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Cheesey1
QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 28 2012, 11:56 PM) *
OOPs!!! Was he supposed to say Andre Wards name on HBO??

I didn't even think of that, but there seemed to be some awkwardness after he said that.
mgrover
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 29 2012, 04:59 AM) *
laugh.gif

It was funny as hell how you checked that dude..."Oh and it's fuckin mg rover". Classic!


You've been officially warned sir...laugh.gif


i wanted to see what hopkins had to say, but i guess no interview from him
Franchize
I lost a lot of respect for Bernard. Dude you clearly lost. Give Chad his props and be a professional. Spare us the "look at my face and his" excuse. He has cuts from your blatant dirty tactics. Butts, hitting and holding, leaning on his neck...the whole arsenal.
Cshel86
QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Apr 28 2012, 11:55 PM) *
Please refer to my first post page 1.

....... now back to this jack...gn

Drink up my brotha!

QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 29 2012, 12:00 AM) *
i wanted to see what hopkins had to say, but i guess no interview from him

Tell me about it. Dude is acting like a straight biatch. He lost and he knew it...guess he couldn't take it.

QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 29 2012, 12:00 AM) *
I lost a lot of respect for Bernard. Dude you clearly lost. Give Chad his props and be a professional. Spare us the "look at my face and his" excuse. He has cuts from your blatant dirty tactics. Butts, hitting and holding, leaning on his neck...the whole arsenal.

Yeps...I still think the first butt (that caused the cut) was a bit accidental, but that's just me.
The Original MrFactor
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Apr 28 2012, 11:59 PM) *
I didn't even think of that, but there seemed to be some awkwardness after he said that.



Yeah, Max didn't know hoe to respond. LOL!
BoxingStill#1
QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 28 2012, 11:00 PM) *
I lost a lot of respect for Bernard. Dude you clearly lost. Give Chad his props and be a professional. Spare us the "look at my face and his" excuse. He has cuts from your blatant dirty tactics. Butts, hitting and holding, leaning on his neck...the whole arsenal.


Yea he really pulled it all out the hat tonight night didnt he?
sduck
Bernard is a sore loser but Dawson put up a hell of a fight tonight. He usually would of gave the fight up but he stayed motivated and strong to pull off the win. Great motivation from his trainer too, "this is your moment!"

I like Seth Mitchell's spirit, but man he should stay away from the Klitschkos if he knows whats good for him.
Cshel86
Where's Cheesey? Looks like his old lady has him in the headlock because he missed his bedtime cool.gif
mgrover
question is what now for Hopkins, I doubt he'll retire, but obviously can't beat Dawson, there's Cloud, who's too inexperienced to fight Hopkins after his last fight, and then there's Cleverly. I haven't seen enough of Cleverly really so I can't comment on how that might go, and the obvious Pascal but nobody want's to see that fight again.
Cshel86
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 29 2012, 12:17 AM) *
question is what now for Hopkins, I doubt he'll retire, but obviously can't beat Dawson, there's Cloud, who's too inexperienced to fight Hopkins after his last fight, and then there's Cleverly. I haven't seen enough of Cleverly really so I can't comment on how that might go, and the obvious Pascal but nobody want's to see that fight again.

I believe if Cloud runs through Pascal, then we will see him in the ring with Bernard. I believe Chad is looking for a Pascal rematch, regardless of what he said in the post-fight interview.

I would like to see Hopkins fight Cleverly, but we have to see what Cleverly does in the near future. As for Chad, he has the winning hand, so he can fight whoever...unless "whoever" can give two shits about a title belt.

Franchize
You could see the excuses coming. Before the decision, he was saying to someone ringside "they might give him the decision because they want me out of the sport." I think Bernard should fight Cloud. Either itll retire him or it will be karma for the Campillo decision.
The Original MrFactor
QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 29 2012, 12:43 AM) *
You could see the excuses coming. Before the decision, he was saying to someone ringside "they might give him the decision because they want me out of the sport." I think Bernard should fight Cloud. Either itll retire him or it will be karma for the Campillo decision.



Maybe Bernard should fight Campillo.
MRxHBOxHIMSELF
QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 29 2012, 12:00 AM) *
I lost a lot of respect for Bernard. Dude you clearly lost. Give Chad his props and be a professional. Spare us the "look at my face and his" excuse. He has cuts from your blatant dirty tactics. Butts, hitting and holding, leaning on his neck...the whole arsenal.


LOL AMEN
mitukczuk
Watching the fight right now. Maybe I am seeing things but after 4 rounds I got it even. But that's probably because the vid is in terrible quality. For those of you who haven't seen the fight, it's up on YT.

