamon. I want to believe that the Shane of Margarito will show up. I want to believe that he still has something left but I also use to believe in Santa... Shane I have money on you please do not disappoint.... dntknw.gif My bold fight prediction (yes it is because I have money on Shane) 8th round knockout to Sugar Shane.
sduck
I see it going the distance, Canelo wins. Shane might not even come to fight, might just want a payday.

QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Apr 13 2012, 04:41 PM) *
Not convinced,

I think Mosley shows up for a payday. And the only reason he looked good against "Margacheato" is because "Cheato" didn't have his plaster hands. The only question is, will Alvarez be the first to stop Mosley? He "played nice" after the 2nd round against Mayweather, and has been too nice in recent years. The best Mosley was in his days as Lightweight Champion and including Delahoya I.

Jack

I think I'm always going to disagree with that.
Cshel86
QUOTE (sduck @ Apr 13 2012, 09:02 PM) *
I see it going the distance, Canelo wins. Shane might not even come to fight, might just want a payday.


I think I'm always going to disagree with that.

As a paying customer of this card, I want to believe that it's going to be a fight. Shane has plans to fight Margarito and Cotto again, so he still has something to look forward to. Not that Canelo doesn't have something to look forward to as well, but Shane does...with NOTHING to lose....cant say the same about Canelo.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 13 2012, 08:05 PM) *
As a paying customer of this card,



You'd better, streeeeeeeaaaaaaam. Stream, stream, stream.
Cshel86
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 13 2012, 09:13 PM) *
You'd better, streeeeeeeaaaaaaam. Stream, stream, stream.

Too late man. I ALWAYS have fight parties at my house, if not, Im always telling somebody about a fight that watched over the weekend. So...my house has become the designated spot to watch fights.

*Warning*: I ONLY have people over here that somewhat understand contact sports, not the ones that "Oooh" and "Ahh" at every punch that doesn't even land!
BigDDatHomey
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 13 2012, 09:17 PM) *
Too late man. I ALWAYS have fight parties at my house, if not, Im always telling somebody about a fight that watched over the weekend. So...my house has become the designated spot to watch fights.

*Warning*: I ONLY have people over here that somewhat understand contact sports, not the ones that "Oooh" and "Ahh" at every punch that doesn't even land!


Cool. I'm tryin to come through.
iKeNjiro
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 14 2012, 07:30 AM) *
Man yall are smokin' liquid crack! laugh.gif Shane is gonna pull this one off! Canelo can and will be hit on May 5th. Of course, he's supposed to talk smack before a fight, but the only time I was convinced was before the Manny fight.

I think we've all made it clear that he didn't look good against the 1A and 1B fighters in the sport...who does? Not many. As for the Margarito fight...he was there to be hit, nuff said. I highly doubt that Cotto softened Margarito up, if anything, Miguel did more damage to himself in that fight.

I believe Cotto was given too much credit in that fight anyway, and most of it was based off of sympathy AFTER the handwrap scandal surfaced. All I remember hearing and also saying was, "Cotto clearly won the first 6 rounds, then Margarito took over from that point on".

Fact is, Cotto was getting hit the WHOLE time, and was beginning to get busted up in the second round. Loaded wraps or not, he was still getting touched and cornered/walk down.

As for Shane and Canelo...Mosley is the most dangerous "past prime" fighter that he's fought to date. We saw J. Cotto hurt him, Baldomir caught him, Hatton was able to take his punches, and the shot Cintron had his ass in check with that right hand that he was oh so reluctant to throw...let's not forget how he ate jabs in that fight. Im sure Mosley is a guy that can equally do what's already been done to Canelo, but he surely can finish it.



spot on, spot freaking on
+1 man great post
totally agree with all of the above
Jack 1000
I thought Shane beat Cotto by a point. I forgot when I posted above that he looked good in that fight.

Jack
Cshel86
Does anyone feel that Canelo's been tested at this point of his career? Does anybody view Shane as a real challenge, or just another corpse for Canelo?
BoxingFan86
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 14 2012, 11:56 AM) *
Does anyone feel that Canelo's been tested at this point of his career? Does anybody view Shane as a real challenge, or just another corpse for Canelo?

Tested? Not really. Is Shane a real challenge? Nah, not really. He may give Canelo trouble in the "feelin' out" stages of the fight, but he doesn't pose a real threat. I think he'll keep us entertained for 2 or 3 rounds, then he'll go into survival mode. Personally, I think Shane will be there to collect a check, but he's a good (manipulative) actor, 'cause he's good at convincin' people otherwise. If you would've asked this question a few years ago, my answer would've been, "yes." You'll prob disagree, since you're a payin' customer of this card laugh.gif. Don't worry, we've all been there.
Cshel86
QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Apr 14 2012, 12:47 PM) *
Tested? Not really. Is Shane a real challenge? Nah, not really. He may give Canelo trouble in the "feelin' out" stages of the fight, but he doesn't pose a real threat. I think he'll keep us entertained for 2 or 3 rounds, then he'll go into survival mode. Personally, I think Shane will be there to collect a check, but he's a good (manipulative) actor, 'cause he's good at convincin' people otherwise. If you would've asked this question a few years ago, my answer would've been, "yes." You'll prob disagree, since you're a payin' customer of this card laugh.gif. Don't worry, we've all been there.

Even if he gives Canelo trouble early in the fight and doesn't finish, then we ALL know that Mosley knows how to survive if things get rough. He made Pacquiao look bad because he couldn't find a way to cut off the ring and stop Shane.

Shane could possibly leave more questions than answers in regards to Canelo's "progressing" skill level, if Shane's able to survive and make it to the final bell. As a "paying customer", Im hoping for a stoppage...but it may not be Shane though! laugh.gif
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 13 2012, 08:17 PM) *
Too late man. I ALWAYS have fight parties at my house, if not, Im always telling somebody about a fight that watched over the weekend. So...my house has become the designated spot to watch fights.

*Warning*: I ONLY have people over here that somewhat understand contact sports, not the ones that "Oooh" and "Ahh" at every punch that doesn't even land!



I may have to make that trek over to the ATL for the May 5th gala. Can a bruh get "two hots and a cot"?
Cshel86
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 14 2012, 07:56 PM) *
I may have to make that trek over to the ATL for the May 5th gala. Can a bruh get "two hots and a cot"?

Shiiiiit...I dont mind! laugh.gif With events like this, Im usually too inebriated to make good decisions anyway, so everyone gets a 'yes' in the meantime.
Franchize
Shane is slowly becoming Stevie Forbes. Not good enuff to win anymore but still skilled enough to make you look bad. Kinda like Ishe Smith
Cshel86
QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 14 2012, 09:26 PM) *
Shane is slowly becoming Stevie Forbes. Not good enuff to win anymore but still skilled enough to make you look bad. Kinda like Ishe Smith

laugh.gif

At least he's still getting tv dates...
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 14 2012, 07:01 PM) *
Shiiiiit...I dont mind! laugh.gif With events like this, Im usually too inebriated to make good decisions anyway, so everyone gets a 'yes' in the meantime.



That's the "confirmation" I get, Shely? Daanng!!!!!! That being said, I may have to make that 2.5 hr trek to ATL....I'll bring you a liter of Soju...deal?
Cshel86
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 15 2012, 12:03 PM) *
That's the "confirmation" I get, Shely? Daanng!!!!!! That being said, I may have to make that 2.5 hr trek to ATL....I'll bring you a liter of Soju...deal?

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