As for the ring girls...one long DAAAAAAAMN!

5th round Dawson, clearly. Landed nice combo on the ropes at the begining of the round and did all the work that round. Hated the acting of Hopkins at the end when he went through the ropes biggrin.gif Ridiculous...48 - 47 Chad
6th round Dawson. B-Hop doesn't throw.
7th round Dawson as well. Same as in 6th. B-Hop doesn't give the judges too much to think about. 68 - 65 Chad
8th round Dawson. His best round imo. Landed a nice right hook at the beginning. Bhop landed a nice left hook. But Dawson did more towards the end - nice uppercut. 78 - 74 Chad
9th round Dawson. Not much happened but dawson edged it out with a combo on the ropes towards the end of the round. 88 - 83 Chad
10th round Dawson. Hopkins is clearly trying to do him dirty now. Standard round. 98 - 93 Chad
11th round Dawson. B-Hop is having some moments there, but I liked Chad more in that round. 108 - 102
12th round I got it even.

118 - 112 final scores. Chad won it, but I was expecting him to be a bit more agressive. I wish he would have used his athletic ability more. But all in all, a good, focused, "man on the mission" kind of performance. Big props to Rafael Garcia, he did a great work on those cuts.

As for B-Hop it's hard to say what is next for him. He is not done in my eyes, he still has a bit in the tank, but I'd like to see him retire as he got nothing to prove to anyone. As Max Kellerman pointed out, his body finally looks to be wearing out. I noticed it during the weigh-in but it was even more visible during the fight. Not that Bernard ever had a big muscle definition but it seems to be going...

Surprisingly good fight.
xxxxxx
The fight went as I thought it would. Dawson winning clearly with a tight scorecard. Hopkins has had a great career however and could still compete at a high level even right now.
BigDDatHomey
QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Apr 29 2012, 10:00 AM) *
The fight went as I thought it would. Dawson winning clearly with a tight scorecard. Hopkins has had a great career however and could still compete at a high level even right now.


I DOSED OFF
Cheesey1
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 29 2012, 12:08 AM) *
Where's Cheesey? Looks like his old lady has him in the headlock because he missed his bedtime cool.gif


Hey man, I've got to pick my battles. Life has taught me a thing or two...

They say that elephants don't forget a thing, well they could learn a lot from women.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Apr 29 2012, 09:37 AM) *
Hey man, I've got to pick my battles. Life has taught me a thing or two...

They say that elephants don't forget a thing, well they could learn a lot from women.



LOL!!!!!
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 28 2012, 11:24 PM) *
I believe if Cloud runs through Pascal, then we will see him in the ring with Bernard. I believe Chad is looking for a Pascal rematch, regardless of what he said in the post-fight interview.

I would like to see Hopkins fight Cleverly, but we have to see what Cleverly does in the near future. As for Chad, he has the winning hand, so he can fight whoever...unless "whoever" can give two shits about a title belt.



As he should. ANYTIME you lose to someone you say isn't better than you, you avenge that loss.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Apr 29 2012, 10:37 AM) *
Hey man, I've got to pick my battles. Life has taught me a thing or two...

They say that elephants don't forget a thing, well they could learn a lot from women.

LOL!!! Yep...

After waking up and watching the last few rounds of this fight, Im still a bit amazed and disappointed. Im still amazed that Hopkins is able to convincingly compete at this age at this level, amazing. Im a bit disappointed with Chad, because he's the only guy with enough skill to nearly run through Hops, but he either didn't or couldn't pull it off.

The fact that this old man was hit with a lot of those shots and walked away with nearly a scratch on him, is something to take into consideration. It's hard for anybody to look good against Bernard (as Kellerman mentioned), and the last person I remember pulling that off, would be RJJ in '93.

As for Dawson, Im glad that he got over the hump last night. He's fought his share of old guys in his career, but this win actually counted for something. He didn't look so great in a few parts of the fight, but if you consider who he fought, he truly gets a pass. His post-fight interview gave me a whole new respect for him though, unlike his butt-hurt rant after the first fight.

It looks as if no one else will give Dawson this type of trouble, or ugly fights, at LHW, so he's off the reach the top...I can live with that. He's sure to beat guys like Pascal (hopefully), Cloud, and a few others at this point. Im not sure how marketable he his, but if he runs through these guys and make his highlight reels look good, then he may be able to huge impact.
fightscoreollector
cheers for the scores , i will add them to my blog later on today

i had the fight 117-112 dawson
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